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post #961 of 1851
Amazing that after 15 years with nothing to fly, the helicopter pilots could fly like stunt pilots and the gunners could shoot the eye out of a fly at 1000 yards with a 50 cal!!!

Suspending reality is one thing, but come on!
post #962 of 1851
Maybe I've been watching too much Spartacus, but I kept thinking "ok, why don't they just use a big ball of burning tar (or oil, or something flammable) and toss it at the helo's?" tongue.gif

I'm still hanging in there though. I like the overall plot idea and will take this over any reality offerings on these days.

T
post #963 of 1851
I was laughing at the scene when Neville and his son were talking when they discovered where Charlie was. Behind Neville, there were some branches moving around like the wind was blowing. But the movement was so fake, it was obvious someone was behind him waving it back and forth.

At least Danny is dead. I don't have to listen to that adolescent voice coming out of an adult body any more.
post #964 of 1851
IMO- it was quite a bit better than previous episodes...that being said-
I just hate when they have lead characters (Elizabeth Mitchell) constantly say things like "...it's complicated" to get them out of actual explanations that would give the viewers better insight as to what's actually happened in the past. It's lazy writing or it's necessary because the writers haven't thought that far down the road yet. At any rate- it's certainly not appreciated here mad.gif
post #965 of 1851
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Originally Posted by DoctorCAD View Post

Amazing that after 15 years with nothing to fly, the helicopter pilots could fly like stunt pilots and the gunners could shoot the eye out of a fly at 1000 yards with a 50 cal!!!

Suspending reality is one thing, but come on!
Well, I haven't flown a helicopter in 20 years- but I don't think I'd be that rusty. The skills needed to fly a helicopter become instinctual after you have a few thousand hrs in your log book- it's something you couldn't really forget even if you tried. A little tentative maybe at first- but I'm confident I'd be able to handle myself if pressed into action today.

Now the machinery- the helicopters themselves- yeah, they'd be a mess after not flying for 15+ years.
Turbines and their control systems are very delicate, there's zero chance of them immediately firing up after a prolonged sit- and of course the Jet-A (fuel) would turn to varnish after a few years too- and where are we supposed to believe they're getting more fresh Jet-A for subsequent sorties? The hydraulics and transmissions would be a mess too- all the rubber connections would be shot too after sitting so long as well.
post #966 of 1851
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

I just hate when they have lead characters (Elizabeth Mitchell) constantly say things like "...it's complicated" to get them out of actual explanations that would give the viewers better insight as to what's actually happened in the past. It's lazy writing or it's necessary because the writers haven't thought that far down the road yet. At any rate- it's certainly not appreciated here mad.gif

From Hot Off The Press, note highlighted text:

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TV Notes
NBC hoping for a ratings 'Revolution'
By Rob Owen, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

NBC's "Revolution" was a bright spot for the network last fall, helping to boost its ratings. But the show -- and its higher-rated lead-in, "The Voice" -- hasn't aired since late November, and NBC's ratings once again swim with the fishes.

Will there be yet another reversal of fortune for the peacock network when its successful Monday night lineup returns next week?

"Any time you're off the air for four months you hold your breath and you hope fans come back," series creator Eric Kripke said. "But we take solace and encouragement from a few things, which is there's a long history of genre television really working with these large breaks in between, like 'Walking Dead' or 'Game of Thrones.' "

"Revolution" (10 p.m. Monday) is set in an America without electricity when militias have taken over. Ruthless leader Monroe (David Lyons) kidnapped Danny Matheson (Graham Rogers), prompting his sister, Charlie (Tracy Spiridakos), to set out with her Uncle Miles (Billy Burke, "Twilight") to get him back.

"The second half of the season is such a different mission and quest and energy than the first half that it really does feel like a natural break," Mr. Kripke said in a conference call with reporters last week. "The first half's drive to find Danny was prologue to it, opening up into a much larger and more epic and exciting story."

Mr. Kripke, who previously oversaw The CW's "Supernatural," said the break also gave the show's writers an opportunity to step back and take stock of what they had done.

"Our pace of mythology reveals was probably a tiny bit slow," he said. "At the time you're so focused on establishing character and establishing world. ... But once I looked back at all the completed episodes, if I had a criticism in the storytelling it was that I was feeling the same impatience that the audience was feeling over the last couple. ... I had that vibe of, OK get to it, get to Danny, let's get to the next part."

When viewers last tuned in to "Revolution," Charlie was successful in freeing Danny and their mother, Rachel (Elizabeth Mitchell, "Lost"). And then, somehow, Monroe's minions were chasing them in a helicopter. Monroe has power.

Monday's 11th episode of "Revolution" sets the stage for more big revelations.

"In Episode 13 Rachel reveals pretty much every single thing there is to know about why the blackout happened," Mr. Kripke said. "That scene's a hard swallow every time because you're, like, wow, we're just saying it. Your baked-in, sure-weather instincts are not to have the scene that reveals every single thing in three minutes."

He credits co-executive producer Jon Favreau, who directed the pilot, with encouraging the writers to get on with it.

"We were discussing the problem that as a character Rachel knew why the blackout happened and she was back in and among heroes, she wasn't captive anymore, and we were really wrestling with the question, why wouldn't she just tell them?" Mr. Kripke said. "Jon was able to provide much needed perspective, just looked at me and he was like, she would tell them so have her tell them. ... And so we reveal really why the blackout happened, but the card I think we have up our sleeve is the explanation really opens the door to much greater story possibility."

That also means a more visible Rachel in the second half of the season.

"Rachel's quest is specific, and she's incredibly proactive. She's making a straight line toward what it is that she needs to do," Ms. Mitchell said. "She also unloads everything; the entire secret, the entire history in one crazy conversation in Episode 13. So I think that people will enjoy the fact that she has a lot to say and that her admonition or her quest is very powerful and proactive, which I love in a character."

Mr. Kripke said although the show has a unique concept, his focus is on the characters.

"Look, here's the truth of episodic television: You want every episode's storyline to be great, but the reality is the sheer volume of work means that some are great and some of your stories as a writer [stink] out loud," he said. "But if the characters take and the actors create amazing characters, which I think they're doing, then viewers get invested. I don't think they get invested in any particular storyline, they get invested in the characters. And if the characters are working, then the series works. Conversely, it doesn't matter how cool your concept is. If the characters aren't appealing or relatable to the audience, then it will never work."

The question for "Revolution" now is whether the appeal of the show and its characters has diminished in the show's time away. Will viewers even know "Revolution" is back given NBC's overall decline in audience since last fall?

"Like any good player we just keep our head down and focus on our game," Mr. Kripke said. "We're coming back with 'The Voice,' and the fact is there is no bigger show on television and there's no better lead-in. We're very, very happy and grateful to have such a monster hit as our lead-in."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/ae/tv-radio/tv-preview-nbc-hoping-for-a-ratings-revolution-679884/
post #967 of 1851
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

Well, I haven't flown a helicopter in 20 years- but I don't think I'd be that rusty. The skills needed to fly a helicopter become instinctual after you have a few thousand hrs in your log book- it's something you couldn't really forget even if you tried. A little tentative maybe at first- but I'm confident I'd be able to handle myself if pressed into action today.

Ok, I’ve never flown a helicopter, so let me ask you: would it also be instinctual to fly two helicopters in close proximity such that they only need one magic amplifier? And even if you could, would you want to fly the second bird, the one without the amp? I mean, if Seal Team Six had had equipment like that, they’d still be in Pakistan.

Or is that amplifier not just really powerful but also super smart to be able to keep the bad guys’ helicopters running without also providing power to the good guys they’re attacking?

This show continues to be preposterous on numerous levels. I’ll stick around for the explanation of the blackout in episode 13, but I think that will be all for me.
post #968 of 1851
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Originally Posted by joblo View Post

Ok, I’ve never flown a helicopter, so let me ask you: would it also be instinctual to fly two helicopters in close proximity such that they only need one magic amplifier?.
In straight regular civilian flight ops- formation flying is easy- the second aircraft just follows everything the lead aircraft does. As a matter of fact- the second helicopter doesn't even need to make contact with the control tower in controlled airspace as long as the first helicopter declares "flight of two" when initially contacting approach control or the tower. It's very simple.

Now in combat flying- that all goes out the window and it takes lots of practice to coordinate maneuvers, etc.
Yes- I agree, the synchronized flying/attack scene was pretty far fetched as far as being realistic!
post #969 of 1851
OK, so let me get this straight.

We spend 3/4 of the first season trudging through the woods to go get Danny Boy out of hock and barely more than a day after he's free, he gets himself killed. What a freakin' waste the first part of the season was.

It's like saving up to buy your first new car, only to have a tree fall on it in the driveway before the insurance policy can even kick in.

At least he was the only one to not sit there fawning over Miles and actually pick up the launcher and shoot something. I'll give him that. He just was too stupid to duck and cover after he did it. For that, he deserved to be shot.

I love how the second helicopter exploded after crashing from only 20 feet off the ground.
post #970 of 1851
Danny should could not have received four rounds, and then crumple to the ground. From the moment the first .50 cal. round hit him his body should have suddenly been blown backwards.
post #971 of 1851
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Danny should could not have received four rounds, and then crumple to the ground. From the moment the first .50 cal. round hit him his body should have suddenly been blown backwards.
You know that only happens in TV shows an movies, right (aside from this one, anyway)....?

That being said, the shots he took would have torn through him, remove large volumes of flesh and his organs as they did so.
post #972 of 1851
So what's the "magic" blue capsule and how did it get in him? Interesting.
post #973 of 1851
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So what's the "magic" blue capsule and how did it get in him? Interesting.
Probably it's something to suppress his recumbent alien DNA that is the solution to the loss of power in the world.

I guess they're screwed, now... wink.gif
post #974 of 1851
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So what's the "magic" blue capsule and how did it get in him? Interesting.

I guess now they'll be looking for the red pill...

post #975 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

We spend 3/4 of the first season trudging through the woods to go get Danny Boy out of hock and barely more than a day after he's free, he gets himself killed. What a freakin' waste the first part of the season was.

I was thinking the same thing. Instead of looking crestfallen after Danny got shot, Miles should have looked annoyed. He could have just stayed in his bar all this time. As usual, what are supposed to be emotional moments in this show come off as comical, but that's part of what makes it worth watching.
post #976 of 1851
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I was thinking the same thing. Instead of looking crestfallen after Danny got shot, Miles should have looked annoyed. He could have just stayed in his bar all this time. As usual, what are supposed to be emotional moments in this show come off as comical, but that's part of what makes it worth watching.
Clocking all the stupid things Charlie says and does is another.
post #977 of 1851
The show is high camp and thus a hoot. I'm staying.
post #978 of 1851
Maybe Rachel will swallow the pill, become pregnant, and give birth to Danny again.
post #979 of 1851
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So what's the "magic" blue capsule and how did it get in him?
It's complicated! biggrin.gif
post #980 of 1851
I hope the "explanation" of why the power went out is not some generality a la "Lost".
post #981 of 1851
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I hope the "explanation" of why the power went out is not some generality a la "Lost".
Due to the fact that the show runner has been so reluctant to release "the facts" since day one makes me believe that it's going to be incredibly lame.
post #982 of 1851
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I hope the "explanation" of why the power went out is not some generality a la "Lost".

As replayrob noted (post #969) they're already using the Lost strategy of characters dragging out answers to basic questions so I wouldn't be surprised if the explanation handled similarly.
post #983 of 1851
It think episode 13 where we get "the big reveal" is going to be the make or break point for this show.
I can already imagine the reaction here the next morning eek.gif
post #984 of 1851
those appear to be spade grip M-60s.
post #985 of 1851
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Originally Posted by Roger Lococco View Post

those appear to be spade grip M-60s.
I like the fact that they put their logo on the helecopters before they even knew if they'd ever get them running...

I guess with them, it's like Dharma-branded powdered milk or something.

Having said that, it's really a pretty lame logo. You'd think somebody would be using a dragon or, for that matter, something like a Phoenix as their symbol - instead of one half of the M&M's logo...

"We leave the second 'M' off for unity!"
post #986 of 1851
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

It think episode 13 where we get "the big reveal" is going to be the make or break point for this show.
I can already imagine the reaction here the next morning eek.gif
I predict it will be some variation of:

"Wait...what?..."
post #987 of 1851
Whatching that heli on the picture only has one mini-gun, on most of the shots we see 2 minitguns being fired, not to mention where the missiles are, or perhaps this is a different one?
post #988 of 1851
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I like the fact that they put their logo on the helecopters before they even knew if they'd ever get them running...
that looks like the Motorola logo to me... biggrin.gif
post #989 of 1851
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that looks like the Motorola logo to me... biggrin.gif
That's what I think of when I see it as well.

post #990 of 1851
Random question....

What would happen to the entire satellite network after 15 years of neglect? Just curious if anyone has any ideas on this.
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