Originally Posted by Dharvey1221
If you don't need the inputs and 15 watts is not a concern then I would think 2113 would be fine against 2312. I mean both have audessey xt.
As for crappy Sirius, I think it's great! I pay for sat radio because I hate annoying commercials from am/fm and crappy repeats on FM. I like talk and and for me it's been a great service. If I want music only I have an iPhone and iTunes. There's pandora and spotify that can meet your needs.
Analog is out digital is here to stay so I don't see them bringing those inputs back. Again all this depends on your specific needs out of a receiver. Yes no one needs 4k resolution. I didn't need 1.3 hdmi because I would never get 3d. 4 years later got a great deal and well my 987 was now old. So last two years my receiver only used optical in because it couldn't handle 3d.
Sometimes staying current is the way to go. My 2 cents.
It's more than 15 Watts. Many don't understand how a current amplifier works or ohms law in finding actual, useable power output.
Even though 8 ohm nominal impedance speaker can be used, those speakers have a varying impedance that follows differing frequencies. It's very common for an 8 ohm nominal impedance speaker to have dips down to 4 ohms.
If an amplifier clips at 150 watts into 4 ohms, it can not play more than 75 watts into 8 ohms to keep the amplifier from clipping (into 4 ohms).
The 4 ohm output is what really dictates how much useable power you have.
has 155 watts @ .1% distortion and 199 watts @ 1% distortion.
has 80 watts @ .1% distortion and 145 watts @ 1% distortion.
A significant difference in power output at 4 ohms. The differences in 8 ohms would be 50% of those to maintain the distortion percentage in 4 ohms and to prevent clipping.
What's not told is the difference in all channels driven as these test only include the 8 ohm results. Judgeing by the AVR-2112ci's diminishing current output for 4 ohm loads, it can only get worse for all channels driven.
Obviously the results were for the AVR-2311ci but not much had changed to the AVR-2312ci except the addition of networking on the 2312.
I guess you get what works better for you. Newer isn't always better especially with cost cutting and budget cuts. The AVR-2312ci is the definite winner as I see it. I can not see the AVR-2313ci as the better model at all. It gains little and loses a lot. For $99, you can get a streaming media box that does pretty much every conceivable service offered. The saving with the AVR-2312ci are much greater than $99.