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post #841 of 1851
What a predictable episode last night (at least it was for me). The only part not predictable was the very last scene.
post #842 of 1851
Revolution is now in the "Imma let it stack up on the dvr" group of shows.
post #843 of 1851
Why did they need to walk 100 miles to Morgantown to cross at a bridge, when they very clearly were capable of just swimming across the rapids the next morning? The way they talked about it made that river seem like it was extremely wide with no narrow points. There's not even a major river anywhere near Morgantown, PA.

When I was in the Scouts, I crossed rivers just like that without needing a bridge.
post #844 of 1851
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Revolution is now in the "Imma let it stack up on the dvr" group of shows.

I had 6 episodes saved until I finally admitted I had no desire to watch them.
post #845 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

What a predictable episode last night (at least it was for me). The only part not predictable was the very last scene.

My favorite part was where they knew they were walking into an ambush - but kept walking that way anyway. Then their grand plan was to run away.

Why not sneak off in another direction and leave the guys doing the ambushing to wonder why it's taking so long for them to fall into their clever trap?

Raise you're hand if you saw the sister betrayal thing coming a mile away....
post #846 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

My favorite part was where they knew they were walking into an ambush - but kept walking that way anyway. Then their grand plan was to run away.
Why not sneak off in another direction and leave the guys doing the ambushing to wonder why it's taking so long for them to fall into their clever trap?
Raise you're hand if you saw the sister betrayal thing coming a mile away....
Could have seen that one from the ISS.
post #847 of 1851
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Why not sneak off in another direction and leave the guys doing the ambushing to wonder why it's taking so long for them to fall into their clever trap?

They were on the bridge. The only directions were forward, into the ambush, or back from where they came. Other directions meant jumping off the bridge.
post #848 of 1851
My favorite part was how Nora killed all of Strausser's men (except maybe one), yet did not kill Strausser himself (frankly, she should have killed him first). Then, with the opportunity to deal the death blow and retrieve the pendant, Miles instead hits him on the head with the butt of his gun and ignores the pendant. Finally, they decline the opportunity to collect all of the guns and ammunition from the dead militiamen.
post #849 of 1851

I haven't watched the last two episodes, but judging from the comments here, the show is slipping quickly into greater depths of stupidity and nonsense. I think I'm going to put it on an earlier hiatus than NBC planned.

post #850 of 1851
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

They were on the bridge. The only directions were forward, into the ambush, or back from where they came. Other directions meant jumping off the bridge.
..and they did both instead of just safely retreating.

Miles knew he was walking into an ambush the moment he stepped onto the bridge. Why continue forward with a group of people, half of which have no proper fighting experience? It would make more sense to bail and figure out a better plan to deal with the threat.

had Miles been thinking like the soldier he's supposed to be, he should have scouted the bridge alone to see what the situation was before everyone else was even close to danger. You never lead your entire "army" into a choke point where the enemy potentially has cover and you're out in the open.
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

My favorite part was how Nora killed all of Strausser's men (except maybe one), yet did not kill Strausser himself (frankly, she should have killed him first). Then, with the opportunity to deal the death blow and retrieve the pendant, Miles instead hits him on the head with the butt of his gun and ignores the pendant. Finally, they decline the opportunity to collect all of the guns and ammunition from the dead militiamen.
My thoughts exactly.

My first thought was Nora should have shot Strausser first. That would have given the guy going after Miles enough pause to allow her to take him out immediately after. You always start with the officers and work your way down the ranks. By the time you get to the lowest ranks in a situation like they're in (a brutal militia that will execute you for whatever they decide you've done wrong), the rest may surrender.
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Originally Posted by drummerguy View Post

I haven't watched the last two episodes, but judging from the comments here, the show is slipping quickly into greater depths of stupidity and nonsense. I think I'm going to put it on an earlier hiatus than NBC planned.

We're mere episodes away from another "Go Away Spider" song...I actually thought we were going to get something like that in the Nora flashbacks...
Edited by NetworkTV - 11/14/12 at 8:42am
post #851 of 1851
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Raise you're hand if you saw the sister betrayal thing coming a mile away....

Except for the very end of the episode, I saw everything coming from a mile away.
post #852 of 1851
I didn't see the Colonel's kid being a member of the rebels. Talk about untrustworthiness.

But once they told us that, I knew that Capain/Major/Probably-about-to-get-promoted-to-Colonel Neville would use that information to his advantage.

Stil wanna know how a sleazeball like Monroe was able to not only promote himself from Sergeant to General, but take command of an entire breakaway nation. And then be so vain as to name it after himself (none of the other territories appear to be named after a person).
post #853 of 1851
Thoughts ....

If the "dead Zone" does not effect above earth in space, then perhaps sattelittes are still working, & this could explain:

A). How that woman & guy engineers could track the pendant & "communicate" by activated computers .. And ..
B) Say, for example, that a sattelite signal "activates" the pendants.. If that sattelite is in a very erratic orbit, it may only be "overhead" in their location a couple of times or so a month, for just a few mins each time ..
Further, If the sattelite must also "happen" to be sending that specific pendant's "ID" exactly when overhead, this could also help explain why the pendant activates very infrequently ...

My only "major" gripe so far is how much too quickly within a few years the USA degenerated into these rogue barbaric "nations" & no man's lands ...
I could see perhaps just a section of the deep south..
The Gvmt & army would have been quickly distributing food & supplies, & would have "quickly" gotten all available Steam Locomotives online to move people and goods, same w/Horses & useable boats,, & by 10 -15 yrs out, there would be steam powered vehicles on the streets & waterways, Some Steets lighted by gaslamps & homes heated by gas, as in the pre electric 17/1800's, & coal/steam/hydro machinery pumping water & generally doing a bunch of the factory & Manufacturing jobs of electric motors ...
It seems that it should be morphing more into the 1890's, rather than planet of the apes ... Perhaps more believable if "MonroeVille" was the carved out exception...
Edited by MeatChicken - 11/14/12 at 12:28pm
post #854 of 1851
Only 7 pendants could be seen on the map, none of them on Cali, one in Texas though.. and I BET that Nora's dad has it... mark my words...

I also saw the betrayal from Nora's sister a mile away and the "why they just don't swim across came to mind several times, if the river was that dangerous, it would be easier to craft a raft, rather than go 100 miles out of the way to cross it..
post #855 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

the rest may surrender....

And then you shot them . . .
post #856 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MeatChicken View Post

Thoughts ....
If the "dead Zone" does not effect above earth in space, then perhaps sattelittes are still working, & this could explain:
A). How that woman & guy engineers could track the pendant & "communicate" by activated computers .. And ..
B) Say, for example, that a sattelite signal "activates" the pendants.. If that sattelite is in a very erratic orbit, it may only be "overhead" in their location a couple of times or so a month, for just a few mins each time ..
Further, If the sattelite must also "happen" to be sending that specific pendant's "ID" exactly when overhead, this could also help explain why the pendant activates very infrequently ...

First off, it is "satellites."

Geo satellites are only overhead at the equator. As mentioned in a previous post, after 15 years, geo birds would have outlived their lives. They would all start drifting toward on of the two gravity wells. Plus, geo birds would be able to deal with such a small object, let alone be able to determine its position.

It is possible that the GPS birds could still be functioning, since they are not in geo orbit. But, once the pendant went inside a major structure, it would no longer be able to receive the signals from the GPS birds in order to determine position. Plus, the GPS birds, like the geo birds, would not deal with transferring locating into to a head location.

Because of the unknown structure of the pendants, I believe that they are directly communicating their info. As I doubt that the GPS birds would still be functioning, the pendants have other means to determine their location.
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My only "major" gripe so far is how much too quickly within a few years the USA degenerated into these rogue barbaric "nations" & no man's lands ...

Because if it was the way you described, there wouldn't be a story to tell. For this particular series, it went down as indicated in the back story for the program.
post #857 of 1851
GPS birds might still be in orbit, but their message would be useless. They require substantial ground support to measure their orbits, and upload the orbital information for the broadcast navigational message, also to maintain their clocks. You have to know EXACTLY where each bird is and determine distance from each by time delay of its message, then from the known distances and bird locations, calculate your own location.

GPS devices only receive the broadcast message and calculate from it, they do not tranmit back to the birds.

We don't know much about the center we saw, but it had plenty of electrical power and computers. It could perhaps serve as a ground station. I'm not sure how many ground stations are needed to measure orbits and maintain the navigational message.
post #858 of 1851
The indestructibility of the pendants (which Miles commented on after whacking it repeatedly with his rifle butt), coupled with their "alien" markings and design, still say extraterrestrial to me. I'm betting that's the ultimate twist.
post #859 of 1851
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post


Geo satellites are only overhead at the equator. As mentioned in a previous post, after 15 years, geo birds would have outlived their lives. .

I'm aware of this , however, as in the example mentioned, they would not be stationary geo satts over the equator....
As far as "15 yrs" life span, .. there are plenty of satts still operational well past 15 yrs, even the relatively simplistic, non geo AMRAD-OSCAR 27, launched on 9/26/1993 is still fully operational , so it's not a stretch to imagine some well advanced DARPA type satt with a 20-40 yr lifespan , & to "forgive" them showing the pendant getting a reflected signal indoors..
I agree overall the pendants most likley aren't using space-based transmitters, however,it would not be a total shocker if this is what the writers came up with...
post #860 of 1851
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

The indestructibility of the pendants (which Miles commented on after whacking it repeatedly with his rifle butt), coupled with their "alien" markings and design, still say extraterrestrial to me. I'm betting that's the ultimate twist.

At this point I'm hoping that's the case.
post #861 of 1851
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Originally Posted by jakestir View Post

At this point I'm hoping that's the case.

Originally Posted by archiguy

The indestructibility of the pendants (which Miles commented on after whacking it repeatedly with his rifle butt), coupled with their "alien" markings and design, still say extraterrestrial to me. I'm betting that's the ultimate twist.

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL!!!biggrin.gif
post #862 of 1851
Speaking of cool, how about the giant machine there at the end with Grace and the Government guy! eek.gifcool.gif

I am so much more intrigued by that subplot than by the endless seach for Danny. I loves me some BigGov conspiracy action.
post #863 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MeatChicken View Post

As far as "15 yrs" life span, .. there are plenty of satts still operational well past 15 yrs, even the relatively simplistic, non geo AMRAD-OSCAR 27, launched on 9/26/1993 is still fully operational , so it's not a stretch to imagine some well advanced DARPA type satt with a 20-40 yr lifespan

It is the station keeping fuel usage that shortens the life of geo birds. The electronics can go on for a lot longer, which is the case for non geo birds that orbit the earth. No station keeping fuel required biggrin.gif

The writers better not use satellites as part of their communication network with the pendants.
post #864 of 1851
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

which Miles commented on after whacking it repeatedly with his rifle butt

Rifle butt? What rifle butt?
post #865 of 1851
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Rifle butt? What rifle butt?
I thought he used the hilt of his sword?
post #866 of 1851
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Speaking of cool, how about the giant machine there at the end with Grace and the Government guy! eek.gifcool.gif
I am so much more intrigued by that subplot than by the endless seach for Danny. I loves me some BigGov conspiracy action.
Honestly, that was my hope for the series. I shouldn't have been surprised when it turned into "The Day After Twilight"...
post #867 of 1851
Sorry about "rifle butt", meant to say "sword butt". wink.gif

Either way, that's one tough little pendant.
post #868 of 1851
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Sorry about "rifle butt", meant to say "sword butt". wink.gif
Either way, that's one tough little pendant.
Well, it is made of "unobtainium"... wink.gif
post #869 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Well, it is made of "unobtainium"... wink.gif

Which brings up a point... since they did obtain some "unobtainium"... shouldn't it really have been called... reallydifficultbutnotentirelyunobtainium?

wink.gif
post #870 of 1851
My point exactly. It wasn't a rifle butt.
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