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post #31 of 129
6/20/12 at 7:10pm
Ordered my 65lm6200 through amazon won't be delivered till Monday. has anybody had theirs calibrated and if so have they posted their results? I am coming from a Samsung ln52A650 that's currently in a rebooting loop. I was on the fence with this and a 65vt50 but I figure I would try this first as I like the passive 3d better then active. How are the black levels compare to a 2006 Samsung LCD? I know the vt50 will own all Tvs in the black levels minus the infamous kuro and elites.
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post #32 of 129
6/20/12 at 8:35pm
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On Amazon, the Sony is $500 more than the Lg right now (the Lg 65lm6200 is just $50 or so above the lowest price I got from them) so not sure what prices you are referring.
I agree that you should strongly consider just pushing it out a bit as the tv is very slim.
I also think you would really enjoy all of the 3D content available through the Lg apps.
Shelly

Dell has the Sony for $2200 right now.
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post #33 of 129
6/20/12 at 8:40pm
Hi all - can anyone comment on how glossy the screen is on the 65" model? My living room gets a lot of sunlight during the day. I'm thinking about picking this up but I heard the 2011 screens are more matted. Thanks!
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post #34 of 129
6/22/12 at 5:31am
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Hi all - can anyone comment on how glossy the screen is on the 65" model? My living room gets a lot of sunlight during the day. I'm thinking about picking this up but I heard the 2011 screens are more matted. Thanks!
It's definitely the worst thing about the television. The pros still outweigh this one con, but my gf was pressuring me to return it and get anything with a matte screen.


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post #35 of 129
6/23/12 at 6:31am
Set delivered yesterday from PC Richards. Got the 65 inch model. Paid $2400 plus tax. Could have ordered from Amazon to save tax probably but we bought a washer/dryer in the store at same time and they cut a few bucks from that to help us out.

Love the look of the set. Thin lines, and yes it does have a black stand. The set swivels nicely on the stand and it feels well balanced and secure. It's a big set so make sure you have the room for it and more importantly, the correct viewing distance.

Very easy setup and the magic wand type remote is nice...except I tend to lose the cursor for a few seconds sometimes. It does come back when you move it or shake it again, but sometimes it disappears for a second or two after making a selection. I noticed this when I was playing with the video settings. I have not had time to explore the apps, but I did check out the 2D-3D transition on an ESPN Euro Soccer game. It seems pretty good, but it didn't wow me. When the players are in motion it is hard to tell it is 3D. On closeup shots you can really see the effect, so I suppose for sports it may not be a good choice. I will try a movie or tv show to see how they look. Video games could look awesome I suppose. The glasses are light and I didn't feel any eye fatigue or anything. Everyone is different in their vision and tolerances so hard to generalize about this.

There are a good set of pre-set picture settings and a few where you can sort of create your own. You can modify any of them and overall I don't think you'll need to do a ton of configuring to get an excellent setting. I am coming off a 55 inch Samsung that is about 3 years old, and was used to having to dive into the various areas to tweak the colors, etc. This set seems very good right out of the box. Again, we all see and prefer different types of settings and this set will allow you to choose from a variety or tweak your heart out. I did notice just a slight green push with the standard setting but I went through the Wizard which allowed me to compare my screen against a preferred background screen and try to match it by changing settings. This worked very well and did get rid of the slightly higher green level. But I must admit, the grass at Yankee Stadium looked awesome!

Overall, I really like the video quality. The colors are rich and the picture does seem to pop to me, but again, that effect is based on how you have your settings and what you are used to in the past. I am very happy with it so far and will continue exploring and adding anything worth mentioning here.

If you are thinking of this set, I would definitely recommend it. You can probably do better on price than I did, but it was a Father's Day gift and my wife wanted me to pull the trigger (so to speak) then and there.

C
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post #36 of 129
6/23/12 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by capa2000 View Post

Set delivered yesterday from PC Richards. Got the 65 inch model. Paid $2400 plus tax. Could have ordered from Amazon to save tax probably but we bought a washer/dryer in the store at same time and they cut a few bucks from that to help us out.
Love the look of the set. Thin lines, and yes it does have a black stand. The set swivels nicely on the stand and it feels well balanced and secure. It's a big set so make sure you have the room for it and more importantly, the correct viewing distance.
Very easy setup and the magic wand type remote is nice...except I tend to lose the cursor for a few seconds sometimes. It does come back when you move it or shake it again, but sometimes it disappears for a second or two after making a selection. I noticed this when I was playing with the video settings. I have not had time to explore the apps, but I did check out the 2D-3D transition on an ESPN Euro Soccer game. It seems pretty good, but it didn't wow me. When the players are in motion it is hard to tell it is 3D. On closeup shots you can really see the effect, so I suppose for sports it may not be a good choice. I will try a movie or tv show to see how they look. Video games could look awesome I suppose. The glasses are light and I didn't feel any eye fatigue or anything. Everyone is different in their vision and tolerances so hard to generalize about this.
There are a good set of pre-set picture settings and a few where you can sort of create your own. You can modify any of them and overall I don't think you'll need to do a ton of configuring to get an excellent setting. I am coming off a 55 inch Samsung that is about 3 years old, and was used to having to dive into the various areas to tweak the colors, etc. This set seems very good right out of the box. Again, we all see and prefer different types of settings and this set will allow you to choose from a variety or tweak your heart out. I did notice just a slight green push with the standard setting but I went through the Wizard which allowed me to compare my screen against a preferred background screen and try to match it by changing settings. This worked very well and did get rid of the slightly higher green level. But I must admit, the grass at Yankee Stadium looked awesome!
Overall, I really like the video quality. The colors are rich and the picture does seem to pop to me, but again, that effect is based on how you have your settings and what you are used to in the past. I am very happy with it so far and will continue exploring and adding anything worth mentioning here.
If you are thinking of this set, I would definitely recommend it. You can probably do better on price than I did, but it was a Father's Day gift and my wife wanted me to pull the trigger (so to speak) then and there.
C

Can you comment on the viewing angles?
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post #37 of 129
6/24/12 at 12:05pm
I am considering the 65lm6200 and have a similar concern. The 6200 series is edge lit with out local dimming. I am also considering the 55lm6700 which has local diming and is 1,000 less expensive. Now I am wondering your thoughts about the local dimming. Do you feel you gave up some picture quality for size in the 65lm6200? Was this a pre purchase debate in your decision at all? Does size trump difference (if any) in black level? Any thoughts of observations on this would be appreciated.
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post #38 of 129
6/24/12 at 4:34pm
I will admit I am not quite as knowledgeable about the whole video scene as the rest of you here. I went with the 65 inch because I have a fairly large room, and although the 55 inch Samsung was sufficient, I found myself thinking how great it would be to sort of "max out" the room (based on size) with something a little bigger. We were looking for a Father's day gift for me, and I do tend to get a new tv every 3-4 years, so my wife knew what to expect (half the battle) and was ok with whatever I wanted. Did I need it? No. Did I want it? Yes...but even after buying I had a little buyer's remorse...not for anything having to do with the set itself, just the $$ factor.

My viewing habits are pretty much restricted to HDTV, sports, gaming, and an occasional dvd or online movie (that may change with this set!!).

To answer a previous post, I sit almost exactly 11 feet from the screen and just about dead center. The recliner that sits in this room is about 6-7 feet off to my left and just about the same distance from the screen. I don't really know how to quantify this in "angle" terms, but the picture does not lose any crispness from this chair. I will admit, that our room is configured so that people will not be sitting way off to the side of the set...I'd say the maximum angle would be fairly slight.

Black levels seem to be about as best as you can expect with an LED set. The good news is there is a lot of choices in freedom in configuring the settings. However, we all have our points that are most important to us, and if quality of blacks is one of yours, the set may fall a tad bit short. I don't think with a back lit LED you can get the really deep blacks and you may see some "noise" in them, especially with the bigger sets. I really have not seen much on this set and I have been looking. The blacks do look deep and rich, but it could be the quality of the HD channel I am watching...YMMV.

55 vs 65? That's a toughie...I am usually in the bigger is better category, but you may be able to reign in a tighter picture on the 55 which might be a tad more forgiving when viewing.

That being said, I am still extremely satisfied with my purchase. It's a solid set, a great quality picture with tons of options and easy to configure to your liking. However, it is not a top of the line, not even for LG. You can do better on picture quality elsewhere, but the price point drew me in at the time. They threw in 6 more glasses for me which is basically a giveaway, I know, but about a $100 value. I might have done better elsewhere, but as I said in previous post, we had other purchases in the store that day that they cut some $$ on for us.

I wish I could be a bit more technical for you all...but if you have other questions I'll see what I can do...

Chris
Edited by capa2000 - 6/24/12 at 5:30pm
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post #39 of 129
6/24/12 at 5:54pm
Thanks Chris, I appreciate your reply. I'm coming from a 9 year old Panasonic Plasma that is perfectly fine, but have the itch for something new too. Most viewing will be from Dish networks Hopper (which is fantastic by the way). and PS3 for DVD and games, and we get netflix through it also. all connected to a Denon receiver and one HDMI cable up to the TV. The reviews are all driving me crazy. So many are dead set on the panasonic st50 and gt 50 as the "Clearly superior picture and the go-to sets above all others. But when I look at them at Frys and BB,,,ok regular viewing is good but really not a whole lot different than my 9 year old plasma. However when I put on their glasses,,,WHOAH, the picture gets way dim, not a little but annoyingly dim. Alfer just a couple of minutes in the store I am ready to take them off , just not fun to look through, more like something that I have to endure rather than get emersed in the visuals and the story..

The LG, 3d is like , oh yeah, easy simple comfortable. I could settle back and watch this way for a whole movie.
Reading all and I mean all the LG reviews and LED in general, the reviewers make such a play that "Ya got to have local dimming". Only way to be happy with Led. Full screen is better but AT LEAST EDGE LIT LOCAL DIMMING, tvs with out it are almost not worth considering. I take it that all you lucky 6200 owners are satisfied with no local dimming in the set. Do you think this is an issue or just a minor attibute that is being emphasized way too strongly in the reviews out there ??

Any discussion here will be appreciated.
thanks David
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post #40 of 129
6/25/12 at 12:14am
Can someone that has the 65" model please let me know the distance from the front of the stand to the front of the screen? I know the TV measures about 14" with that stand, but wanted to know how far back the screen actually sits from the from the front of the stand. I'm trying to figure out how to set up the TV in my media niche in order for the TV to be visible from all sides of the room and the screen is not too far back in the media niche area.
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post #41 of 129
6/25/12 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

Can someone that has the 65" model please let me know the distance from the front of the stand to the front of the screen? I know the TV measures about 14" with that stand, but wanted to know how far back the screen actually sits from the from the front of the stand. I'm trying to figure out how to set up the TV in my media niche in order for the TV to be visible from all sides of the room and the screen is not too far back in the media niche area.

I measured 6.5 inches from the very front of the stand to the screen,

C
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post #42 of 129
6/25/12 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by dbmcelroy View Post

Thanks Chris, I appreciate your reply. I'm coming from a 9 year old Panasonic Plasma that is perfectly fine, but have the itch for something new too. Most viewing will be from Dish networks Hopper (which is fantastic by the way). and PS3 for DVD and games, and we get netflix through it also. all connected to a Denon receiver and one HDMI cable up to the TV. The reviews are all driving me crazy. So many are dead set on the panasonic st50 and gt 50 as the "Clearly superior picture and the go-to sets above all others. But when I look at them at Frys and BB,,,ok regular viewing is good but really not a whole lot different than my 9 year old plasma. However when I put on their glasses,,,WHOAH, the picture gets way dim, not a little but annoyingly dim. Alfer just a couple of minutes in the store I am ready to take them off , just not fun to look through, more like something that I have to endure rather than get emersed in the visuals and the story..
The LG, 3d is like , oh yeah, easy simple comfortable. I could settle back and watch this way for a whole movie.
Reading all and I mean all the LG reviews and LED in general, the reviewers make such a play that "Ya got to have local dimming". Only way to be happy with Led. Full screen is better but AT LEAST EDGE LIT LOCAL DIMMING, tvs with out it are almost not worth considering. I take it that all you lucky 6200 owners are satisfied with no local dimming in the set. Do you think this is an issue or just a minor attibute that is being emphasized way too strongly in the reviews out there ??
Any discussion here will be appreciated.
thanks David

My opinion is it really depends on the variation of brightness in your room. If wild swings, then yes it is probably more important. However, the 6200 allows you to set different personal settings, so you could easily have one for dark room and one for when room is brighter (night vs day). That being said, I think the "you must have this feature" is a bit overblown.

Chris
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post #43 of 129
6/26/12 at 10:39am
Does anyone know if this set can play MKV files by using a flash drive with the USB port?
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post #44 of 129
6/27/12 at 11:14am
Did a factory reset correct this problem. My 55" LG goes all black when I hit the home button when watching cable/ant? As well do you have any problems with the audio - my speakers appears to sound very bad when voulme is above 15 - sounds like they are blown and I have never had it pass 1/2
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post #45 of 129
6/27/12 at 11:23am
yes. I have a 1.5 TB HDD USB 3.0 that contains mkv files and it worked fine.
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post #46 of 129
6/27/12 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by troygwells View Post

yes. I have a 1.5 TB HDD USB 3.0 that contains mkv files and it worked fine.

Thanks for the info. That will probably make my decision easier now to go with the LG instead of the Sony 65HX729 since that set won't do mkv files. By the way there is no issue with audio and you don't have to re-encode them at all before playing them on the LG?
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post #47 of 129
6/28/12 at 4:03am
I am becoming less enchanted by the set. When watching HDTV channels, I often see big fluctuations in color saturation. In other words, I am watching a show and when they go from one scene to another the colors can appear to "wash out"...become almost cloudy and with no pop. Then, in the next scene, they look fine again. I don't know if it is an auto adjustment thing the set is doing or what. I don't think so. I have it on Expert settings where I tweaked some things and I even think Energy Savings is in an off mode since I adjusted the Backlight option.

It is very hard to get consistency in colors across the board on this set...they seem to vary from station to station and just when I think I have them pegged, I switch channels and the PQ goes way down. I know some of this may be due to the actual broadcast quality at times...some stations are worse than others (TBS and TNT are particularly bad), but on a set this size all imperfections are easy to spot!

Lastly, I do see some artifacting in dark scenes...where the black background sort of gets pixelized a bit. Again, this seems to be on only some channels. By the way, judder when panning in a scene seems prevalent. What setting cuts down on this?

Chris
Edited by capa2000 - 6/28/12 at 4:49am
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post #48 of 129
6/28/12 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by troygwells View Post

Did a factory reset correct this problem. My 55" LG goes all black when I hit the home button when watching cable/ant? As well do you have any problems with the audio - my speakers appears to sound very bad when voulme is above 15 - sounds like they are blown and I have never had it pass 1/2


I dont suppose there's any way to save the TV's settings to usb flash drive and then be able to restore them all after a factory reset? smart tv should be able to do that?
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post #49 of 129
6/28/12 at 6:28pm
^^^a little less techy but one could just write 'em down.
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post #50 of 129
6/29/12 at 9:50am
Ok So i receive the 65LM6200 Monday from Amazon, great shipping experience! On to the TV get it out of the Box set it all up dialed down the backlight to the low 40s 50s and used several configurations i found on the net and it looked ok...Tested the blacks at night and it was AWEFULL! flashlight and clouding everywhere and then on top of that just couldnt get the colors to where they should be just like the previous post it seemed to have changed PQ by comercials or different scenes that i was watching.... Tried out the 3d Loved it! but is the sacrafice of Great 3d justifiable for poor 2d? NO and WTF is up with the black gloss mirrror of a screen. SO in conclusion a few hours ago i just watched my LG go out the door followed up with a Panasonic 65GT50 OMG what a picture out of the box! and less reflection then the LG LED (scratching head) Good luck LM6200 owners! heres a review of the LM6200 and they really focus on the color issues we are experiencing http://revision3.com/hdnation/lg-lm6200
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post #51 of 129
6/29/12 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by kjplaysguitar View Post

Ok So i receive the 65LM6200 Monday from Amazon, great shipping experience! On to the TV get it out of the Box set it all up dialed down the backlight to the low 40s 50s and used several configurations i found on the net and it looked ok...Tested the blacks at night and it was AWEFULL! flashlight and clouding everywhere and then on top of that just couldnt get the colors to where they should be just like the previous post it seemed to have changed PQ by comercials or different scenes that i was watching.... Tried out the 3d Loved it! but is the sacrafice of Great 3d justifiable for poor 2d? NO and WTF is up with the black gloss mirrror of a screen. SO in conclusion a few hours ago i just watched my LG go out the door followed up with a Panasonic 65GT50 OMG what a picture out of the box! and less reflection then the LG LED (scratching head) Good luck LM6200 owners! heres a review of the LM6200 and they really focus on the color issues we are experiencing http://revision3.com/hdnation/lg-lm6200

So the picture issue bothered you that much that you jumped shipped and went with another brand. I'm right now considering this or the Sony 65HX729 and I think this and the Sony will probably have similar issues as far as colors go, but since I'm not really into video settings since I just want something better than my 65" Toshiba DLP at this time at a reasonable price.
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post #52 of 129
6/29/12 at 2:56pm
And here I thought that my new 65LM6200 was a great tv--accurate flesh tones, vibrant colors, top notch 3D and wonderful apps and cursor mode remote. Reading the negative experiences here lately might make me reconsider if I didn't know what I see.

I come from a Toshiba 65" dlp and the picture of this set is so much better. I also have a 1080p front projector (actually my 3rd) and the LG tv has better blacks and clearer picture and that's saying a lot as the front projector has a fantastic picture.

I adjust my sets using the shopping network channels like QVC or HSN as they have a live video feed with the most realistic colors and flesh tones. Cut back on the red push a bit, get some deeper green, a tweak of a setting here and there, and Trumotion at a comfortable 3,3 to help distinguish video from film without sacrificing any focus.

No clouding, great blacks, lots of settings to dial in the picture for day or night.

Of course, colors and picture quality change from channel to channel but that's not the fault of this tv.

Anyway, I am so glad to have purchased this set at the $2350 delivered price point.

Shelly
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post #53 of 129
6/29/12 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by shelly View Post

And here I thought that my new 65LM6200 was a great tv--accurate flesh tones, vibrant colors, top notch 3D and wonderful apps and cursor mode remote. Reading the negative experiences here lately might make me reconsider if I didn't know what I see.
I come from a Toshiba 65" dlp and the picture of this set is so much better. I also have a 1080p front projector (actually my 3rd) and the LG tv has better blacks and clearer picture and that's saying a lot as the front projector has a fantastic picture.
I adjust my sets using the shopping network channels like QVC or HSN as they have a live video feed with the most realistic colors and flesh tones. Cut back on the red push a bit, get some deeper green, a tweak of a setting here and there, and Trumotion at a comfortable 3,3 to help distinguish video from film without sacrificing any focus.
No clouding, great blacks, lots of settings to dial in the picture for day or night.
Of course, colors and picture quality change from channel to channel but that's not the fault of this tv.
Anyway, I am so glad to have purchased this set at the $2350 delivered price point.
Shelly

Thanks for your quick review. I think I will move forward and get this set especially for the price point and majority of people that seem to like it. I checked one out at Fry's and noticed that the side angle viewing was pretty good compared to the Sony 65HX729. That set went pretty dark after moving to the side a bit, but the LG was not nearly as bad as the Sony. I think coming from a DLP myself this set will definitely be a big jump in picture improvement.
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post #54 of 129
6/30/12 at 5:40am
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Originally Posted by shelly View Post

And here I thought that my new 65LM6200 was a great tv--accurate flesh tones, vibrant colors, top notch 3D and wonderful apps and cursor mode remote. Reading the negative experiences here lately might make me reconsider if I didn't know what I see.
I come from a Toshiba 65" dlp and the picture of this set is so much better. I also have a 1080p front projector (actually my 3rd) and the LG tv has better blacks and clearer picture and that's saying a lot as the front projector has a fantastic picture.
I adjust my sets using the shopping network channels like QVC or HSN as they have a live video feed with the most realistic colors and flesh tones. Cut back on the red push a bit, get some deeper green, a tweak of a setting here and there, and Trumotion at a comfortable 3,3 to help distinguish video from film without sacrificing any focus.
No clouding, great blacks, lots of settings to dial in the picture for day or night.
Of course, colors and picture quality change from channel to channel but that's not the fault of this tv.
Anyway, I am so glad to have purchased this set at the $2350 delivered price point.
Shelly

We all have different tastes and experiences based on our source. Glad you are extremely pleased with your set. Why don't you post your settings so others who may not be quite as satisfied?
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post #55 of 129
6/30/12 at 6:26pm
I calibrated my 65" with the Disney WoW disc.

Backlight: 40
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 52
Sharpness: 25
Color: 51
Tint: G3
Color Temp: 0

Advanced Controls: All off; Gamma High
Picture Option: All off; Black Level Low
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post #56 of 129
7/7/12 at 6:44am
The flesh tones just don't look right on HDTV. A little pale or washed out. Going to try the Disney Wow dvd but I am not sure that will make a big difference.

I have a love/hate relationship with this set...it's so close to being great. I hope there is a firmware update for colors and tint at some point...but not holding out too much hope.

C
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post #57 of 129
7/8/12 at 10:21pm
Well I just ordered the 65 inch from Amazon and it will be here Thursday. I am replacing DLP TV in my upstairs TV room so this will be an improvement. I have done all the research and read the good and bad reviews and I think this set will be the best for me. I was torn between the LG, the Sharp 70c870 and the Panasonic ST50. My wife and my grand children play games a lot in this room so I was very concerned about the burn in possibility with the plasma. I finally decided my eyes like the passive 3D better than the active so I went with this set.

I am looking forward to getting it setup and seeing what it looks like in my room, as opposed to a show room floor. I tried to buy local but they just wouldn't come down to a reasonable price so Amazon won out. After I get it setup and tweaked I'll come back with my impressions.


Earl
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post #58 of 129
7/9/12 at 1:05pm
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I was torn between the LG, the Sharp 70c870 and the Panasonic ST50.l

Aren't we all... Good choice if 3D is important to you.

I'm still holding out for a larger set from LG.. Maybe next year..
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post #59 of 129
7/9/12 at 3:11pm
I just purchased this set Sunday, I went through the Sharp Aquos Quattron 847 and Samsung 6100..both 60 inch sets, returning both. Was not happy with either, although the samsung could have been acceptable if I spent more time playing with settings. I love the LG 65 so far. I did notice a bit of haziness at night in the corners, but I havent had a chance to play with it much. The glare is tough, but it wasn't any better on the Sharp or Samsung who's screens were more matte. I agree the fleshtones are a bit pale in HD, I played with the "skin" settings and made it slightly better(-3). I am going to use the WOW disk this weekend to see what I can change. I can say without a doubt, in my opinion this has the best LED picture I have seen at this price point.
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7/9/12 at 4:08pm
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I just purchased this set Sunday, I went through the Sharp Aquos Quattron 847 and Samsung 6100..both 60 inch sets, returning both. Was not happy with either, although the samsung could have been acceptable if I spent more time playing with settings. I love the LG 65 so far. I did notice a bit of haziness at night in the corners, but I havent had a chance to play with it much. The glare is tough, but it wasn't any better on the Sharp or Samsung who's screens were more matte. I agree the fleshtones are a bit pale in HD, I played with the "skin" settings and made it slightly better(-3). I am going to use the WOW disk this weekend to see what I can change. I can say without a doubt, in my opinion this has the best LED picture I have seen at this price point.

Please post your setting after tweaking with WoW...

Chris
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