Darbee Darblet - Page 3

Originally Posted by millerwill 

Similar to Audioguy, I'm using one with a Sony1000 and Lumagen, with it typicially set at 40.   I like the result.

Originally Posted by adidino 


I have the Sony1000 as well. You using in addition to Reality Creation?

Originally Posted by millerwill 


Yes.   The 1000 with RC is of course already outstanding.    The way I would describe the DD's enhancement is an increase in intra-scene contrast.   Using sparingly, I do think it makes a positive contribution.

PS   Another way to describe my impression is that the DD makes the pic contrastier.    E.g., in looking at a tree, the DD darkens the dark areas and lightens the bright ones.    Too much, though, can look very artificial; e.g., on a close up of a male face with (fashionable) stubble, too much DD can make the dark hairs jump out, and the facial moisture too bright, so that it does become cartoonish.   But in the range 30 to 40, I find it nice.

Originally Posted by adidino 


Thanks. What levels are you setting RC in conjustion with the DD?

Originally Posted by adidino 


Thanks. What levels are you setting RC in conjunction with the DD?

Originally Posted by Citation4444 

I have a Darblet and am using it "judiciously" with my Sim2 HT5000. I use it for all DirecTV material and I like the look at about 50 to 60 depending on program material. Higher if the program is particularly soft. On Blu-Ray's I either don't use it or set it no higher than about 40 on softer material. I can see artifacts on the Spears & Munsil DVD above 30, but only on the test patterns, never on program material. I consider it a great value if I control myself in its use.

Originally Posted by DarbeeDr 


We would sure be interested to know which S & M test pattern(s), the Darblet processing Mode(s) and the Setting(s) for which you are seeing artifacts. You don't need to include the Full Pop Mode results as artifacts in that Mode are to be expected.

-DD

Originally Posted by Citation4444 

Using the green HD mode at any level above about 40 gives artifacts in both the Luma Zone Plate pattern and the Chroma Zone Plate pattern. It shows up slightly at 40 and gets progressively worse at higher levels. It shows up in the background of the patterns like pools of spilled paint. I don't know how serious this is, or if it is serious at all, as I haven't noticed these artifacts in any program material.
I also get artifacts in the text of the HDNET test pattern that I recorded some time ago on DirecTV. This artifact presents itself at about 50% in the green HD mode. It shows up with the black text on a gray background. The artifact is a lightening of the space between letters. As the Darbee percentage is increased the space between letters changes brightness and gets brighter until at 100% the spaces are virtually white. It's like going from 30% to 100% on a grayscale, and only between letters. I wouldn't describe it as a halo effect, and it's not too distracting at all, but it is present.
The S&M artifacts have been reported by others, most notably by Mark_H, IIRC.
Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Mark_H 

Here you go... ignore the moiring as it's exacerbated by the shrinking of the image, but look at the big vertical "pools" in the image - they aren't present when the Darblet processing is turned off. Here, at 120% they are clearly visible. At my preferred setting of 35% they don't really show up much.
And as above, such issues aren't obvious when viewing films etc, but this clearly shows that the Darblet is impacting upon the image, which is of course no surprise given that we know the Darblet changes the image.

The problem artefact for me is the trailing/ghosting I reported on text in Chronicles of Riddick, but again, as low levels you don't see it, only when the percentage is pushed high.

Originally Posted by Mark_H 

Here you go... ignore the moiring as it's exacerbated by the shrinking of the image, but look at the big vertical "pools" in the image - they aren't present when the Darblet processing is turned off. Here, at 120% they are clearly visible. At my preferred setting of 35% they don't really show up much.
And as above, such issues aren't obvious when viewing films etc, but this clearly shows that the Darblet is impacting upon the image, which is of course no surprise given that we know the Darblet changes the image.

The problem artefact for me is the trailing/ghosting I reported on text in Chronicles of Riddick, but again, as low levels you don't see it, only when the percentage is pushed high.

Originally Posted by cinema mad 

Those circles "moiring" are due to the image being compressed for posting,
Its the Color pools/blobs that Mark is pointing out..

Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky 

I've hooked up the Darbee between my Lumagen Radiance XE and my Sim2 C3X 1080 3chip DLP - 2D only - projector.
I've been using the Darbee on both DirecTV and now my Theta Digital Compl Blu blu ray player
(modded by Theta Oppo BDP-83). I finc that I prefer the "Hi Def" setting at 35. Higher than 35 appears to start getting too sharp. Also, my pre-Darbee settings on the Sim2 projector are 24 for noise reduction and 6 for sharpness. With the Darbee, I have found that reducing the sharpness to zero, but leaving the same noise reduction setting as before, gives me clearly the best picture, again on both DirecTV and blu ray.
Tonight we watched the recently released blu ray of the Ghost Rider sequel. WOW1 Talk about a great movie for contrast. Black scenes with the Ghost Rirder's fire!!@@ More real life definition, people look more "3D" and black seems blacker with white seeming whiter!!
I am starting to get impressed!

Originally Posted by Waboman 

Can't wait to get mine. Hopefully by this Monday I'll be Darbletized.

Originally Posted by Franin 

Looking forward reading your reviews wabo.

Originally Posted by Waboman 

Guess what showed up today? That's right, my Darbee. After the kids go to bed, I have a date with a Darblet.