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post #31 of 115
I emailed LG again just to check up to see if the 84LM9600 was still a go for this fall. I was told that yes the TV is still planned for a September release. I also asked if the TV was going to be full array or edge lit, and I was told that it will be edge lit with local dimming.


Seth
post #32 of 115
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

I emailed LG again just to check up to see if the 84LM9600 was still a go for this fall. I was told that yes the TV is still planned for a September release. I also asked if the TV was going to be full array or edge lit, and I was told that it will be edge lit with local dimming.


Seth

Wait, what?? How can it be edge lit and local dimming? Don't you need full array to have local dimming or am I missing something.
post #33 of 115
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Wait, what?? How can it be edge lit and local dimming? Don't you need full array to have local dimming or am I missing something.

yes, it can
from marketing point it works
from PQ it doesn't - IMHO

if 9600 will not have direct full array than I'll pass on this set :-(
post #34 of 115
4k? Why? Studios can't even release their 1080p transfers in decent quality half the time, does anyone reasonably think they're gonna care enough to jump to 4k? I doubt it. You can buy the TV, but might be waiting a while for actual 4k encoded content.
post #35 of 115
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4k? Why? Studios can't even release their 1080p transfers in decent quality half the time, does anyone reasonably think they're gonna care enough to jump to 4k? I doubt it. You can buy the TV, but might be waiting a while for actual 4k encoded content.

Is it me or does 4k seem like another gimmick to sell sets. I barely hear anyone mention 3d any more so this is obvious the next buzz word to boost sales.

Next up 960mhz refresh
post #36 of 115
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Is it me or does 4k seem like another gimmick to sell sets. I barely hear anyone mention 3d any more so this is obvious the next buzz word to boost sales.

Next up 960mhz refresh

In my personal opinion, if you were viewing a screen big enough, 100+ inches, projector, perhaps, and you had a movie shot with say, 70mm film, or something like that, there would probably be a noticeable enough difference with a 4k transfer. Enough of a difference for me or most people to care? Probably not. But, you'll still get plenty of people coming to 4k's defense, if you tell them it's probably not practical or necessary for most home theater applications.

Not to mention, it's not gonna make enough of a difference to get me to upgrade my TV, receiver probably, and start buying 4k encoded movies. I just don't see it on the horizon for consumer use anytime soon. But, give this thread a few more hours, I'm sure a dozen or so people will show up and start crying that I'm wrong and that they can tell the difference from 1080p vs 4k on a 19" black and white TV, so it's, totally, necessary.

Yeah, buzz word is what I'm thinking. I can't wait for 9600hz, it totally makes a huge leap in picture quality over 9480hz! There's a new 92" set coming out next year for only $8,000 dollars that has the feature. It's totally worth the upgrade over this outdated set I just bought this year.
post #37 of 115
If the TV is large enough, or you sit close enough there is a noticeable difference in PQ even from a 1080p source up-scaled to 4k. Games that take advantage of 4k resolution probably aren't too far behind.

I'm not sure how well it will take off mass market though. I still have family members that tune to the SD channel instead of the HD channel so the advantage will certainly be lost on them.

Sharp had a demo at CES that showed the potential really well (as well as some native feeds). While I don't think it will have mass-market appeal, its the most excited I've been about TV tech since HD.
post #38 of 115
Edge lit local dimming

The different typs of Local Dimming are compared in the following link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-6482_7-399.html
post #39 of 115
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

yes, it can
from marketing point it works
from PQ it doesn't - IMHO

if 9600 will not have direct full array than I'll pass on this set :-(

I think on an edge lit set it would just be called dimming, not local dimming.
Unless they dim just one edge of the TV, which you would think would lead to uniformity issues.
post #40 of 115
Edge lit local dimming may separatly control 4 sets of rows and columns with separate light guides on each edge which can create 32 different "local" zones. Where as full array local dimming may have more then 200 zones.
post #41 of 115
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Is it me or does 4k seem like another gimmick to sell sets. I barely hear anyone mention 3d any more so this is obvious the next buzz word to boost sales.

Next up 960mhz refresh

I think it's a little of both. 4K is obviously on the horizon. Ok - a long ways off on the horizon perhaps - but there are emerging technologies for it, ie Sony's 1000ES PJ and BDP S790 4K player [both of which will upsample 1080p material to 4K] - still again, there are upcoming FD offerings from LG , Sharp, and [I assume] Sony - so there is something out there. My guess is it will continue along the fringe path of the elite for at least the next 5 years and then either blossom or die. Now being one of those elite folks, I'll probably go for it, especially if the FD size gets around 90" and produces an arrayed picture that is good and stable. I have a sunroom wall that's just dying for one of these.
post #42 of 115
avmagazine.it in Italy is reporting October release in France and $8500 USD price tag as of May 30, 2012. Let's hope it finds its way over here to the US.

http://www.avmagazine.it/news/televi...euro_7009.html
post #43 of 115
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

avmagazine.it in Italy is reporting October release in France and $8500 USD price tag as of May 30, 2012. Let's hope it finds its way over here to the US.

http://www.avmagazine.it/news/televi...euro_7009.html

Very interesting. And if the $8500 price holds true, that's even better! LG US still seem firm on their plans to release this TV here in the Sept/Oct time frame. So all we can do is wait and hope that LG US throws us a bone of info for the US release. Thanks for sharing.


Seth
post #44 of 115
My sources tell me the price will be $9,999 USD. It's good to see people talking about the 84" with all the OLED TV stuff and the bad reviews of the LM9600 55". I have to say though, those who plan on getting the 84" be aware how big the TV is. I've seen it in person and the 84" is no joke. Even a wall mount sounds ludicrous, but then again my house isn't super huge.
post #45 of 115
Things have been pretty quiet here lately. Has anyone heard anything new? I'm so ready to buy this TV now, but the only hold up is this TV not being available yet. Argh! Last I heard the TV was still on track for a late Sept/early Oct release. Let's hope that holds true.
post #46 of 115
I'm also keeping my eyes open for any news. Has anyone heard more about a possible release?

Graceace
post #47 of 115
LG 84LM9600 can be found in Russia under lg 84lm960v for 398,000 rubles or $11,873.85. I'm sure prices will drop eventually in a few years. They also have the LG 55EM960v OLED for 245,000 rubles. They get the good stuff 1st now. We have to wait to even pre-order.
post #48 of 115
make a 84LM9600 with oled and im sold.
post #49 of 115
It says on there it's an LCD/LED/Plasma

What's an LCD Plasma? I have never heard of such a thing.
post #50 of 115
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post


Is it me or does 4k seem like another gimmick to sell sets. I barely hear anyone mention 3d any more so this is obvious the next buzz word to boost sales.


Next up 960mhz refresh

I agree that it is a gimmick but this one, unlike 3D, will in fact work. It is just like people who say they have to absolutely have 1080 on a 40 inch display but are sitting 20ft away. People see 3D as a feature where as resolution is a component to PQ (without realizing there are many other attributes to PQ).
post #51 of 115
I called LG yesterday and asked as to the status of the 84LM9600. The person I spoke with told me the TV is still scheduled to be released this year, and that the most current info states a November release. No pricing info is available yet. I was told to call again sometime in July and inquire again, as at that time they will have a newer product info list for 2012 TV's.

I hope that when I contact them again in say mid July they will have pricing and an exact release date. But at least things still look promising for a 2012 release on this TV.
post #52 of 115
I just Googled it and came up with not a lot of stuff. Would've thought there'd be more fanfare, reviews, debates goin on - oh well
post #53 of 115
Sorry, but could someone please remind me if this set is supposed to be OLED or just regular LED? I am getting conflicting information from different sources (even within LG).

Also, is it back lit or edge lit?

Thanks!
post #54 of 115
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Originally Posted by HorizonChaser View Post

Sorry, but could someone please remind me if this set is supposed to be OLED or just regular LED? I am getting conflicting information from different sources (even within LG).
Also, is it back lit or edge lit?
Thanks!

It is suppose to be 4K LED and edge-lit. I would doubt you will see it this year if at all.
post #55 of 115
I called LG today and asked about the 84LM9600 and when the release date would be. The person I spoke with told me their system shows a November release. And this is updated info, so it looks like "hopefully" sometime in November we'll be able to buy one of these.
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post #57 of 115
12k for this tv wow insane if you acutally pay that price for 4k content no where on this planet and no real plans for stations or movies etc to push for it. hmmm so some of you will pay 12k for supposely sweet PQ i wonder if there 55" OLED thats like 7500 will rivil this in PQ either way to much money just to be the first might as well wait all this out and see if there is even a 4k push
post #58 of 115
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for 4k content no where on this planet and no real plans for stations or movies etc to push for it

"If you build it, they will come"
4K is coming. It seems there is an aversion to it by some (not nec.you). The 2 AVrecievers ( denon 3313 and onkyo 818) that I am looking, both will do 4K up-conversion. As for the price of the tv, I wouldn't pay 12,000 but I would pay 7 or 8.
post #59 of 115
Ouch, my bd, it looks 21,900
post #60 of 115
Well, it will be a great HTPC. The new ATI and NVIDA cards (GTX 670) will outpit quadHD over HDMI
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