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post #91 of 171
5/31/12 at 4:32pm
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Shots of Abyss and True lies were in the old thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1220218&page=3
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post #92 of 171
6/1/12 at 3:51am
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Van Ling.

I know his name, but unfortunately was likely thinking about how Val Kilmer just doesn't look like a star anyore and somehow, Van became Val.
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post #93 of 171
6/1/12 at 8:04am
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Shots of Abyss and True lies were in the old thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1220218&page=3

Ha, ha!!
That old thread have the Digital Bits saying they were wrong bout "TA" being released in 2O-10 & it will be released in 20-11.
Hey wait, the DB is the same ones that start this thread off w/a 20-13 release.
Could they be wrong three times on this title???
or
Third Times A Charm!!!
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post #94 of 171
6/1/12 at 11:48am
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Ha, ha!!
That old thread have the Digital Bits saying they were wrong bout "TA" being released in 2O-10 & it will be released in 20-11.
Hey wait, the DB is the same ones that start this thread off w/a 20-13 release.
Could they be wrong three times on this title???
or
Third Times A Charm!!!

I beleive my hate of the digital buts and one person in particular is well known, but I only posted this as I have heard it from other sources I cannot mention.
It was handy that he posted it as I cannot mention mine.
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post #95 of 171
6/1/12 at 10:34pm
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Yes, I understand what you're saying that blue can be used in a "complimentary" fashion against an opposite color just as teal can. And you obviously feel that this is just as bad as teal-and-orange. However, in my opinion (which is just that, my opinion), teal is a very gaudy and obnoxious color that draws attention to itself in a way that blue does not. In our everyday lives, teal is actually not all that prevalent a color in our interaction with the world, yet practically every movie made today is doused with it. It's an eye sore.

Is this why they ruined the HD transfer of Blade Runner with the GREEN tint? I mean green!?! I saw the original and it wasn't green. Also at night in reality shades are mostly bluish not green. I think these "artists" who sit there rubbing their chin and say "you know I think this will look better tinted" then proceed to ruin a movie should just leave the color the eff alone!

BTW what ever happened to a HD transfer of the Abyss? First is was supposed to be 2010, then 2011, then 2012, now it rumored to be 2013. Why are they dragging their ass on this?
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post #96 of 171
6/2/12 at 12:46am
I was flipping thru the HD movie channels tonite and stumbled upon The Abyss...

Holy Crap!!!
Is all I can say....

Believe it or not, it was 4x3 AR that looked like anything BUT High-Definition.
I just couldn't believe how bad it looked.
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post #97 of 171
6/3/12 at 6:43am
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I was flipping thru the HD movie channels tonite and stumbled upon The Abyss...

Holy Crap!!!
Is all I can say....

Believe it or not, it was 4x3 AR that looked like anything BUT High-Definition.
I just couldn't believe how bad it looked.

This happened to me a month or so ago, took me 3 secs to hit delete on the DVR. What a disappointment...
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post #98 of 171
6/3/12 at 9:10am
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Is this why they ruined the HD transfer of Blade Runner with the GREEN tint? I mean green!?! I saw the original and it wasn't green. Also at night in reality shades are mostly bluish not green. I think these "artists" who sit there rubbing their chin and say "you know I think this will look better tinted" then proceed to ruin a movie should just leave the color the eff alone!

Each decade presents "trends" in color timing. They're usually based on the limitations of technology and, the visual tone of present day movie making. Someone brought up 80s movies being primarily yellow-red cast and, these transfers were brighter. Ridley Scott prefers "contemporary color trends" whenever given the opportunity to further manipulate the visual for the current generation and, the latest format, it's completely in his wheelhouse.

Cameron loves blue — Michael Mann started it first blue. Now cyan isn't dynamic enough when compared to the green tone dominating teal. All of the stay-at-home auteur's and, armchair cinematographers complaining about color trends, should find a new cause. Does anyone remember green in the post-Matrix era of new production?
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post #99 of 171
6/3/12 at 12:42pm
The Matrix only recently had a green tint.
Color timing and Soundtracks get no protection from 3rd party revisionist manipulation.
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post #100 of 171
6/3/12 at 12:49pm
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the matrix only recently had a green tint.
Color timing and soundtracks get no protection from 3rd party revisionist manipulation.

+10000
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post #101 of 171
6/3/12 at 12:53pm
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The Matrix only recently had a green tint.
Color timing and Soundtracks get no protection from 3rd party revisionist manipulation.

Radical manipulation of the image comes at the behest of the filmmaker. Also the bitching about contrast boosting wherein actuality theatrical release prints are high contrast versions of the movie.
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post #102 of 171
6/3/12 at 2:30pm
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Radical manipulation of the image comes at the behest of the filmmaker. Also the bitching about contrast boosting wherein actuality theatrical release prints are high contrast versions of the movie.

Yes, warner checked with every filmmaker before bluray releases even the dead ones
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post #103 of 171
6/3/12 at 2:33pm
They're very good about that.
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post #104 of 171
6/3/12 at 2:41pm
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They're very good about that.

That is why there are so many mediums in LA
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post #105 of 171
6/3/12 at 4:38pm
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Yes, warner checked with every filmmaker before bluray releases even the dead ones

I hate how Kubrick's films are represented on Blu-ray.
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post #106 of 171
6/3/12 at 5:06pm
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I hate how Kubrick's films are represented on Blu-ray.

Then your previous statement makes no sense
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post #107 of 171
6/3/12 at 5:20pm
You brought up Warner and dead filmmakers letting you know that's the only exception to the rule for me.
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post #108 of 171
6/4/12 at 10:51am
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Each decade presents "trends" in color timing. They're usually based on the limitations of technology and, the visual tone of present day movie making. Someone brought up 80s movies being primarily yellow-red cast and, these transfers were brighter. Ridley Scott prefers "contemporary color trends" whenever given the opportunity to further manipulate the visual for the current generation and, the latest format, it's completely in his wheelhouse.

Cameron loves blue Michael Mann started it first blue. Now cyan isn't dynamic enough when compared to the green tone dominating teal. All of the stay-at-home auteur's and, armchair cinematographers complaining about color trends, should find a new cause. Does anyone remember green in the post-Matrix era of new production?

It's bad enough that almost all modern movies are teal and orange, but that's something I can make peace with (though I don't have to like it). However, recoloring older movies to fit into modern color grading trends is pure revisionism, and no better than colorizing black & white movies or cropping Academy Ratio films to widescreen.
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post #109 of 171
6/4/12 at 12:05pm
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It's bad enough that almost all modern movies are teal and orange, but that's something I can make peace with (though I don't have to like it). However, recoloring older movies to fit into modern color grading trends is pure revisionism, and no better than colorizing black & white movies or cropping Academy Ratio films to widescreen.

There's a thread over at DVDTalk in the movies forum about this trend. The great majority of them either like it or don't care so I guess this fad isn't going away anytime soon.
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post #110 of 171
6/4/12 at 12:09pm
I think the only movie that benefited from re-color timing was Blade Runner, the final cut. I think it really 'enhances' the world of BR...on another note, Aliens is not so good, but very acceptable coming from the overly pinkish LD/DVD's....let's remember folks; YMMV!
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post #111 of 171
6/4/12 at 12:18pm
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I think the only movie that benefited from re-color timing was Blade Runner, the final cut. I think it really 'enhances' the world of BR...on another note, Aliens is not so good, but very acceptable coming from the overly pinkish LD/DVD's....let's remember folks; YMMV!

Dear god no, on both
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post #112 of 171
6/4/12 at 12:49pm
Just watched Alien and Aliens over the weekend in preparation for Prometheus (yes, even though it is a prequel). While it is my preference that films not be regraded to suit modern audiences, at no point during Aliens was the change in color distracting... We're talking about a film that already abuses the sh*t out of colored lighting schemes, almost to cartoon levels. I just have to remind myself that it could always be worse, but it rarely gets better.

At least none of the Aliens blinked this time around...
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post #113 of 171
6/4/12 at 1:28pm
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Just watched Alien and Aliens over the weekend in preparation for Prometheus (yes, even though it is a prequel). While it is my preference that films not be regraded to suit modern audiences, at no point during Aliens was the change in color distracting... We're talking about a film that already abuses the sh*t out of colored lighting schemes, almost to cartoon levels. I just have to remind myself that it could always be worse, but it rarely gets better.

At least none of the Aliens blinked this time around...

Should have watched alien after, it feels better not to watch it before but after
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post #114 of 171
6/4/12 at 2:15pm
Watch Alien after, to get the stink out of your eyes...
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post #115 of 171
6/5/12 at 3:48am
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Watch Alien after, to get the stink out of your eyes...

I liked it, it's far from perfect but I liked it
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post #116 of 171
6/5/12 at 5:13am
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Watch Alien after, to get the stink out of your eyes...

Are you referring to watching Alien after Prometheus? Or after Aliens? One of those two stinks?
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post #117 of 171
6/5/12 at 5:38am
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Are you referring to watching Alien after Prometheus? Or after Aliens? One of those two stinks?

I think he means the color scheme in Aliens.
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post #118 of 171
7/7/12 at 2:50pm
From Bill Hunt today:

Also, a couple of you have asked for an update on the possible BD release of James Cameron's True Lies and The Abyss. So we've confirmed with the studio that they are working on the films and that there are plans in place to release them on Blu-ray... eventually. But our best guess is that you'll see them both on Blu in 2014, possibly as part of the build-up to the eventual theatrical release of Cameron's planned Avatar 2. Why 2014? Well... as it turns out, both films celebrate major anniversaries that year (True Lies = 20th and Abyss = 25th). We'd love to see them in 2013 of course, but given how long fans have already waited (and how long Cameron takes to sign off on these things) we'd be surprised to see them sooner. Just calling it like we see it.

I get a bad feeling he is probably right here....frown.gif
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post #119 of 171
7/7/12 at 3:02pm
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From Bill Hunt today:

Also, a couple of you have asked for an update on the possible BD release of James Cameron's True Lies and The Abyss. So we've confirmed with the studio that they are working on the films and that there are plans in place to release them on Blu-ray... eventually. But our best guess is that you'll see them both on Blu in 2014, possibly as part of the build-up to the eventual theatrical release of Cameron's planned Avatar 2. Why 2014? Well... as it turns out, both films celebrate major anniversaries that year (True Lies = 20th and Abyss = 25th). We'd love to see them in 2013 of course, but given how long fans have already waited (and how long Cameron takes to sign off on these things) we'd be surprised to see them sooner. Just calling it like we see it.
I get a bad feeling he is probably right here....frown.gif
Bill Hunt presents "Guessing is fun"?
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post #120 of 171
7/8/12 at 8:52am
True Lies is 20 next year?

Jesus, I'm old.
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