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post #871 of 2130
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

Thanks, I'm glad the settings are helping some but I'm doing it for selfish reasons.smile.gif I checked a few week ago and I now have over 1500 hours on my set and I'm ready to jump in the calibration hole again. I want to try some of the settings that you suggested, Warm 1 and 2.2 gamma, and see how they look. I think I'm ready to try 3D while I'm doing it as I have watched a few 3D movies and I'm pretty disappointed in the factory settings. I will keep y'all posted on my progress and of course I'm open to suggestions.

Yes 3D (stereo) default setting are not that good for most of the 3D movies imo. I have been playing with temp settings and Gamma for 3D (stereo), I still can't rule out better settings for 3D but so far I like using temp setting of natural and Gamma of 2.4. Plus Steve at LS got me going on meter placement and screen size, anyway I like setting my C6 about 8" off screen and when I profile my C6 with my I1pro 2 I have the I1pro about 12" off screen and the C6 about 8" off screen.

I use Warm 1 and Gamma of 2.21 for any 2D BT709 calibrations.
Keep in mind that I use CME 5 and the 3D LUT Cube workflow along with 21 point grayscale with my Mini 3D. For me it has become pointless to do a normal calibration for my VT50, and its not because I have a problem doing a manual normal ISF calibration, but because the results from a LUT Cube calibration is just that much better. imo you just can't beat the 125 point CMS by using the normal 6 point CMS when calibrating.

btw, I have now gone pretty much with using the 96 setting in are VT50's when viewing a HQ 2D Blu Ray with the above calibration using 60. I have to run a calibration with the 96 setting and see if there is a difference..

ss
post #872 of 2130
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes 3D (stereo) default setting are not that good for most of the 3D movies imo. I have been playing with temp settings and Gamma for 3D (stereo), I still can't rule out better settings for 3D but so far I like using temp setting of natural and Gamma of 2.4. Plus Steve at LS got me going on meter placement and screen size, anyway I like setting my C6 about 8" off screen and when I profile my C6 with my I1pro 2 I have the I1pro about 12" off screen and the C6 about 8" off screen.

I use Warm 1 and Gamma of 2.21 for any 2D BT709 calibrations.
Keep in mind that I use CME 5 and the 3D LUT Cube workflow along with 21 point grayscale with my Mini 3D. For me it has become pointless to do a normal calibration for my VT50, and its not because I have a problem doing a manual normal ISF calibration, but because the results from a LUT Cube calibration is just that much better. imo you just can't beat the 125 point CMS by using the normal 6 point CMS when calibrating.

btw, I have now gone pretty much with using the 96 setting in are VT50's when viewing a HQ 2D Blu Ray with the above calibration using 60. I have to run a calibration with the 96 setting and see if there is a difference..

ss

I'm not clear about the 96 vs 60 settings. Are you saying you calibrate with 96 and watch @ 60?
post #873 of 2130
When I originally purchased this set last summer I did not have much interest in 3D, so I did not have a separate ISF 3D calibration done at the time. Instead, Robert copied the ISF Day/Night settings he created over into ISF 3D slots for future use.

Now I'm starting to play around with the set -- bowl games in 3D perked-up my interest -- and I have been using the copied ISF Day setting. To me it looks as good as my normal ISF Night 2D viewing.

For those who have gone thru the process to create a separate 3D calibration, did you find it makes much of a difference?

jdg
post #874 of 2130
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I'm not clear about the 96 vs 60 settings. Are you saying you calibrate with 96 and watch @ 60?

I calibrate at 60Hz (thinking about calibrating at 96Hz) and view at 96Hz, but only for HQ 2D Blu Ray movies. Also when I view I set my Oppo to source direct.
I use my Mini as the pattern source for calibration.
Tonight I think I am going to watch Avatar 3D, and see what if any adjustments I have to make to my 3D (stereo) calibration.

ss
post #875 of 2130
Today I had the pleasure of a return visit from Jeff Meier (UMR) to calibrate my newest display, a 65VT50 delivered on 12/13/2012. The panel has about 240 hours on it. As with my previous calibration on my Samsung LED, Jeff was once again very punctual and extremely professional. As Jeff went about his methodical process, he was very conversational, letting me know the hows and whys of what he was doing (some of which I understand, much of which is beyond my "absorption rate"). In about 3 hours, Jeff had calibrated ISF Night, ISF Day, and ISF Day 3D for two HDMI inputs.

My starting point were some calibration files that I got here on the forum and uploaded via ControlCal. Jeff quickly noticed that for my panel those settings were producing a significant color saturation. He spent quite a bit of the morning getting the CMS back in line and from there all I can say is my display is looking as good as any calibrated display I've had the pleasure of auditioning. More accurate color, beautiful "inky" blacks, smooth motion and panning on all source material tested, and so on.

I'm sure Jeff could have been done even quicker but half the fun of having him stop by is the conversations we have about home theater, movies, and to a great extent, sports. I can only fault Jeff in one area, and that is his misguided loyalty to the St. Louis Cardinals! Of course, that is coming from a lifelong SF Giants fan, so take it with a grain of salt.

If anyone is considering a calibration, Jeff Meier should be on your list of candidates. He will do a great job for you and has very deep domain experience beyond home theater extending to the motion picture industry itself.
post #876 of 2130
I just futzed around with controlcal for my first time. Robnix, I just tried your day settings and I must say they look great to me! Wmwilkers are in the isfnight slot and those look great too!

My eyes are starting to appreciate the fine differences. I honestly thought after the THX modes I wasn't going to see anything much more. Guess its all reative since the THX modes just blew away the LED I owned briefly, didn't think it could get much better.
post #877 of 2130
Hi guys - have an interesting issue. I got my VT50 calibrated and now have ISF Day and Night modes. However, now my DIrecTV receiver thinks my VT is NOT 3D capable and will not display any 3D channels. If I reset the TV I can see the DIrecTV channels.

Anyone else have this issue or have ideas how to resolve?
post #878 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I just futzed around with controlcal for my first time. Robnix, I just tried your day settings and I must say they look great to me! Wmwilkers are in the isfnight slot and those look great too!

My eyes are starting to appreciate the fine differences. I honestly thought after the THX modes I wasn't going to see anything much more. Guess its all reative since the THX modes just blew away the LED I owned briefly, didn't think it could get much better.

Thanks! I'm glad this thread is helping people. :-)
post #879 of 2130
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Thanks! I'm glad this thread is helping people. :-)

While the posted user settings from robnix and others are hit or miss with each of our panels, they all seem to improve upon the available out of the box modes. I tried both robnix and wmwilker's before my professional calibration and they both looked really good. Nothing beats calibrating your own panel though!
post #880 of 2130
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Thanks! I'm glad this thread is helping people. :-)

More than helpful. You must have a way with the women because my wife likes yours the best on a side by side comparison of our modes. Thanks!
post #881 of 2130
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

While the posted user settings from robnix and others are hit or miss with each of our panels, they all seem to improve upon the available out of the box modes. I tried both robnix and wmwilker's before my professional calibration and they both looked really good. Nothing beats calibrating your own panel though!

I'd like to say that I'm just an amateur at this. Am I happy with my settings? Yes, but I see room for improvement that I'm sure a professional could handle for me. They have the technique and experience that I just don't have. One of these days when I can budget the cost I'm going to have our local guy come out and show me the ropes.

I've had a lot of fun throughout the process though, (and a bit of frustration), and I've learned a bit about a wide variety of things from how TV's display color to how films are mastered and color timed for home release. So it's been worth it.
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

More than helpful. You must have a way with the women because my wife likes yours the best on a side by side comparison of our modes. Thanks!

I'm in the firm camp of WAF is the most important criteria of all. biggrin.gif
Edited by robnix - 1/12/13 at 9:26am
post #882 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

More than helpful. You must have a way with the women because my wife likes yours the best on a side by side comparison of our modes. Thanks!

Yeah, women have an eye for detail and my wife was satisfied with robnix settings. Lots of good settings that's been posted.
post #883 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Bigjoemeat View Post

Is it just me? or when watching a movie or tv show at night. I'll be staring at the screen and move my eyes quick to look at a different part of the screen and I'll experience like a rainbow flash effect. Its not a screen flaw but are my eyes playing a game with me cause it's a plasma screen? Anyway to stop it? It's annoying lol

You may want to keep watching for a while. This is my first plasma and it bothered me at first. Now my eyes seem to have adjusted and I rarely see it any more.
post #884 of 2130
I've just had an odd experience. Watching tv and all of a sudden a green screen comes up and a loud piercing beep noise and then it freezes and eventually stops and says 'error detected and recovered'.

Anyone know what this is? Could this be because I just added the ISFxxx slots last night?
post #885 of 2130
Well it's not happened again and I can't find anything on it. Don't think it's an issued ; it did recover after all.
post #886 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I've just had an odd experience. Watching tv and all of a sudden a green screen comes up and a loud piercing beep noise and then it freezes and eventually stops and says 'error detected and recovered'.

Anyone know what this is? Could this be because I just added the ISFxxx slots last night?

I'd be really surprised if adding ISF modes caused it, but you never know. As long as it was a one time thing you should be fine!
post #887 of 2130
I'm taking it as a good sign that its rare. smile.gif
post #888 of 2130
Another observation here. When I have aspect set to full and hd size to 2 (100%) I get pixel orbiter option grayed out as I would expect. I just discovered if I set the tv to one of my isf modes I can have the screen set to full and size 2 but have the ability to enable the pixel orbiter.

Does this make sense or is it a glitch?
post #889 of 2130
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

You can put them in custom mode manually. I highly recommend ControlCal though, it's a small investment for an incredible amount of convenience.
I would like to try inputting them manually, but how? It's just a bunch of numbers, no way of knowing what number is for what setting.
post #890 of 2130
It should be straight forward, I do label the 10pts 'Stimuli' (Stimulus) in ControlCAL vs Pansaonic using 'IRE'. (30% Stimuli = 30 IRE)..

PM if you want as well.
post #891 of 2130
Not sure what settings you are referring to that are labeled. The ones I've clicked on here open as nothing but numbers (84 55 0 0 0 50 etc.). If you have a link to some settings that are labeled I would love to try them.

Edit: OK I see it now that I'm using TextWrangler. Thanks turbe!
Edited by mnc - 1/14/13 at 6:03pm
post #892 of 2130
My reds are a bit too pink. Darker crimson looks right, but red looks like it's slightly magenta. I'm using Topper McFly's settings from post 191 of this thread.

Using the Custom picture mode, what setting can I change to make the reds more true without affecting the rest of the color balance (assuming that's possible)? I'm making the adjustments with the TV remote, not ControlCal. Thanks!
post #893 of 2130
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Originally Posted by johnnylighton View Post

My reds are a bit too pink. Darker crimson looks right, but red looks like it's slightly magenta. I'm using Topper McFly's settings from post 191 of this thread.

Using the Custom picture mode, what setting can I change to make the reds more true without affecting the rest of the color balance (assuming that's possible)? I'm making the adjustments with the TV remote, not ControlCal. Thanks!

If this link is what those settings of Toppers reports are then I would suggest trying some other settings. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1408338/official-panasonic-vt50-owners-thread/9240#post_22830224
The CIE (CMS) chart shows yellow way off and moved closer to Red, so this will cause red to be on the pinkish side. The problem is if you start correcting yellow it will shift some of the other P/S points and have other problems. If I just ran a calibration and got that report I would just start over.

That said, if you want you could try setting color temp to normal. Also you could try lowering yellow hue..

ss
Edited by sillysally - 1/15/13 at 6:04am
post #894 of 2130
Thanks, sillysally. I think I will get ControlCal to make it easier to try other settings.

I also have a free calibration available from Best Buy, but am scared to do it in case the calibrator makes changes in the service menu that I can't undo (or won't know about). Should I should go for it and ask him or her to not change the service menu?
post #895 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Not sure what settings you are referring to that are labeled. The ones I've clicked on here open as nothing but numbers (84 55 0 0 0 50 etc.). If you have a link to some settings that are labeled I would love to try them.

Edit: OK I see it now that I'm using TextWrangler. Thanks turbe!
Hey if you can post those labeled settings so i can check em out too. Thanks.
post #896 of 2130
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Originally Posted by johnnylighton View Post

Thanks, sillysally. I think I will get ControlCal to make it easier to try other settings.

I also have a free calibration available from Best Buy, but am scared to do it in case the calibrator makes changes in the service menu that I can't undo (or won't know about). Should I should go for it and ask him or her to not change the service menu?

Just make it very clear you do not want BB calibrator to use the service menu, and you should be fine.

Calman is a real Calibration software and there for not Cheap. If you want to get into the calibration hobby then yes I would say yes get Calman 5 (at-least) Control and a I1 Display pro. If you just want to input Calman's settings and open ISF modes then just get the cheapest Calman.
However many of the calibration settings that are posted by DIY's are done using Controlcal, and if that's the case you can use Controlcal to open and input these ISF settings.
I don't use Controlcal to input my settings so Controlcal will not work for my setting. Controlcal is a tool to open ISF modes on a VT50 and input settings, its not a calibration program like Calman.

ss
post #897 of 2130
I applied wmwalker's custom settins to my 65VT50 and the blue ray picture is GREAT. The cable source is run through a Marantz AVR 5007 via HDMI. The other day I was watching a play-off game in HD and while generally speaking the picture looked great. HOWEVER, there were times that I noticed what appear to be (for lack of a better description) artifacts in the center of the screen at times and seemed to depend on the movement. I am not sure if this is a result of the source or if this is a common issue w/the VT50.

Any insights?
post #898 of 2130
Most likely source and due to the compression used (and/or signal interruptions at the time).. was this Sat, Cable or OTA and what specific receiver.. could have been during the broadcast.. I see it myself at times with direcTv

Not sure if you have seen an concert or other even in an arena with a lot of flashes going off and very bright lights while the camera is moving...
Edited by turbe - 1/15/13 at 11:03am
post #899 of 2130
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

Most likely source and due to the compression used (and/or signal interruptions at the time).. was this Sat, Cable or OTA and what specific receiver.. could have been during the broadcast.. I see it myself at times with direcTv

That's what I was thinking. Source is Verizon FIOS cable. The AVR is a Marantz SR5007. Next time I need to run upstairs to see if I can see the same thing on my Elite.
post #900 of 2130
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Originally Posted by cssnms View Post

That's what I was thinking. Source is Verizon FIOS cable. The AVR is a Marantz SR5007. Next time I need to run upstairs to see if I can see the same thing on my Elite.

Generally fios is better.. could have been in the broadcast path before it even hits Verizon.
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