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post #691 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Iceboxes were common before the refrigerator was invented. They do not require electricity to operate. There is nothing fancy about them.
I made that point earlier. It just would be cool to see one running using a steam engine and a big tank of ether... wink.gif

The one in "Back to the Future 3" was awesome (producing only one cube for all the trouble) in a majorly "Rube Goldberg" way...
post #692 of 1851
There's you're bicycles, dude! Only took 5 episodes, but there was a whole rack of them. Although, I surmise that wont be enough to appease your distaste.

The only thing that bugged me was that the train kept blowing its whistle... there would be no reason to. Its not like other trains were on the track, or that cars or something would be at the crossings (or that they'd care if there were).

It was obvious that the Nate kid was really Neville's son. Still don't know where his loyalties lie, though.

12 pendants, like the 12 Cylons. He-yo!
post #693 of 1851
Some real blunders in the episode. I thought the same thing about the train whistle.

Danny was not handcuffed or tied down on the train, easy for him to attack. When he did attack, where were the guards and the son when they came to help? They just appeared. Aside from that car, there was only a box car and a caboose.

The train was left unguarded, easy for someone to plant a bomb.

When the son had been captured, you just knew he was going to escape when they let him out of the cage.
post #694 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

There's you're bicycles, dude! Only took 5 episodes, but there was a whole rack of them. Although, I surmise that wont be enough to appease your distaste.
The only thing that bugged me was that the train kept blowing its whistle... there would be no reason to. Its not like other trains were on the track, or that cars or something would be at the crossings (or that they'd care if there were).
It was obvious that the Nate kid was really Neville's son. Still don't know where his loyalties lie, though.
12 pendants, like the 12 Cylons. He-yo!
We should have seen bicycles in Chicago. Even just a few would have been fine. The complete lack of them in the big city is a glaring omission compared to a rack full in...the armpit of nowhere.

The whistle bugged me, too. Why would you blow the whistle a dozen times or more to let everyone know the train is in town when you know the rebels might want to destroy or take it?

The "log bomb" was silly. Let's make a bomb in the shape of a log with an end cap that is completely a different color wood. That's not suspicious at all, especially since all the rest of the wood was quartered. It felt like a Scooby Doo cartoon where you can tell which drawer or cabinet will be opened by the color difference.

Plus, all the worry about it blowing up and it didn't even break a window blowing up next to the train. It's likely it would have caused only minor damage to the locomotive - worst case, it would have killed the engineer and caused permanent boiler damage that would have also halted the train (so the good guys could catch up). There's no way that the brother and Neville would have sustained more than minor injuries, even if the train derailed. They were going slow enough for horses to catch up to. Totally worth the risk.

Had it been a big barrel of nitrate they loaded into a box car, that would be something different. Of course, I'm sure we didn't have the budget, so we had to contrive a means to disable the bomb.

Of course, several once again turned their backs on someone they failed to secure properly. Why doesn't anyone secure anyone's legs when their being held as a prisoner and not needing to walk? Tie their shoelaces together or something.

Of course, it also seems the typical TV and movie trope where the heroes always seem to have access to a saddled horse in a matter of moments was used.

Finally, how is it the guy in Philly is getting updates on the progress of the brother arriving? How did he even find out about the father getting killed and the brother being taken captive so soon? How did he know he was being loaded onto the train? Smoke signals? He doesn't have electricity, so he's not getting messages via instant message.

If they're using a message runner, maybe they ought to send the brother with him. They'd be there by now instead of taking days and who knows how many episodes.
post #695 of 1851
I agree on the train whistle, a few times would ahve been enough to clear the tracks....Considering that many people may have forgotten about trains or anyone whos younger not know what trains are could be the reason (Im just throwing TV logic)

Im just hoping that the daughter\neice stops crying at least once an episode, one of my biggest gripes on the show is that she is always crying over something........
post #696 of 1851
If Charlie had been in Hunger Games, she would have stepped off early and blown up. eek.gif

Was glad to see that they hadn't used a chainsaw to cut the firewood. smile.gif
post #697 of 1851
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Finally, how is it the guy in Philly is getting updates on the progress of the brother arriving? How did he even find out about the father getting killed and the brother being taken captive so soon? How did he know he was being loaded onto the train? Smoke signals? He doesn't have electricity, so he's not getting messages via instant message.

If they're using a message runner, maybe they ought to send the brother with him. They'd be there by now instead of taking days and who knows how many episodes.

I've been thinking the same thing. News still travels fast in an era with no electricity.
post #698 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

I've been thinking the same thing. News still travels fast in an era with no electricity.

I think they must be using the latest and greatest string phones wink.gif ......
post #699 of 1851
Ratings really jumped for this week. Not sure why but a 13% gain in week 4 or 5 from what now days are already solid numbers is a very good sign for the network. A few more weeks like that and a second season pickup will be likely.
post #700 of 1851
At this point in the game if you get an opportunity to kill a bad guy, especially a head bad guy, you TAKE IT!!!

Neville must have 9 lives... well at least 4 by my count!


"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb!"
post #701 of 1851
Now that I've had some time to think about it, why didn't the rebel folks just ride a couple miles up the tracks and pull some spikes and loosen some connecting bolts? If they do it right, it will allow the rails to flex enough to derail the train. The truing wrench would likely be right in the depot storage area.

The guys checking the line would likely not notice since they'd be looking for debris and obvious damage due to the tight deadline.

Heck, for that matter, the could have rigged up a crude frog to make the engine jump the tracks or roll one of the many dead cars out onto the line just around a curve so there isn't time to stop. You could load that sucker up with all the explosives you want.
post #702 of 1851
I was a little surprised when Jeff Fahey stabbed that chick. I mean really, the odds of anyone getting that bomb off the train at that point was slim. He could of just said "good luck with that!" and let her try.
Also, if it's so easy to steal horses, why didn't they do that a long time ago?

Loved the scene where they show the new map of the USA and Texas is still called Texas.....just bigger now biggrin.gif
post #703 of 1851

The preposterous story scenarios (already amply pointed out above) and the totally unsympathetic lead character of Charlie have pretty much finished this one off for me.  As usual with NBC's 'big' new series (The Event, for example) and the over-hyped promos that make it look serious and intriguing, they quickly turn out to be cartoons of the premise.  Why they take on such huge, world changing stories and then show that they obviously don't have the budget or creative talent to pull it off is beyond me.  I won't be back to complain about it (I know how that annoys those who continue to like it) even if I watch another episode or 2, but this one had me hopeful with anticipation and left me completely disinterested.

post #704 of 1851
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I was a little surprised when Jeff Fahey stabbed that chick. I mean really, the odds of anyone getting that bomb off the train at that point was slim. He could of just said "good luck with that!" and let her try.
Also, if it's so easy to steal horses, why didn't they do that a long time ago?
It was silly of him to stab her when rebel warriors aren't exactly a dime a dozen - especially those with explosives skills. Granted, maybe he felt she would give him up if captured, but he should have just done what everyone else does in these situations on TV and in movies: knock her out with a blow to the head.
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Loved the scene where they show the new map of the USA and Texas is still called Texas.....just bigger now biggrin.gif
With the lack of electricity, sewage and garbage services and money, you'd think they would just call it "Mexico"...
post #705 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

It was silly of him to stab her when rebel warriors aren't exactly a dime a dozen - especially those with explosives skills. Granted, maybe he felt she would give him up if captured, but he should have just done what everyone else does in these situations on TV and in movies: knock her out with a blow to the head.

But that sets up the story for the next episode, otherwise we would get a episode of them just walking to Phily smile.gif
post #706 of 1851
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Originally Posted by Scott Sollars View Post

But that sets up the story for the next episode, otherwise we would get a episode of them just walking to Phily smile.gif
Of course, they would have had horses if they had taken nerd dude along with them on a third horse so he could round up the two others when Miles and Charlie lept off them...

But...if they wanted to kill her off and still make the guy look like a jerk, they could have had the train start rolling out due to him delaying her enough to allow time for it to leave. She takes off to stop things and he has a change of heart and follows.

On the train, she subdues the engineer. She tries to get the log out of the fire, but burns herself and can't do it. He arrives and manages to get the log out, but the militia guys have spotted them and are coming to get them.

Worried that she'll talk if captured, he says "I can't let you give me up", shoves the log into her arms and pushes her off the train. A few seconds later, he leaps off the other side, but not before shoving the throttle to full. At the side of the tracks, we see our revolutionary on the ground as she notices the log directly in front of her, her eyes going wide with fear.

The episode ends with the train hurtling down the tracks as the explosion occurs in the background and the militia guys struggle to climb toward the cab...
post #707 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

I've been thinking the same thing. News still travels fast in an era with no electricity.
I believe Monroe was in the field when he got the message. Remember the tent city? I don't recall if they said where the encampment was located.
post #708 of 1851
Those were some fast horses!

all the time passed when the train took off, somehow they sneaked and stole the horses then when fast to catch up the train quite fast...

OK super high speed horses, and they continue on foot towards Philly, instead of go looking for those horses..

I think 99% of the people that watched figured out that the guy was Neville's son as soon as they show him as a kid...

Nice to see Giancarlo dressed up as Gus, that time loser Gus.. LOL
post #709 of 1851
Funny how people knew about Neville's son, but only posted it after it was revealed wink.gif
post #710 of 1851
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Loved the scene where they show the new map of the USA and Texas is still called Texas.....just bigger now biggrin.gif
Makes total sense. Jives with what Jericho showed, too. Don't mess with Texas.

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Funny how people knew about Neville's son, but only posted it after it was revealed wink.gif
When I said I "knew", I meant I knew at the beginning of this episode. It'd be racist of me to think the kid was Neville's son in the pilot, just because his skin is dark. There were no other clues before this episode that had been revealed. But as soon as they showed Neville's son in the flashback, I knew it was Nate.
post #711 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Makes total sense. Jives with what Jericho showed, too. Don't mess with Texas.
When I said I "knew", I meant I knew at the beginning of this episode. It'd be racist of me to think the kid was Neville's son in the pilot, just because his skin is dark. There were no other clues before this episode that had been revealed. But as soon as they showed Neville's son in the flashback, I knew it was Nate.
Not to mention, without having seen Neville's wife, there would be no reason to assume he was Neville's son.
post #712 of 1851
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Makes total sense. Jives with what Jericho showed, too. Don't mess with Texas.
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Jericho was the first thing I thought of when I saw the map. And being from Texas, I agree it makes total sense.

As soon as they showed Neville's son as a little kid it was obvious. Good casting there.
post #713 of 1851
Does anyone know off the top of his head how the ratings for this show compare to 'Last Resort'? I'm enjoying the latter much more, but if there's only one that can "make it", I'm afraid this one is the one that's going to survive.
post #714 of 1851
Anyone who doubted that people would be dabbling in various forms of entertainment during a post-apocalyptic society only needs to look at the state of Philadelphia in the brief shots they showed.
post #715 of 1851
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Does anyone know off the top of his head how the ratings for this show compare to 'Last Resort'? I'm enjoying the latter much more, but if there's only one that can "make it", I'm afraid this one is the one that's going to survive.
Revolution is getting slightly higher overall numbers, but in the advertiser important 18-49 demographics, Revolution is double that of Last Resort. Last Resort may make it the season, but will definitely not be renewed for next year unless there is some sort of miraculous turnaround.
post #716 of 1851
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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

Revolution is getting slightly higher overall numbers, but in the advertiser important 18-49 demographics, Revolution is double that of Last Resort. Last Resort may make it the season, but will definitely not be renewed for next year unless there is some sort of miraculous turnaround.

Figures. rolleyes.gif Thanks.
post #717 of 1851
I see Last Resort do another "Missing" and they will classify it as "mini series", I mean how much they can remain in that island?

for Revolution they could maybe do 2 seasons, they find one of those pendants every 2 episodes they'll have material...

BTW only Esposito is saving it for me to stop watching it, if they ever kill that character I'm out..
post #718 of 1851
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I see Last Resort do another "Missing" and they will classify it as "mini series", I mean how much they can remain in that island?
for Revolution they could maybe do 2 seasons, they find one of those pendants every 2 episodes they'll have material...
BTW only Esposito is saving it for me to stop watching it, if they ever kill that character I'm out..

I'm hoping they're not going to keep this search for the brother plot line up all season. I'm starting to hear the name "Sophia" in my head...
post #719 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I'm hoping they're not going to keep this search for the brother plot line up all season.

I'll second that. It's time to get him back and move on to something more interesting and relevant to the show's mythology.
post #720 of 1851
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I'll second that. It's time to get him back and move on to something more interesting and relevant to the show's mythology.
Honestly, what should happen is:

Since they seem to have a way of keeping tabs on the militia progress bringing the borther in, they should send a message telling them to set a trap and let the rest of the people try to rescue him. After they capture them, search them for this pendent they were told about and bring that back instead of the brother.

Since it's TV, they'll have to lock the good guys up, giving them the chance to escape and try to get the pendent back.

Of course, they would also want to send a crew of militia to the homes of the good guys to see if the pendent was left there...just for the sake of being thorough. But, they probably already struck that set and sent all the extras home.
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