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How good is the Integra DTM 5.9 receiver?

post #1 of 15
5/20/12 at 6:31am
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Hi everyone,

How good is the Integra DTM 5.9 receiver with a pair of B&W 686 speakers?
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post #2 of 15
5/20/12 at 2:24pm
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Bump:

Sorry for bumping my thread.

Does everyone have the answer to my question? I'm sorry to ask again.
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post #3 of 15
5/20/12 at 9:12pm
Its ok as long as you know its limitations. It isn't rated for 6 or 4 ohm speakers. I'd look at the Harman Kardon 3390 or 3490. Both are rated to 4ohms - and usually are cheaper. I've owned a 3390 for about two years and use it in my bedroom 2 channel setup. It works flawlessly - the only rub I have with it is its very large remote.
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post #4 of 15
5/21/12 at 2:53am
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It's not going to work since it's not rated at 4 or 6 ohm speakers? The shop I want to buy it from recommended it to me.
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post #5 of 15
5/21/12 at 3:36am
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Would this work better? A Marantz SR4023 receiver with the pair of B&W 686 speakers? I was thinking that the Marantz receiver can handle what you explained about the ohms?

If someone has the answers with Marantz, and B&W then please reply.

Thank you,
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post #6 of 15
5/21/12 at 3:48am
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It's not going to work since it's not rated at 4 or 6 ohm speakers? The shop I want to buy it from recommended it to me.

The Onkyos / Integras are manufacturer rated (designed) for speakers with a low impedance down to 3 Ohm. This should meet most speaker impedance (4-8 Ohm) available.
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post #7 of 15
5/21/12 at 3:56am
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The Onkyos / Integras are manufacturer rated (designed) for speakers with a low impedance down to 3 Ohm. This should meet most speaker impedance (4-8 Ohm) available.

I'm confused. Are you trying to say it will work, or it won't work? I'm not understanding. I learn slow, so there is no way for me to understand.
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post #8 of 15
5/21/12 at 5:17am
Sorry, but i don't know the specs for the B&W speakers.
But as stated the Onkyo and Integra AVRs are generally specified (and stable) for impedance values down to 3 Ohm. You might check the data sheet for the B&W speakers though, to make sure it fits.
Most modern speakers (with some rather exotic exceptions) are defined as 4-8 Ohm mean value, which would fit.
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post #9 of 15
5/21/12 at 7:47am
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Sorry, but i don't know the specs for the B&W speakers.
But as stated the Onkyo and Integra AVRs are generally specified (and stable) for impedance values down to 3 Ohm. You might check the data sheet for the B&W speakers though, to make sure it fits.
Most modern speakers (with some rather exotic exceptions) are defined as 4-8 Ohm mean value, which would fit.

Integra/Onkyo list very few AVRs or stereo receivers as 4ohm capable. Integra's own website shows the 5.9 as being rated for 8ohm speakers only - check the specs under 'features' - neither the 4 or 6 ohm spec is checked off - meaning it isn't recommended for those speaker loads - meaning the amp section may not be as good as other stereo receivers. Both of the Harman Kardon receivers I mentioned above are 4ohm rated.

B&W speakers are almost always 8ohm - as is the 686. The Integra 5.9 is pretty much an Onkyo TX-8555 IIRC. At any rate the Integra should work fine for those speakers. As would the Marantz 4023 - or just about any other stereo receiver you might want to buy. I mentioned the lack of 4ohm rating for that Integra since you might want to buy some 4ohm speakers at some point in the future.
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post #10 of 15
5/21/12 at 8:23am
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So, what your saying is that the B&W 686 speakers won't work on that Integra Receiver, well, it won't be recommended, but the B&W 686 speakers will be recommended for the Marantz 4023 receiver?

Am I understanding that correctly in basic short words?
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post #11 of 15
5/21/12 at 1:09pm
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Integra/Onkyo list very few AVRs or stereo receivers as 4ohm capable. Integra's own website shows the 5.9 as being rated for 8ohm speakers only - check the specs under 'features' - neither the 4 or 6 ohm spec is checked off - meaning it isn't recommended for those speaker loads - meaning the amp section may not be as good as other stereo receivers. Both of the Harman Kardon receivers I mentioned above are 4ohm rated.

B&W speakers are almost always 8ohm - as is the 686. The Integra 5.9 is pretty much an Onkyo TX-8555 IIRC. At any rate the Integra should work fine for those speakers. As would the Marantz 4023 - or just about any other stereo receiver you might want to buy. I mentioned the lack of 4ohm rating for that Integra since you might want to buy some 4ohm speakers at some point in the future.

It has been stated numerous times before that both Integra and Onkyo have designed their amps for 3 Ohm minimum although not explicitly stated in their data sheets.
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post #12 of 15
5/21/12 at 1:21pm
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I'm really so sorry, but I am not understanding which means I am very confused. I'm assuming you guys would recommend, or don't recommend it? I do appreciate all of the info, but I'm not understanding the info.

Assuming it's not recommended for the B&W 686 with the 5.9. Then would or wouldn't it be recommended the B&W 686 with the Marantz SR4023?
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post #13 of 15
5/21/12 at 2:42pm
Nothing to recommend but just saying, that it is technically possible.
The choice is yours though.
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post #14 of 15
5/21/12 at 2:55pm
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What exactly would happen using those speakers with Marantz SR4023 stereo receiver. I'm guessing it would blow out the system?

The guy at the shop recommended that to me. I hate to throw member names into this thread, but it was that William user who referred me to that shop based on my first thread.
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post #15 of 15
5/21/12 at 3:04pm
From the B&W website - the 686 is rated 8 ohm with a minimum of 5.1 ohm so it should be absolutely fine with any receiver sold. The only issue I see is that this particular speaker is less efficient than many as it is rated at 84 dB but still it is claimed that an amp with 25-100 watts is fine. Just be aware, this speaker does not do low frequencies well and will require a subwoofer for most uses.
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