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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

You can't vote for people who've been eliminated. They're become eligible for elimination due to how many votes they got on the previous episode. If they get eliminated, I presume that the system won't accept votes for them after the show. You cannot vote until the show is over in your time zone; no one's voted for them during their performance.



OK Got it, so the pretense to voting at the end of each performance is only that "pretense"..I dig. Pardon my ignorance.

DJoel
post #392 of 577
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OK Got it, so the pretense to voting at the end of each performance is only that "pretense"..I dig. Pardon my ignorance.

There's no pretense--Kat just tells you how to vote for the individual contestants who just performed at the end of each performance. If you listen carefully you'll hear that she ends that with the statement, "Phone lines open at the end of the show and will stay open for at least two hours". They don't let you vote until the end of the show, after you've (presumably) watched the performances of all of the contestants and seen the eliminations. I'm guessing that the phone numbers and text codes announced for the eliminated people won't work.
post #393 of 577
For those of you who will, like me, miss our belly dancer Janelle...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rBJK1Bo5AzY
post #394 of 577
I liked the bellydancer at first, but much like Cyrus she proved to not be much of a dancer in other genres.

Was anyone else really uncomfortable with Nigel's interrogation of the dancers who did the dance about the dead father? Good god.
post #395 of 577
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I liked the bellydancer at first, but much like Cyrus she proved to not be much of a dancer in other genres.

Well, she was a hell of a lot better than Cyrus (who screws up every time he has to move his feet) and they asked a lot more from her. Still she was definitely not in the same league as Amelia and Lindsay.
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Was anyone else really uncomfortable with Nigel's interrogation of the dancers who did the dance about the dead father? Good god.

I also wonder if he had Mia's approval to discuss the inspiration for the "bench dance"? She seemed pretty uncomfortable with that. They may have had words after the show.
post #396 of 577
Yeah, I won't compare anyone to Cyrus, because he's just bloody awful. Seems like a nice enough guy, but he can't dance. He's wooden, he plods instead of steps. He can stand in place and pretend he's being electrocuted. That's his skill. And for that he makes the top 10. Congrats, Nigel, you got someone that can't dance into your top 10. Must be proud.
post #397 of 577
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OK Got it, so the pretense to voting at the end of each performance is only that "pretense"..I dig. Pardon my ignorance.

There's no pretense--Kat just tells you how to vote for the individual contestants who just performed at the end of each performance. If you listen carefully you'll hear that she ends that with the statement, "Phone lines open at the end of the show and will stay open for at least two hours". They don't let you vote until the end of the show, after you've (presumably) watched the performances of all of the contestants and seen the eliminations. I'm guessing that the phone numbers and text codes announced for the eliminated people won't work.

You'll notice that the just eliminated dancers' phone numbers are missing from Cat's recap at the end of the show.
post #398 of 577
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

You'll notice that the just eliminated dancers' phone numbers are missing from Cat's recap at the end of the show.
The phone numbers are hard to remember because they do change for each dancer every week (depending on what they order they dance in during a particular show). It would've been better if they had followed the DWTS format where the couple get one phone number and keep the same one throughout the season.

It's not as if Fox can't afford it. rolleyes.gif
post #399 of 577
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Originally Posted by humdinger70 View Post

For those of you who will, like me, miss our belly dancer Janelle...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rBJK1Bo5AzY
She's going to make some guy very happy in the bedroom.
post #400 of 577
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Well, she was a hell of a lot better than Cyrus (who screws up every time he has to move his feet) and they asked a lot more from her. Still she was definitely not in the same league as Amelia and Lindsay.
I also wonder if he had Mia's approval to discuss the inspiration for the "bench dance"? She seemed pretty uncomfortable with that. They may have had words after the show.

Janelle was leagues better than Lindsay. Lindsay should've gone home weeks ago. I'm not sure who has the hots for her, but she's awful. She's not Cyrus awful. But she needs to go home. Even the audience agrees. There's a reason why Cole is continuously safe but Lindsay's not. They should've kept Amelia or even Janelle. Last night's decisions were about youth. I don't know why. Tiffany and Whitney already filled out the barely legal slots. They didn't need Lindsay for that.

Nigel, you're a dirty old man like me. I'd like to at least be able to look at one WOMAN (not just barely out of high school girls) on the tour. Hook me up next year, Sir! tongue.gif
post #401 of 577
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I liked the bellydancer at first, but much like Cyrus she proved to not be much of a dancer in other genres.
Was anyone else really uncomfortable with Nigel's interrogation of the dancers who did the dance about the dead father? Good god.

Absolutely low rent on Nigel's part. It just compounded the awfulness of the entire concept.
post #402 of 577
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

She's going to make some guy very happy in the bedroom.

Oh yeah but on her solo last night she looked like she knew she was going home. Her dancing was much less exciting than it been before. Sort of "let me get this over with and pack".
post #403 of 577
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

You'll notice that the just eliminated dancers' phone numbers are missing from Cat's recap at the end of the show.
The phone numbers are hard to remember because they do change for each dancer every week (depending on what they order they dance in during a particular show).

...And the four eliminated dancers didn't have numbers in the show-end recap.
post #404 of 577
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Janelle was leagues better than Lindsay. Lindsay should've gone home weeks ago. I'm not sure who has the hots for her, but she's awful. She's not Cyrus awful. But she needs to go home. Even the audience agrees. There's a reason why Cole is continuously safe but Lindsay's not. They should've kept Amelia or even Janelle. Last night's decisions were about youth. I don't know why.

I'd disagree - I think Lindsay is quite good. Certainly this week her dancing was far superior to Amelia's.
post #405 of 577
I'm wondering how they're going to end this. And also if there's going to be another 'dead' week'. It's looking like the following (I'm just guessing at this point):

August 22 - from 10 to 8

August 29 - from 8 to 6

September 5 - no show? Because NBC has the NFL season opener that night (Cowboys at Giants) - game moved to Wednesday because Obama will be making his nomination acceptance speech on Thursday night September 6. Because of ratings issues SYTYCD might not air this week.

September 12 - from 6 to 4? Or is it the final program of season 9? (There are two winners - one guy and one gal, might make sense at this point)

The single show per week with voting at the end and results the following week doesn't work too well at this point. eek.gif
post #406 of 577
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Originally Posted by humdinger70 View Post

I'm wondering how they're going to end this. And also if there's going to be another 'dead' week'. It's looking like the following (I'm just guessing at this point):
August 22 - from 10 to 8
August 29 - from 8 to 6
September 5 - no show? Because NBC has the NFL season opener that night (Cowboys at Giants) - game moved to Wednesday because Obama will be making his nomination acceptance speech on Thursday night September 6. Because of ratings issues SYTYCD might not air this week.
September 12 - from 6 to 4? Or is it the final program of season 9? (There are two winners - one guy and one gal, might make sense at this point)
The single show per week with voting at the end and results the following week doesn't work too well at this point. eek.gif

They don't have forever--the X-Factor's season premiere is September 12th, making September 5th the last time they can air in that slot, so their finale has got to be then. All of this cowardly don't-want-to-compete-with-this-or-that-so-we'll-skip-that week can't keep happening. They'll be down to the top 8 on the 22nd and top 6 on the 29th (with votes for those 6 known the next day), so the finale will be on the fifth and be either top 6 or top 4. Of course, they could have a normal show on September 5th and a top 4 finale in a special time slot. If they have a finale on the 5th of September, it will have been a 13 episode season, their shortest ever, almost half of it spent on auditions and Vegas rolleyes.gif.
post #407 of 577
Or they could have ditched most of the useless audition episodes and then not have to rush through the most important phase of the competition. Hooboy.
post #408 of 577
I don't know why the pretense that any of the night's performances or the solos matter in the decision. They know who is in danger the entire time and have made their decision. Look no further than the video package of the eliminated dancers. Think they can throw that together over a commercial break (and don't forget a lot of that 3-4 min is supposed to be spent deliberating)? Of course, I'm under the assumption that whole part of the show is live. We know some parts aren't, like (typically) the opening group routine.

There's no contest on the guy's side of this. Cyrus will win. I'm not finding a stand-out girl yet. And in fact, this season's dancers are kind of lackluster in comparison. I found myself mindlessly flipping through Twitter and Facebook and realized I'd missed a routing at the end of it. Prior seasons would have never found me looking away from the screen.

I don't know that I care for this format. Perhaps if they revealed the bottom 3 to the judges at the same time everyone else finds out, I'd find it more credible.
post #409 of 577
I think Cole maybe the best character dancer since Twitch took the stage. His ability to become the character is really uncanny. I am not sure if they are keeping the same format, but I am kind of disappointed Lindsay is staying. I think the pairing can only be as good as she is.
post #410 of 577
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

I don't know why the pretense that any of the night's performances or the solos matter in the decision. They know who is in danger the entire time and have made their decision. Look no further than the video package of the eliminated dancers. Think they can throw that together over a commercial break (and don't forget a lot of that 3-4 min is supposed to be spent deliberating)? Of course, I'm under the assumption that whole part of the show is live. We know some parts aren't, like (typically) the opening group routine.
There's no contest on the guy's side of this. Cyrus will win. I'm not finding a stand-out girl yet. And in fact, this season's dancers are kind of lackluster in comparison. I found myself mindlessly flipping through Twitter and Facebook and realized I'd missed a routing at the end of it. Prior seasons would have never found me looking away from the screen.
I don't know that I care for this format. Perhaps if they revealed the bottom 3 to the judges at the same time everyone else finds out, I'd find it more credible.

I think they make a departing package for every contestant well in advance of their leaving. There is no need to put something together quickly. It's as simple as queuing it up when Cat interviews the outgoing party....
post #411 of 577
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I think they make a departing package for every contestant well in advance of any of them leaving. There is no need to put something together quickly. It's as simple as queuing it up when Cat interviews the outgoing party....
post #412 of 577
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I think Cole maybe the best character dancer since Twitch took the stage. His ability to become the character is really uncanny. I am not sure if they are keeping the same format, but I am kind of disappointed Lindsay is staying. I think the pairing can only be as good as she is.
In the past when they get to the top 10 they draw a partner out of a hat every week thereafter. They perform one dance with that partner and one with an All Star, also supposedly drawn out of a hat. I'm fairly sure that the partner that they had from the beginning isn't in the hat for them the first time.
post #413 of 577
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I think they make a departing package for every contestant well in advance of their leaving. There is no need to put something together quickly. It's as simple as queuing it up when Cat interviews the outgoing party....

You may be quite right. But they had the two girls' (and guys') packages blended together. Perhaps it is clever live editing, but I daresay not.
post #414 of 577
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

I don't know why the pretense that any of the night's performances or the solos matter in the decision. They know who is in danger the entire time and have made their decision. Look no further than the video package of the eliminated dancers. Think they can throw that together over a commercial break (and don't forget a lot of that 3-4 min is supposed to be spent deliberating)? Of course, I'm under the assumption that whole part of the show is live. We know some parts aren't, like (typically) the opening group routine.

Like bobby94928 said, I'm pretty sure they put together exit packages for every contestant before the first competition show. As for the blending, I can see where they might actually have software to do that automatically.
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There's no contest on the guy's side of this. Cyrus will win.

As with Phillip "Pacman" Chbeeb, now that he's in the top 10, Cyrus is toast. They just wanted him on tour; now that they've accomplished that they'll take the gloves off and let him fail epically. He's the worst top 20 contestant at all conventional dance styles the show has ever known. Most of the street-style specialists taken into the top 20 have improved every week--this guy has shown no talent for dance whatsoever.
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I don't know that I care for this format. Perhaps if they revealed the bottom 3 to the judges at the same time everyone else finds out, I'd find it more credible.

I'm sure that Nigel gets the news of the bottom 3 the morning after the show, but they may not be revealed to the other judges until the night of the show, but perhaps before the taping. I really think that they take the professionally choreographed and produced performances on that night's show into consideration, as well as reports from the choreographers and any solo they ask them to perform if they're still undecided.

I kind of like the format--there was so much wasted time in the results show, revealing the bottom six one and two at a time between commercial breaks and guest acts.
Edited by michaeltscott - 8/17/12 at 10:01pm
post #415 of 577
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

You may be quite right. But they had the two girls' (and guys') packages blended together. Perhaps it is clever live editing, but I daresay not.

Computers do amazing things really fast.
post #416 of 577
I really enjoyed the episode. If I had to pick my favorite 3 male dancers it would be Alex, Brandon, and Jakob and probably Twitch as a fourth. MY favorite 2 females are probably Kathryn and Allison, so I thought the All Star casting was great tonight.

The only number I didn't care for was the Stacey Tookey piece. I have a hard time decoupling the dance form the music and I absolutely hated the music she used. I also felt bad for Cheon since he seems destined to be in the bottom again next week. Nigel mentioned he needed somethign to connect with the audience and I think a weird lyrical hip-hop piece was probably not it.
post #417 of 577
Keon/Cheon whatever it is just doesn't connect with me at all. Really good solos, really bland when partnered. Would love to have seen George stay. He's so much better solo and with a partner, but he's so bland as a person that I think it hurts him. Sad to see him go.

Found the entire night to be enjoyable. Cyrus still can't dance well, but his dance was entertaining, which counts. My 3 favorite numbers were the Bollywood dance (I like Will, but I couldnt take my eyes off Katherine), Eliana (curls were on display finally), and the last number with Twitch was what happens when great music meets great choreography. Very enjoyable show. The complete opposite of last week.
post #418 of 577
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Originally Posted by Kevin_Wadsworth View Post

I really enjoyed the episode. If I had to pick my favorite 3 male dancers it would be Alex, Brandon, and Jakob and probably Twitch as a fourth. MY favorite 2 females are probably Kathryn and Allison, so I thought the All Star casting was great tonight.
The only number I didn't care for was the Stacey Tookey piece. I have a hard time decoupling the dance form the music and I absolutely hated the music she used. I also felt bad for Cheon since he seems destined to be in the bottom again next week. Nigel mentioned he needed somethign to connect with the audience and I think a weird lyrical hip-hop piece was probably not it.

Allison outdanced EVERYONE tonight. My issue with the Stacey Tookey piece was that it was too dumbed down like nearly all the choreography tonight. It was beautiful but too simple. Eliana and Alex together? I expected to lose continence yet I just felt so-so...

The Bollywood number where Kathryn embarassed Will was too simple. Tyce's broadway routine was ok. The initial disco routine was ok but dumbed down. It's lik everyone but Eliana and Lindsay had a Cyrus choreography this week.

Lindsay actually did a great job tonight!

The best were Allison then Kathryn then Twitch then Alex. Oh the actual competitors?

It was Eliana>Lindsay>Tiffany.

LA Dance Project? I've seen more challenging routines on "Dance Moms."

George and Audrey, we will miss you. I actually didn't mind either of them. Audrey was off tonight on her hip-hop, but she will do well with her career.
post #419 of 577
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Allison outdanced EVERYONE tonight. My issue with the Stacey Tookey piece was that it was too dumbed down like nearly all the choreography tonight. It was beautiful but too simple. Eliana and Alex together? I expected to lose continence yet I just felt so-so...
The Bollywood number where Kathryn embarassed Will was too simple. Tyce's broadway routine was ok. The initial disco routine was ok but dumbed down. It's lik everyone but Eliana and Lindsay had a Cyrus choreography this week.
Lindsay actually did a great job tonight!
The best were Allison then Kathryn then Twitch then Alex. Oh the actual competitors?
It was Eliana>Lindsay>Tiffany.
LA Dance Project? I've seen more challenging routines on "Dance Moms."
George and Audrey, we will miss you. I actually didn't mind either of them. Audrey was off tonight on her hip-hop, but she will do well with her career.

Good analysis, Allargon, and I agree with your ranking and comment on the LA Dance Project.

Skyhill is right about Chehon not connecting, but as the judges said - what solos! The solos are my least favorite part of the competition, but I was actually excited they were going to do them tonight so I could see his.

Both girls' solos were lackluster, and I would have kept Audrey over Whitney based on body of work, but it was a close call.
post #420 of 577
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Originally Posted by Kevin_Wadsworth View Post

Good analysis, Allargon, and I agree with your ranking and comment on the LA Dance Project.
Skyhill is right about Chehon not connecting, but as the judges said - what solos! The solos are my least favorite part of the competition, but I was actually excited they were going to do them tonight so I could see his.
Both girls' solos were lackluster, and I would have kept Audrey over Whitney based on body of work, but it was a close call.

I'd go with Whitney for body, but I'm with you on Audrey's body of work in this show. She's at least done some memorable routines (good and bad), which I can't say about Whitney. I still can't tell the difference between her and other blond dancer. With the exception of Eliana, I think all the current season dancers got overshadowed.
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