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post #31 of 45
5/22/12 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by WiWavelength View Post

Come on, Chris, get with the program. Where is your righteous indignation? If I need it, then EVERYONE needs it. And anyone who is willing to live without it is not the power user that I am.



AJ

yea aj, i know... i really need to gripe more...

got any buggy whips?
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post #32 of 45
5/22/12 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

somehow, i don't find "talk radio" to be a "sound quality" application...

Oh, I would absolutely drool if I could get Rush Limbaugh in 7.1 surround sound!!

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post #33 of 45
5/22/12 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

of course, it is always possible that denon HAS done their market research, and you guys are outliers...

just something to consider...

I can't see considerable savings using a non am tuner over a fm. IF denon did indeed do any market research, they would find people at least in ca like am radio. However, I do not tune into any analog ota programming in my house. I either stream siriusxm ir or play media from my library.

I just don't see a lot of people sitting at home jamming to fm/am on home receivers these days. It still doesn't make sense to just omit the am tuner lol.

I'll reserve my judgement on Denon when I see the legit specs on their top tier stuff. I don't think the low end market avr should be packed with a whole lot of features anyhow (below $500).
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post #34 of 45
5/22/12 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by PeterK View Post

Website shows the 3313 at 26.5#, 2313 at 24# and the 2113 at 20.9#. My current receiver is 64#. They just may have reduced the power supply some more! ;-) I sure do like the new design from the pictures.

This is not really anything new. The 2308 was 28lbs and then it dropped every year till the 2311. The 2311 thru 2313 have all been around 24lbs. Same with the 33 series. The 3310 was 28 and then the 3311 dropped to 26 and they have been 26 ever since.
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post #35 of 45
5/22/12 at 9:58am
The problem of omitting AM broadcasts is that sports is often still broadcast on AM in some markets and are not available for streaming (usually). All other programming is usually streamed these days by most stations with a few exceptions.
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post #36 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:09am
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Oh, I would absolutely drool if I could get Rush Limbaugh in 7.1 surround sound!!


struggling to refrain from commenting...
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post #37 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Nethawk View Post

Oh, I would absolutely drool if I could get Rush Limbaugh in 7.1 surround sound!!


The way he is going, he will be lucky to have a podcast.
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post #38 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:17am
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Oh, I would absolutely drool if I could get Rush Limbaugh in 7.1 surround sound!!


I'd love it. He's right 99.7% of the time
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post #39 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:33am
on the 3313, the loudspeaker icons on the right side are for input AND for output signals. please look on the product picture on the Denon Website, there is a little icon over the loudspeaker icons that shows IN.
and now go to YouTube and look on the display in the presentation on the High End in Munich, there is an OUT Symbol.

new on the Denon is the Info Button. I believe this button implements an input Icon Set and the Incoming Signal Name on the second Matrix line (like Dolby True HD), and toggle with Outgoing Icon Set and the used Decoder or Configuration (like Stereo or Dolby PLIIx Cinema).

thats better than the Displays of the opponents where always max one Configuration is showing (Pioneer always incoming, Yamahe now only outgoing), but sadly not so comfortable like the former Denon Displays with both configurations.
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post #40 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by Nethawk View Post

Oh, I would absolutely drool if I could get Rush Limbaugh in 7.1 surround sound!!


Well, really, it would be more like 4.1 channel surround. L, SL, and SBL would not be used, as the mix would be highly imbalanced, skewed hard to the right.

AJ
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post #41 of 45
5/22/12 at 10:55am
^^^

3.1, cuz rush don't believe in a "center"...
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post #42 of 45
5/22/12 at 11:29am
^^^

.1 cuz rush is sub-human!

Or 0.0 cuz his voice will never broadcast in my house.

Take your pick.
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post #43 of 45
5/22/12 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Maybe you guys should write Denon. It appears they are taking no user input for their decisions.

post on their DenonUSA facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/media/albums...867#!/denonusa
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post #44 of 45
5/22/12 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post


post on their DenonUSA facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/media/albums...867#!/denonusa

That link is not working right for me but I'll share this experience... last night on Denon Australia's Facebook page questions posted by myself and others about upcoming "AVR-4313", Denon Link HD. DBT-1713 and DBT-3313 were actually replied to by Denon representative/employee! In contrast, Denon USA's Facebook page has had no posts or replies from the company for 2 weeks at least. Denon Australia seems more engaged with customers...
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post #45 of 45
5/22/12 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

3.1, cuz rush don't believe in a "center"...

Well he does so..........he's often the center of controversial issues
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