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post #6391 of 6830
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Originally Posted by scottlindner View Post

I have not done this, but I know people that have solved this exact problem with satellite systems already using the tools I mentioned in my previous post. The IR Blaster (or whatever the modern tech is called) will change the channel for you. It mimics a remote control. That's how it works. The biggest problem is if you want multiple tuners, then you need multiple units, multiple blasters, etc. People are using high quality analog capture devices that work just like this as a way to circumvent the need for CableCard using an approach I described. It works very well, and people seem to be satisified with it, even though you're going Digital to Analog to Digital.

Scott

Hmmm. There must be some sort of timer that can be used to comand the controller to issue a channel change?
post #6392 of 6830
Here's an interesting question and answer from the Comcast Augusta GA digital upgrade program. Looks like encryption with higher fees could be in the future once the digital conversion is complete.

"Q. What if I have a digital TV set, such as one using a QAM tuner? Do I still need to use a digital device or CableCARD?
A. Digital QAM tuner TVs will be able to continue to receive Limited Basic cable channels without requiring a digital device. At the completion of our digital transition, which is anticipated to occur shortly after the February 1, 2010 transition date, Expanded Basic channels will be encrypted for security purposes. At that time, all televisions, including those using QAM tuners, will not be able to view Expanded Basic channels without a digital device or CableCARD. So we recommend that customers use a digital device or CableCARD for all TVs."

http://www.comcast.com/dtaaugusta/faqs.html

There was a fair amount of discussion on this over on the AVS Comcast thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...24081&page=339
post #6393 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

Hmmm. There must be some sort of timer that can be used to comand the controller to issue a channel change?

I see where you're missing it. Some DVRs and certainly any PC will have the connections to connec the "Blaster" to it. So the DVR changes the channel for you.

Scott
post #6394 of 6830
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Originally Posted by scottlindner View Post

I see where you're missing it. Some DVRs and certainly any PC will have the connections to connec the "Blaster" to it. So the DVR changes the channel for you.

Scott

I guess my adled brain is not catching it. I thought the channel change was being done by the DTA or other cable company provided box (unless a CableCard is used). If that is so, then the DVR and/or TV will have to be set to Ch 3 or 4. There will be no channel changing by the DVR/TV unless the IR Blaster changes the channel on the cable box. The cable converts and sends a Channel 18, 23, 42, etc, signal over what appears to be Ch 3/4 to the DVR/TV. As far as the DVR is concerned it only sees a Channel 3/4 signal. Am I confused?
post #6395 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

... unless the IR Blaster changes the channel on the cable box.

That is exactly what the IR blaster does.
post #6396 of 6830
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Originally Posted by GatoViejo View Post

That is exactly what the IR blaster does.

But, does the IR blaster have a timer function? Can I program the IR blaster to change channels at a particular time? Say record on Ch 8 at 7PM and Ch 46 at 8PM? Otherwise I'd have to be there to change the channel. Are there any manufacturers and/or models I should look at to get an idea of how they work? Thanks for any information.

On another note, I saw an interesting article on Free to Air (FTA) satellite TV in Monitoring Times. There was dicussion on the Pansat 200HD receiver - Cool. I was wondering what receiver and antenna you were using for your PBS reception. Also, do you watch any other channels? Finally, can one still subscribe to encrypted channels (paying a fee for the service of course). I'm wondering if a Ku-Band system might be the way to go instead of cable or Dish/DirecTV.

Cheers
post #6397 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

Are there any manufacturers and/or models I should look at to get an idea of how they work? Thanks for any information.

This is the most popular one: usb-uirt
post #6398 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

But, does the IR blaster have a timer function? Can I program the IR blaster to change channels at a particular time? Say record on Ch 8 at 7PM and Ch 46 at 8PM? Otherwise I'd have to be there to change the channel. Are there any manufacturers and/or models I should look at to get an idea of how they work? Thanks for any information.

On another note, I saw an interesting article on Free to Air (FTA) satellite TV in Monitoring Times. There was dicussion on the Pansat 200HD receiver - Cool. I was wondering what receiver and antenna you were using for your PBS reception. Also, do you watch any other channels? Finally, can one still subscribe to encrypted channels (paying a fee for the service of course). I'm wondering if a Ku-Band system might be the way to go instead of cable or Dish/DirecTV.

Cheers

Your DVR does that. You don't have to be there to change channels, that's what your DVR does. All this IR device does is send the IR to the tuner box so the channel can be changed. It's a dumb device. It's kinda like telling your DVR to pick up the remote and change the channel. If you build an HTPC to act as your DVR you definitely can do this. As for regular DVRs, you'll need to check if it supports an external IR function for changing channels on your tuner box. So for finding what you want, check your DVR product information to see what it supports.

I'm using an Antennas Direct ClearStream 4 antenna in my attic pointed directly at Cheyenne Mountain. I have clear line of sight. It looks bigger in the pictures than it really is. It's about 1ft high by 2ft wide. I could have gone much larger in my attic, but I'm glad I didn't because my reception is perfect even in really bad weather. I watch the following OTA stations. Rather, these are the ones that I didn't hide, so I can't really say that I watch them, but more that they didn't annoy me enough to hide them. Here's the list: 5.1, 5.2, 8.1, 8.3, 11.1, 11.2, 11.3, 12.1, 12.2, 12.3, 13.1, 21.1, 21.2.

Scott
post #6399 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

I was wondering what receiver and antenna you were using for your PBS reception. Also, do you watch any other channels?

Dish:http://www.wsidigital.com/ws9036-90c...llite-dish.htm

LNB:http://www.wsidigital.com/dmx521-sin...gital-lnbf.htm

Receiver:http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/W...e_Receiver.htm

I do not have a dish motor so I am pointed only at AMC-21. I have not tried repointing it and testing other channels, so this is PBS only.
post #6400 of 6830
I am at Woodmen and Rangewood and can hardly ever get KKTV. I started way back when they first started transmitted digitally and it was great then. Glad to hear I am not alone and desperately awaiting their move.

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Originally Posted by pookers View Post

When will KKTV move to channel 49? I am hit a miss with their signal, yes i have a VHF/UHF attenna, and i have LOS to Cheyenne Mountain, as i am up high, Woodmen and Lexington
post #6401 of 6830
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Originally Posted by suzeo99 View Post

I am at Woodmen and Rangewood and can hardly ever get KKTV. I started way back when they first started transmitted digitally and it was great then. Glad to hear I am not alone and desperately awaiting their move.

I live over by Lexington and Research with a clear line of sight to Cheyenne Mtn. However I'm currently on cable. I'm thinking of OTA though. Wonder what the reception is like up here?

Cheers
post #6402 of 6830
I would just wait until KKTV moves its freq. to 49. Once that happens I think you can be pretty secure in your OTA signal strength.

You could always attach a pair of cheap rabbit ears to your current TV if it has a digital tuner and just see what you can get. Upstairs in my house I get all channels with only rabbit ears. Downstairs is more of a problem

Susan

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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

I live over by Lexington and Research with a clear line of sight to Cheyenne Mtn. However I'm currently on cable. I'm thinking of OTA though. Wonder what the reception is like up here?

Cheers
post #6403 of 6830
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Originally Posted by suzeo99 View Post

I would just wait until KKTV moves its freq. to 49. Once that happens I think you can be pretty secure in your OTA signal strength.

You could always attach a pair of cheap rabbit ears to your current TV if it has a digital tuner and just see what you can get. Upstairs in my house I get all channels with only rabbit ears. Downstairs is more of a problem

Susan

Hmmm. Your problem may be too much signal if you are connected to an antenna with more gain than the rabbit ears upstairs. There's been a fair amount of discussion on strong digital signals affecting reception over on the AVS Antenna thread. See:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...81623&page=363

You may have to back a few pages to see some of the discussion. So the solution may be to insert an attenuator between your antenna and the receiver. It depends on how much gain your antenna has. That seems counterintuitive, but there's certainly a possibility the signal is overloading the reciever if its too strong.

According to TV Fool, at Woodman and Rangewood, KKTV comes in as the strongest signal with a Noise Margin of 60.7 dB at that location. That's pretty high.

Anyway, something to think about.
Cheers
post #6404 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

I live over by Lexington and Research with a clear line of sight to Cheyenne Mtn. However I'm currently on cable. I'm thinking of OTA though. Wonder what the reception is like up here?

Cheers

We live very close to each other, and after spending the effort to attic mount my ClearStream4, I tried a 20+ year old rabbit ears in the same position with nearly identical results. If you have rabbit ears, give 'em a try in the position you think you'll do best. Very cheap test. If you need cable or anything to make the test happen let me know.

Scott
post #6405 of 6830
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Originally Posted by scottlindner View Post

We live very close to each other, and after spending the effort to attic mount my ClearStream4, I tried a 20+ year old rabbit ears in the same position with nearly identical results. If you have rabbit ears, give 'em a try in the position you think you'll do best. Very cheap test. If you need cable or anything to make the test happen let me know.

Scott

Hi Scott,
Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately I have no digital TV at the moment, just a 13 inch analog on cable. For the amount of TV I watch, its fine. At some point though I'll do an upgrade, maybe later this summer. I was looking at the new Sony NG (not yet on the market but advertiesed on their site - Very nice! Industrial design is great).
Cheers
satcom
post #6406 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

Hi Scott,
Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately I have no digital TV at the moment, just a 13 inch analog on cable. For the amount of TV I watch, its fine. At some point though I'll do an upgrade, maybe later this summer. I was looking at the new Sony NG (not yet on the market but advertiesed on their site - Very nice! Industrial design is great).
Cheers
satcom

Right now you're just doing your homework? I used rabbit ears in a first floor window for a year. It worked fine for all channels exception when there was bad weather.

Scott
post #6407 of 6830
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

... Unfortunately I have no digital TV at the moment, just a 13 inch analog on cable. ...

is it a black and white set?

just kidding...
post #6408 of 6830
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Originally Posted by scottlindner View Post

Right now you're just doing your homework? I used rabbit ears in a first floor window for a year. It worked fine for all channels exception when there was bad weather.

Scott

is it a black and white set?

just kidding...

Yup Scott, 'fraid so. There's no hurry to spend $$$ for a new TV since I watch so little these days.

And no eddie, its not black and white. Nice touch with that comment though made me laugh. For a long time I didn't even own a TV.

Cheers.
post #6409 of 6830
Anybody catch Saturday Night Live last night with Them Crooked Vultures?
The vocals were barely coming through the mix and it seemed like KOAA kept jacking up switching from SD to HD.
post #6410 of 6830
My TV has extensive signal info. This makes no sense to me but perhaps someone here could decode:

Errors (between 60 - 200)
SNR (dB) ~15
IF-AGC (%) 35

I attached an antennuator that I happened to have around and it didn't help.

Thanks

Susan

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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

Hmmm. Your problem may be too much signal if you are connected to an antenna with more gain than the rabbit ears upstairs. There's been a fair amount of discussion on strong digital signals affecting reception over on the AVS Antenna thread. See:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...81623&page=363

You may have to back a few pages to see some of the discussion. So the solution may be to insert an attenuator between your antenna and the receiver. It depends on how much gain your antenna has. That seems counterintuitive, but there's certainly a possibility the signal is overloading the reciever if its too strong.

According to TV Fool, at Woodman and Rangewood, KKTV comes in as the strongest signal with a Noise Margin of 60.7 dB at that location. That's pretty high.

Anyway, something to think about.
Cheers
post #6411 of 6830
Looks like KOAA is getting ready to go HD, or at least wide screen. They are remodeling their news set and meanwhile have changed their sidebars to have a moving blue image instead of a static HD logo.
post #6412 of 6830
Does anyone know the newest DVR hardware that Comcast is distributing?
I am upgrading my service to HD + DVR this week.
I don't want them to try to pawn off an older box on me.

Thanks.
post #6413 of 6830
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Originally Posted by royrose View Post

Looks like KOAA is getting ready to go HD, or at least wide screen. They are remodeling their news set and meanwhile have changed their sidebars to have a moving blue image instead of a static HD logo.

Glad to see this finally. It is probably set to coincide with their Olympics coverage which starts Friday. They should have a bump in viewer numbers this weekend.
post #6414 of 6830
Any fellow Springers trying out DirecTV's new multi-room viewing beta?

Been running it for about a week. Not too bad for an add-on feature.
post #6415 of 6830
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainD View Post

Any fellow Springers trying out DirecTV's new multi-room viewing beta?

Been running it for about a week. Not too bad for an add-on feature.

Would like to have it but I don't have SWM. You need that to make it work.
post #6416 of 6830
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Would like to have it but I don't have SWM. You need that to make it work.

did not know that. Thought the SWM requirement was only for the DECA implementation.
post #6417 of 6830
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainD View Post

did not know that. Thought the SWM requirement was only for the DECA implementation.

That's correct. While it is likely DirecTV will only officially support the DECA network implementation, MRV works fine for me on CAT5, no SWM.
post #6418 of 6830
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Originally Posted by MalcolmG View Post

That's correct. While it is likely DirecTV will only officially support the DECA network implementation, MRV works fine for me on CAT5, no SWM.

So do you run cat5 between the DVRs? or thru your computer?
post #6419 of 6830
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Originally Posted by bnwrx View Post

So do you run cat5 between the DVRs? or thru your computer?

If you just want to MRV between DVRs, yes, Cat5 between them will work, but you will need to manually set up the network parameters on each box. I have my four DVRs connected to my home network router and DSL modem to also enable DOD and mediashare.
post #6420 of 6830
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Originally Posted by MalcolmG View Post

If you just want to MRV between DVRs, yes, Cat5 between them will work, but you will need to manually set up the network parameters on each box. I have my four DVRs connected to my home network router and DSL modem to also enable DOD and mediashare.

Thanks for the reply. If I just ran cat5 between 2 DVRs, would that mean I could record on both and have access to the playlist on both from either tv? (I have 2 DVRs only)
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