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post #1321 of 1851
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

You might take a look at "Defiance" ..

I stayed with V most likely because of Morena Baccarin ..

I had the opportunity to meet her a while back and she is perhaps one of the Worlds most perfect women .. smile.gif


My favorite space whore.
post #1322 of 1851
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Originally Posted by cctvtech View Post

I guess modern, computer-controlled diesel engines would obviously have the same problem as gasoline (no electricity), but older ones should still run.
Less so than FI systems that rely on the computer to precisely control fuel flow through the jets.

But, yes, something from a couple decades ago would be easier to run without the benefit of a working computer.

Obviously, if a complete lack of spark weren't an issue, a carbureted gas motor could run without all the gismos. Just about any motorcycle from the 90's and earlier would be fine if spark were possible (i.e. - an EMP caused the electronics to be destroyed).
post #1323 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

No. They have glow plugs, but what makes diesel engins fire is compression, not a spark from a plug. The only thing you need for a diesel engine to run is to turn the engine over somehow to fire the first stroke. After that, it should sustain itself.

Thanks for that... I've never been a car guy, so I only know the things that I have picked up along the way... and never having owned or operated a diesel engine vehicle, it never came up as something I needed to learn.

So, that said, I'll join the camp wondering where the diesel engines are too.
post #1324 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

You must not be watching the same show as the rest of us, because they have not been using their swords (or muskets) at all in the past 8 or so episodes. It has been non-stop machine gun, automatic weapons, and wasted bullets.

Shoot, this past week Jason shot a guy in the back 4 times, just to make sure he was dead. He could have easily run up and knifed the guy, or at least shot him once before finishing him off with a sword. But nope, spray and pray.

I disagree, sure they have been doing some more as the war ramps up, but it hasn't been 8 episodes, not even close, isn't that pretty much half of the entire series? A few with a few more bullets, sure, but they also declared a war so that makes sense.
post #1325 of 1851
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I disagree, sure they have been doing some more as the war ramps up, but it hasn't been 8 episodes, not even close, isn't that pretty much half of the entire series? A few with a few more bullets, sure, but they also declared a war so that makes sense.
Yes, 8 episodes is indeed half the series. There have been 18 episodes, and 8 episodes have aired since the break.

And since when does WAR = time to waste bullets?

It is undeniable that there are more bullets fired per episode in each of the last 8 episodes than were fired in the entirety of the first ten episodes of the fall season.

Just re-watch the pilot... Miles kills an entire garrison of Monroe soldiers with a sword while they were standing around reloading their muskets. Now everyone has a handgun.
post #1326 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Yes, 8 episodes is indeed half the series. There have been 18 episodes, and 8 episodes have aired since the break.

And since when does WAR = time to waste bullets?

It is undeniable that there are more bullets fired per episode in each of the last 8 episodes than were fired in the entirety of the first ten episodes of the fall season.

Just re-watch the pilot... Miles kills an entire garrison of Monroe soldiers with a sword while they were standing around reloading their muskets. Now everyone has a handgun.

I'm waiting to hear this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yjfijkx984
post #1327 of 1851
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

They have addressed this in the show. They talked about it. That is why they use swords so much, they said they have to save their ammo, its not like people are making more. And that is why they used the muskets, they are easier to get lead balls for ammo. Very low usage of automatic weapons, over the 15 years it has been swords and muskets.

Why can't they be making more? People re-load ammo all the time....they're just not showing you the people scavenging shell casings after a battle and melting down lead to re-load them.
post #1328 of 1851
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

Why can't they be making more? People re-load ammo all the time....they're just not showing you the people scavenging shell casings after a battle and melting down lead to re-load them.

But do they have the industry and availability of chemicals to make smokeless powder and primers. People buy the components and assemble the reload, they don't do it from scratch. Black powder is cruder and much easier to make, but that frankly supports going back to muskets (and leads to weapons with MUCH lower muzzle velocity, so you need a larger-bore weapon and ball). Monroe's republic seems VERY primitive in terms of any redeveloped industry. Georgia seems further along and we probably don't know ALL the details of what it has redeveloped.

Certainly we have gone from muskets, swords, and conserving ammo in opening episodes to wild use of full-auto weapons without explanation
post #1329 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Yes, 8 episodes is indeed half the series. There have been 18 episodes, and 8 episodes have aired since the break.

And since when does WAR = time to waste bullets?

When you want to make sure you win and want to end it fast. (I assume you mean using them not firing 4 shots into someone)
post #1330 of 1851
Honestly, I'm not sure why we haven't seen more usage of fused pipe bombs and molotov cocktails, since those can use ordinary ingredients, are quick to buld and improvise and will take out far more of your enemy in one shot.
post #1331 of 1851
Judging from previews, we are going to see the denizens of this reality have access to fragmentation grenades, although none have been shown before. This entire mythology on Revolution is an escalating weapons race.
post #1332 of 1851
Since we were led to believe Monroe had a nuke, I don't think any weaponry should be a surprise ..
post #1333 of 1851
I'm holding out for the previously outlawed Disintergrater pistols. wink.gif
post #1334 of 1851
You would think the new guns would be smaller. Not bigger.
I want a coil gun now smile.gif
post #1335 of 1851
Did they get the gun idea from Arnold's Eraser Movie??? Pretty violent episode..
post #1336 of 1851
So either the nanites would explode if de-activated or uncontrollable lightning storms will torch the Earth?
post #1337 of 1851
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

Did they get the gun idea from Arnold's Eraser Movie??? Pretty violent episode..

The whole show has been pretty violent since it returned from its hiatus. It will be interesting to see how they handle it with the show moving to 8:00 next season.
post #1338 of 1851
I guess they remove the partial nudity and that's it TV 14 with only "V" and maybe some "L"
post #1339 of 1851
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I guess they remove the partial nudity and that's it TV 14 with only "V" and maybe some "L"
Don't you know?

Violence is OK.

You just can't use naughty words or show parts that we hide with underwear. In other words, stuff every kid might encounter at home in a full household is off limits. Stuff most of them will never encounter (like murder) is OK to pump at them every minute of the day.

It's even better if we see a bad guy get shot with no recourse or show of them suffering as they die to show how terrible shooting someone really is - or perhaps we show every good guy being up and around after minor patching following being shot themselves. After all, every shooting is just a flesh wound...which you can show, as long as it's not in the nuts...
Edited by NetworkTV - 5/28/13 at 6:39pm
post #1340 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

The whole show has been pretty violent since it returned from its hiatus. It will be interesting to see how they handle it with the show moving to 8:00 next season.

They'll replace all of the guns with walkie talkies....
post #1341 of 1851
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

So either the nanites would explode if de-activated or uncontrollable lightning storms will torch the Earth?

I'm betting on the latter.
post #1342 of 1851
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

I'm betting on the latter.

Do you guys remember the scene where Rachel & Aaron went to visit someones house on the way to the tower?

The men who stopped them in the forest were burned alive. I am assuming that is what they were referring to.
post #1343 of 1851
We don't know if the device the woman burned them with microwaves or she used the device to control the nanites from the environment to burn them, do we?
post #1344 of 1851
I'm beginning to think they make this show up as they go along.

A few weeks back, the woman that gave them the "bible" on the Tower... her concern was her companion (wife?) who would die of cancer if the power was turned back on... not even a hint of the world might go up in flames... seems like that would have been more immediate than her partner's cancer kicking in again.

So... it seems like they just make up a new plot every couple of weeks.
post #1345 of 1851
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

I'm beginning to think they make this show up as they go along.

A few weeks back, the woman that gave them the "bible" on the Tower... her concern was her companion (wife?) who would die of cancer if the power was turned back on... not even a hint of the world might go up in flames... seems like that would have been more immediate than her partner's cancer kicking in again.

So... it seems like they just make up a new plot every couple of weeks.

No, they said that was 1 in a million chance. There are probably hundreds of things that COULD happen but they discounted them.
post #1346 of 1851
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

No, they said that was 1 in a million chance. There are probably hundreds of things that COULD happen but they discounted them.

Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.

Dr. Peter Venkman: What?

Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?

Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.

Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?

Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
post #1347 of 1851
Spengler and Dr. Peter Venkman are genius's compared to the people on this show!

Rachel has to be one of- if not the biggest- tool in TV history. Every time there's something Monroe shouldn't know about, have in his possession or control... she leads him directly to it and serves it up on a silver platter!

Rachel = tool!
post #1348 of 1851
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

Rachel has to be one of- if not the biggest- tool in TV history. Every time there's something Monroe shouldn't know about, have in his possession or control... she leads him directly to it and serves it up on a silver platter!

Rachel = tool!

Elizabeth Mitchell is quickly being added to my list of "avoid this television show if it casts Elizabeth Mitchell in a prominent role". I don't know if it's the actress or the writers, but just like her character on LOST, she has a knack for not answering direct questions, and her characters in general are terrible terrible people.
post #1349 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Elizabeth Mitchell is quickly being added to my list of "avoid this television show if it casts Elizabeth Mitchell in a prominent role". I don't know if it's the actress or the writers, but just like her character on LOST, she has a knack for not answering direct questions, and her characters in general are terrible terrible people.

OTOH....she has a nice rack. wink.gif
post #1350 of 1851
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

OTOH....she has a nice rack. wink.gif
So do others... who can actually act- not just gape with an open mouth and blank stare....
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