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post #871 of 1851
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Charlie isn't acting unless her forehead furrows are working overtime.
Exactly we get the same look whether she is happy, sad, mad, confused etc. Really bugs
post #872 of 1851
The end last night reminded me of "Breaking Bad" when Walt and Jesse had to kill Gale to be needed.

I hope they have a strong fall finale next week.
post #873 of 1851
So the whole running out of air thing really ticked me off. You're really gonna tell me that an entire subway system (sealed off completely or not) doesn't have enough air to support 10 people for an hour or so? 10 people could probably survive in an enclosed elevator for a couple hours...
post #874 of 1851
i think its about time they put an end to this show. it had good promise but fell apart quickly.
post #875 of 1851
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

So the whole running out of air thing really ticked me off. You're really gonna tell me that an entire subway system (sealed off completely or not) doesn't have enough air to support 10 people for an hour or so? 10 people could probably survive in an enclosed elevator for a couple hours...
+1
post #876 of 1851
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

So the whole running out of air thing really ticked me off. You're really gonna tell me that an entire subway system (sealed off completely or not) doesn't have enough air to support 10 people for an hour or so? 10 people could probably survive in an enclosed elevator for a couple hours...

I thought the same thing ..
Here they are in a huge Cavernous maze of tunnels, & it looked like there should have been a couple of weeks worth of air in there...
post #877 of 1851
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I thought the same thing ..
Here they are in a huge Cavernous maze of tunnels, & it looked like there should have been a couple of weeks worth of air in there...

Agreed. And 90% of the episode was boring, watching them march in a tunnel. Only the part with Rachel was mildly interesting.
post #878 of 1851
Snarky, but funny and on the nose review of last night's episode, from Vulture/NYMag

Revolution Recap: Dazed and Confused

"The worst thing about “Kashmir” is that it puts Charlie in two near-death situations and has her survive both."

"If a character just isn’t working, you blow her up. It’s the only sensible way forward."

Also talks about the ridiculous running out of air bit among other things.
post #879 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MeatChicken View Post

I thought the same thing ..
Here they are in a huge Cavernous maze of tunnels, & it looked like there should have been a couple of weeks worth of air in there...
Not to mention, as they move toward the exit at the other end, there should be an increase in air.

If the air stopped that quickly just from one collapse, they'd be deprived of oxygen at the mid point from it not carrying far enough into the tunnels - collapse or not.

If they were going to go with that lot line they should have had it been mold or something that caused them to hallucinate.
post #880 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Not to mention, as they move toward the exit at the other end, there should be an increase in air.
If the air stopped that quickly just from one collapse, they'd be deprived of oxygen at the mid point from it not carrying far enough into the tunnels - collapse or not.
If they were going to go with that lot line they should have had it been mold or something that caused them to hallucinate.
I thought for sure we'd hear something about a gas that Monroe & Co released into the tunnels upon hearing what had to be a fairly loud explosion, but no, they choose to go with the usual ridiculously implausible.
Edited by keenan - 11/20/12 at 7:16pm
post #881 of 1851
The writers were short on content last night. Approximately 30 minutes of semi-boring material and 14 minutes of hallucinations, which were easy to fast forward through.
post #882 of 1851
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I thought for sure we'd hear something about a gas that Monroe & Co released into the tunnels upon hearing what had to be a fairly loud explosion, but no, they choose to go with the usual ridiculously implausible.

The moment Aaron said he understood what was happening, I also assumed he was going to say that Monroe was using CW in the tunnels. I think a lack of oxygen is more likely affecting the writers. They probably need better ventilation wherever it is that NBC has them penned up.
post #883 of 1851
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

So the whole running out of air thing really ticked me off. You're really gonna tell me that an entire subway system (sealed off completely or not) doesn't have enough air to support 10 people for an hour or so? 10 people could probably survive in an enclosed elevator for a couple hours...

Totally agree....plus, I don't think you could effectively "make" a system that big be air-tight. There we're bullet holes in that door letting air in for instance.

Then....once Charlie killed the militia spy - no one thought to grab his pistol and take it along for future use? Or the weapons of the other rebels that got killed?

I did like Mom's statement to Monroe though: "NOW you need me"
post #884 of 1851
NBC News might have given away the reason for the global power outage a couple of nights ago. They mentioned a huge solar flare that occured over the weekend. They said had the flare occured on the Earth's side of the sun, it would have caused a massive power outage. As soon as I heard that, I immediately thought of Revolution.
post #885 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

NBC News might have given away the reason for the global power outage a couple of nights ago. They mentioned a huge solar flare that occured over the weekend. They said had the flare occured on the Earth's side of the sun, it would have caused a massive power outage. As soon as I heard that, I immediately thought of Revolution.
Except that wouldn't make electricity stop working on a permanent basis like we have here. It might destroy devices, but it wouldn't prevent new devices from functioning nor would it affect simple things like gas engines and light bulbs.

The show actually gave it way last week by showing the big giant room with some sort of large machine in it.
post #886 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

NBC News might have given away the reason for the global power outage a couple of nights ago. They mentioned a huge solar flare that occured over the weekend. They said had the flare occured on the Earth's side of the sun, it would have caused a massive power outage. As soon as I heard that, I immediately thought of Revolution.

I never thought the explanation would be entirely natural, you can bet man is involved to make it a far more sinister story line.
post #887 of 1851
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

NBC News might have given away the reason for the global power outage a couple of nights ago. They mentioned a huge solar flare that occured over the weekend. They said had the flare occured on the Earth's side of the sun, it would have caused a massive power outage. As soon as I heard that, I immediately thought of Revolution.

One wonders if the idea behind the show is to sort of educate people how life might be if there was such a solar flare that hit the Earth. There was such a flare in 1859 but back then about the only electronic device around was the telegraph and the flare knocked that out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

If "education" is the point I think they could do a lot better.
post #888 of 1851
While I'm going to stick with the show, the power outage is supposed to have an explanation based upon fact. And yet they can't even get the oxygen thing right. As pointed out, there was no way that they were going to run out of air to breath.

I did noticed that no one mentioned that the tunnels they were in were in no way a subway tunnel. Too narrow and the turns do not have pointed edges. The whole going down stairs into the water and back out didn't make any sense either. Were they supposed to be in service tunnels between the various subway lines? So much for the tunnel being an express into Philly.

Oh well, can't expect every episode to be perfect. biggrin.gif
post #889 of 1851
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Oh well, can't expect every episode to be perfect. biggrin.gif

But close once in awhile would be nice. wink.gif
post #890 of 1851
Of course they wouldn't run out of air. They're using the whole story line and the air supply is unlimited.
post #891 of 1851
And then there is "30 foot wall around Philadelphia" thing???

Just how many slaves does Monroe have to build such a monstrous project without machinery in 15 years?
post #892 of 1851
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And then there is "30 foot wall around Philadelphia" thing???
Just how many slaves does Monroe have to build such a monstrous project without machinery in 15 years?
It's actually only 10 feet. The Ipad measuring apps don't work anymore, so they just fudge the numbers now to sound tough... wink.gif
post #893 of 1851
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The indestructibility of the pendants (which Miles commented on after whacking it repeatedly with his rifle butt), coupled with their "alien" markings and design, still say extraterrestrial to me. I'm betting that's the ultimate twist.

Not unless Ben and Rachel were working with aliens when they developed the power dampening technology in the first place.

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Speaking of cool, how about the giant machine there at the end with Grace and the Government guy! eek.gifcool.gif

I am so much more intrigued by that subplot than by the endless seach for Danny. I loves me some BigGov conspiracy action.

Agreed. The scientific theory and technical aspects of the blackout are easily more intriguing than all the pedestrian character drama.

The obvious speculation is that the whole thing is all a misguided attempt to counteract global warming, which sounds bat-dung crazy, except that it would explain the glaring lack of alternative technology, even fifteen years on. Since many such technologies would be less efficient at energy storage and transport than electricity, and thus even worse for the environment, the Magic Pendant Society has to keep tabs and manipulate events to ensure that civilization remains primitive and disorganized.
post #894 of 1851
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Not unless Ben and Rachel were working with aliens when they developed the power dampening technology in the first place.

That's possible. Could be they discovered the technology in an "Area 51" type saucer crash. And during their experimentation it just got away from them, hence the worldwide blackout. The government scientists have been working on the problem ever since, but they need all the pendants or some such.

It has to be extraterrestrial tech; it's just too "out there" for any other plausible explanation IMO.

There was no episode last night, right?
post #895 of 1851
'Revolution' scores competitive ratings, but not without criticismBy Stephanie Goldberg, CNN
(CNN) -- With its post-apocalyptic setting, Giancarlo Esposito in the role of endearing villain, and J.J. Abrams as an executive producer, creator Eric Kripke's "Revolution" is a surefire hit -- on paper.

In fact, NBC ordered a full season of "Revolution," which also stars Billy Burke, after airing just three episodes, which is the same amount of time it took the network to axe "The Playboy Club" last year. Yet, it seems viewers become more disillusioned with the freshman drama each week.

Still, with its mid-season finale airing tonight, "Revolution" has garnered competitive ratings, and helped NBC win November sweeps for the first time in nine years.

On Tuesday, CNN.com commenter Bret wrote, "I've watched every episode, but I'm ready to give up" on the show, which takes place 15 years after a global blackout causes the government to collapse and prompts militias to take over.

"The story moves at a snail's pace," Bret continued. "Even if we buy the science behind the show's premise, the individual episodes are so infuriating with their slow pace and stupid and unbelievable character interaction that I'm not watching anymore."

As with many new shows, ratings for "Revolution" have declined since its September 17 premiere drew 11.7 million viewers and a 4.1 rating among adults 18 to 49. Of late, ratings leveled off at about 7 million viewers and a 2.6 rating.

Despite NBC's apparent confidence, "Revolution" will soon embark on a three-month hiatus, to return on March 25, so it can continue benefiting from its current lead-in show, "The Voice."

As Yahoo! TV's Dave Nemetz notes, a long hiatus "could be deadly. There are a ton of new shows coming out in January that could step in and take that audience away."

But it's likely that if "Revolution" doesn't succeed during the second half of its first season, it won't be because of winter break.

"A lot of people wanted to see how the world reacted when the power went out," Nemetz said. "They were disappointed that, basically, the story jumped forward and they didn't get to see the aftermath."

Sure the show revisits these moments in flashbacks, but viewers "don't want to derail the storyline in the current time to keep going back," Nemetz said. "People have been burned with shows like 'Lost' and 'Heroes.' They get invested in them, and seasons later they still don't have answers to the questions they tuned in for, so they get a little disillusioned and give up. That might be happening earlier than usual (with 'Revolution')."

As CNN.com commenter Martyr2 wrote on Wednesday, "I can't believe 'Revolution' continues to be a success. I was really interested in it at first but I think it has really lost steam."

Apart from pace, it's the shows characters that seem to anger viewers.

Though fans appear to enjoy Burke as protagonist Miles Matheson and Esposito ("Breaking Bad") as Major Tom Neville of the Monroe Militia, Tracy Spiridakos in the driver's seat as Charlie Matheson hasn't been as well received.

In October, The Huffington Post's Maureen Ryan wrote, "If Spiridakos has any strengths as an actress (and that's not at all apparent), the show's writers haven't learned to write to them, and every week, despite 'Revolution's' general efficiency and the skills of its other cast members, there's a clunky Charlie moment that makes me want to delete the show's Season Pass from my DVR."

CNN.com commenter Bret agrees: "Charlie is such an annoying, whiny, stupid character. It's not all the fault of the actor. The writers give her such dumb dialogue. Danny (Graham Rogers) is a much more interesting character, but the entire season is spent trying to rescue him (from the militia)."

While other supporting characters like Zak Orth's Aaron Pittman and Elizabeth Mitchell as Rachel Matheson have garnered more positive feedback, TVLine.com editor-at-large Matt Webb Mitovich reminded viewers not to get too attached in an October recap: "NBC's 'Revolution,' in its fourth outing, busted out one of the oldest tricks in the book: inviting us to care, more than we had done to date, about a major-ish character, before killing that person off."

"I believe that people love exploring 'What if?' scenarios, and the one at the heart of 'Revolution' is compelling, especially in an era where so many of us are 'wired in' and immersed in a digital age," Webb Mitovich told CNN via e-mail.

"If anything (detracts) from the 'Revolution' experience -- and mind you, this is a show whose producers vetted with a physicist the very foundation of the global blackout -- it is other 'leaps' and lapses in continuity," he continued, "such as the seemingly fresh-from-Urban Outfitters wardrobe and a surprising dearth of bicycles."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/26/showbiz/tv/nbc-revolution-mid-season/index.html?hpt=hp_bn9
post #896 of 1851
am i supposed to believe that the fuel for the helicopters is good after 15 years?
post #897 of 1851
It took half a season, but someone finally grabbed a gun off a dead guy and started using it. Brilliant!
post #898 of 1851
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am i supposed to believe that the fuel for the helicopters is good after 15 years?


Yes.
post #899 of 1851
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There was no episode last night, right?

To answer my own question, there was. It was apparently pre-empted locally and will be shown tonight at 7:00 per the TWC guide.
post #900 of 1851
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To answer my own question, there was. It was apparently pre-empted locally and will be shown tonight at 7:00 per the TWC guide.

Consider yourself lucky. I don't know why I continue to watch this show? It is so bad. How does it get renewed and Last Resort gets canceled? Oh, because ABC puts their one good new drama on at 8 pm! This series is coming off the DVR for next year. I hope the chopper mows em all down! Well that might be worth seeing.
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