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post #391 of 1548
A stand alone player or put the AVS 709 MP4 files on a flashdrive and play them back on the TV. From a PC you need it set up just right in order to see blacker than black and whiter than white. I really like that page for a quick "How to use the AVS 709 disc." But from a PC without it set up properly isn't ideal because you might not see the brightness pattern properly.
post #392 of 1548
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

A stand alone player or put the AVS 709 MP4 files on a flashdrive and play them back on the TV. From a PC you need it set up just right in order to see blacker than black and whiter than white. I really like that page for a quick "How to use the AVS 709 disc." But from a PC without it set up properly isn't ideal because you might not see the brightness pattern properly.
My new 50UT50 won't be delivered until the new year, so if you think this is a stupid query, so be it. tongue.gif

Is it possible to connect a PC remotely over LAN to TV to assist calibration in some way? My AVR has a web control feature that I find indispensable for this. Would be nice if TV had a similar feature.
post #393 of 1548
The only way I can think of would be to watch test patterns via DLNA or similar. But you can just put the slides on a flashdrive and save yourself the trouble of networking playback for that.
post #394 of 1548
Hi

One simple question.

Connecting the ut50 to PC via DVI/HDMI will result blurry and slightly off picture. (cause of 444 to 422)

Any way to correct it WITHOUT entering the service menu ?

Should I play around with the catalyst or it can be fixed with the TV/picture settings ?

Regards

David
post #395 of 1548
Make sure you check HDMI HD Size is set to 2, sharpness is set to 0, and anti-image retention pixel orbiter is off. YCC 442 is what you want, and that shouldn't affect resolution. 422 is just the color space being output and has nothing to do with resolution.
post #396 of 1548
Yes, why would 444 to 422 make it blurry?

This TV has a problem with blurring anyway, at least compared to the V20.
post #397 of 1548
My TV has no blurriness on from my PC set at 1080p, YCC 442. Check scaling and resolution because you should have a sharp 1:1 pixel map.
post #398 of 1548
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

My TV has no blurriness on from my PC set at 1080p, YCC 442. Check scaling and resolution because you should have a sharp 1:1 pixel map.

What are you comparing it to though? People with no reference tell me it's not blurry, but I'm used to the V20, which is sharper. And when I compare them side-by-side the difference is obvious, especially in text.

I'm still trying to figure out whether the thing is actually 1:1 mapping. I took a macro shot of what should be single pixel lines (which I posted before):



And it doesn't really look 1:1. In fact the white horizontal lines look three pixels thick. But then I took the shot again with a dark filter:



From that shot I would say that only single pixel lines are actually being driven. (what a single pixel looks like for reference: http://i.imgur.com/c61eF.png)

So, my question is: With those extra pixels that appear to be (partially) lit in the first macro, are they actually being fired by the TV, or is their apparent illumination just some kind of spill/leakage?

(Test pattern used: http://i.imgur.com/Xf4Qe.jpg)
Edited by Oubadah - 12/21/12 at 2:45am
post #399 of 1548
From my experience,changing wb for custom changed it for all picture modes and 3d. When i changed the wb for custom,i left the sm and then went back in to change it for cinema mode but i couldn't because cinema and custom shared the same wb settings. I think the wb settings are shared for all modes but i'm not sure and don't feel like messing with my tv right now to confirm it lol. I do know that after changing my custom wb,my cinema wb was the same next time i went into the sm.luojie
Edited by avsforumsdsd - 12/22/12 at 4:27am
post #400 of 1548
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Originally Posted by avsforumsdsd View Post

From my experience,changing wb for custom changed it for all picture modes and 3d. When i changed the wb for custom,i left the sm and then went back in to change it for cinema mode but i couldn't because cinema and custom shared the same wb settings. I think the wb settings are shared for all modes but i'm not sure and don't feel like messing with my tv right now to confirm it lol. I do know that after changing my custom wb,my cinema wb was the same next time i went into the sm.

You are correct if you change the wb settings for a color temp in the SM they will apply for all picture modes. You do have 3 color temps to choose from those so theoretically you could have a day, night and 3d cal using different color temps.
post #401 of 1548
Thank you for your reply.

Do you have any vertical banding / lines issue on your UT50 ?

Im reading a lot about that issue, but it seems only the NeoPDP has it (ST50/GT50/VT50).

Regards

David
post #402 of 1548
My UT50 60" just arrived today. What are the best settings for light room? 3D? Any help would be appreciated. Neo?
post #403 of 1548
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Originally Posted by covix View Post

Thank you for your reply.
Do you have any vertical banding / lines issue on your UT50 ?
Im reading a lot about that issue, but it seems only the NeoPDP has it (ST50/GT50/VT50).
Regards
David

You mean like the banding shown in the second picture here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1406618/official-panasonic-ut50-series-discussion-thread/1470#post_22730127

When I look at that grey slide, I see one vertical band about a third from the right side of the screen. However, with a certain pale blue/green colour, I notice a lot of banding, about 5 vertical bands.

(General comment: Having two separate threads for this TV was a stupid, stupid idea)
post #404 of 1548
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Okay, here are the settings I use for my 50" UT50.
Cinema Mode
Basic Settings
Contrast: +90
Brightness: +49
Color: +48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2 (Calibrated to D65)
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off
Aspect Adjustments
Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
H Size: Size 1
HDMI Settings
HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Standard 16-235
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Off
Advanced Picture
3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: 60 Hz
Custom Mode
Basic Settings
Contrast: +84
Brightness: +56
Color: +48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Normal (calibrated to D65)
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off
Aspect Adjustments
Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
H Size: Size 1
HDMI Settings
HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Standard 16-235
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Off
Advanced Picture
3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: 60 Hz
3D Cinema Mode
Basic Settings
Contrast: +85
Brightness: +57
Color: +48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2 (Calibrated to D65)
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off
Aspect Adjustments
Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
H Size: Size 1
HDMI Settings
HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Standard 16-235
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Off
Advanced Picture
3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: 60 Hz
System Menu Settings =>3D Settings
Auto Detect 3D: Auto 1
3d Signal Notification: On
2D => 3D Depth: Medium
3D Adjustment: 0
Left/Right Swap: Normal
Diagonal Line Filter: Off
AND THE MOMENT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR....
White Balance via Service Menu. I've calibrated both Warm and Normal to D65 and this is the closest I could get.
Warm Color Temp Using Cinema Mode
R Cut 84
G Cut 6E
B Cut 65
R Drive EF
G Drive FF
B Drive 96
All Cut 84
All Drive FF
Normal Color Temp Using Custom Mode
R Cut 7F
G Cut 6A
B Cut 60
R Drive EF
G Drive FF
B Drive 97
All Cut 7F
All Drive FF
I don't think it really matter which picture mode you use as long as the primary adjustments are accurate, WB shouldn't change much. Keep in mind that WB controls are very TV specific so just because this is what make D65 on my TV with 329 hours on it (I just checked and it was 329:00 smile.gif) doesn't mean your TV will be D65.



Thank you SO much for this valuable post.

Somewhere in this thread someone posted how to access the pro settings. (hold down the vol- and click the info 3 times)

But did I read right that there's a technique to set the settings back to the default setting if one screws up?


EDIT~I searched again and couldn't find info on settings recovery so I must have misread.
Edited by Baron Blood - 12/22/12 at 8:53pm
post #405 of 1548
I've decided to go pro and use the above recommended WARM and NORMAL settings.

I'm concerned though because I don't know what buttons to push to change the settings and can forsee screwing eveything up.

Any advice?
post #406 of 1548
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Originally Posted by Baron Blood View Post

I've decided to go pro and use the above recommended WARM and NORMAL settings.
I'm concerned though because I don't know what buttons to push to change the settings and can forsee screwing eveything up.
Any advice?

If you truly have no knowledge of playing around in the service menu, I advise you to just stay out of it, an off balance RGB looks much better than a bricked tv. But if you still want to go ahead with it, searching this forum should help, and there are some youtube videos that may help you a bit as well.
post #407 of 1548
Hello all, really appreciate all the information on this board. I recently bought the 60UT50 and have been searching all over for the panel prep slides. Does anyone know where I can get them for this model? It seems like D-Nice only created them for the ST, GT, and VT models.

If not, is there a consensus on settings for optimal viewing for sports! Sorry for the newbie questions, I am really excited for this set! Thanks in advance for any help or pointing me in the right direction!
post #408 of 1548
ok ,hi guys,i am from holland.... i read and am still reading the official thread of the ut50 and issues thread,very intesting and also great to read the posts of Neo etc.i've learned alot.
a few days before receiving the tv it i allready start reading it.
but when i received the tv,i found out that the menu is totally different from the European model i have,so that's a little frustrating,because all ppl are talking about is american version with more and different options.
its like its a total different model when i'm reading here,crazy.
i see alot of nice settings that people post here,but then i cannot apply them..i mean like brightness is 0 at defaulkt and with contrast it doesnt go higher than 60.
i have contast at 40.Brightness at 0, Colour at 30,Sharpness at 0 and Colour Balance at Warm(cool,normal or warm to choose from) and i put off all those crazy image "enhancements"
is there nobody here with european models who has good menu setting?and Service Menu settings?
i also put the White Balance in the advanced settings(wich is available in the EU version) to the following.because Neo or someone else put this down here.so is this about right?:
in cinema mode:
r-gain: +3
g-gain: -18
b-gain: -26
r-cutoff: -20
g-cutoff: 0
b-cutoff: 25

and please share your settings or americans,asians,or australians,what do you think are the ABOUT right settings for my tv?
and which settings i have to change in the SM? because i see pictures of calibration reports here,but how do i have to apply all of this?
i dont really understand it well.
so i hope someone will take the time to teach and explain excactly step by step to me(so then after that i can try to help others also;)
thanks in advance.
Edited by pennywise666 - 12/25/12 at 12:42pm
post #409 of 1548
I would like your input regarding three 3D settings­.


24p Direct In: 48 Hz
Motion smoother : weak
3d adjustment : -1

Here, on my 60ut50 we got much better results with 48fps (instead of 60) and motion smoother to weak.

Ghosting and crosstalk are almost inexistant that way even on dark 3d scenes...
post #410 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwoo0418 View Post

Hello all, really appreciate all the information on this board. I recently bought the 60UT50 and have been searching all over for the panel prep slides. Does anyone know where I can get them for this model?

The "slides" are for any brand and model. You can make your own DVD, or just download the zipped file containing the 20 or so images and put them on an SD card or USB stick and run a slideshow on the TV of your choice. Both methods work equally well.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/949107/master-burn-in-ir-break-in-thread-part-ii-all-posts-here-only

Quote:
It seems like D-Nice only created them for the ST, GT, and VT models.

D-Nice didn't create the slides - Evangelo did. D-Nice (and everybody else) simply uses them to age the panel.
post #411 of 1548
Hi guys, it's my first post here, my UT50 is on the way smile.gif
I'm a little bit confused about anikun07's calibration settings...
It has 3 modes, Cinema, Custom and Cinema 3D. When should I use custom instead of cinema?
I can save those presets and choose between them right?
I mean, I don't have to do it all again if I want to change from Cinema to custom?
Last question; I really want to calibrate the color temperature settings... I can't live knowing that my TV can have a better image tongue.gif
So... I know that I should take care while in service menu, but it's that hard?
Can someone post a little tutorial on how to use the service menu?
I know how to enter it, and I know how it looks like but i never used it.
I read somewhere that I need to change the mode i'm calibrating (number 7 I think), and use the number 1 to 4 to go through the menu pages, is that right?
I will use the channel button to get to the value and the volume to change it?
It might sound obvious, but i really don't want to change some value by accident...
Sorry for bothering, thanks!
post #412 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by LexSombra View Post

Hi guys, it's my first post here, my UT50 is on the way smile.gif
I'm a little bit confused about anikun07's calibration settings...
It has 3 modes, Cinema, Custom and Cinema 3D. When should I use custom instead of cinema?
I can save those presets and choose between them right?
I mean, I don't have to do it all again if I want to change from Cinema to custom?
Last question; I really want to calibrate the color temperature settings... I can't live knowing that my TV can have a better image tongue.gif
So... I know that I should take care while in service menu, but it's that hard?
Can someone post a little tutorial on how to use the service menu?
I know how to enter it, and I know how it looks like but i never used it.
I read somewhere that I need to change the mode i'm calibrating (number 7 I think), and use the number 1 to 4 to go through the menu pages, is that right?
I will use the channel button to get to the value and the volume to change it?
It might sound obvious, but i really don't want to change some value by accident...
Sorry for bothering, thanks!

You need a meter and software to calibrate greyscale
post #413 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by LexSombra View Post

Hi guys, it's my first post here, my UT50 is on the way smile.gif
I'm a little bit confused about anikun07's calibration settings...
It has 3 modes, Cinema, Custom and Cinema 3D. When should I use custom instead of cinema?
I can save those presets and choose between them right?
I mean, I don't have to do it all again if I want to change from Cinema to custom?
Last question; I really want to calibrate the color temperature settings... I can't live knowing that my TV can have a better image tongue.gif
So... I know that I should take care while in service menu, but it's that hard?
Can someone post a little tutorial on how to use the service menu?
I know how to enter it, and I know how it looks like but i never used it.
I read somewhere that I need to change the mode i'm calibrating (number 7 I think), and use the number 1 to 4 to go through the menu pages, is that right?
I will use the channel button to get to the value and the volume to change it?
It might sound obvious, but i really don't want to change some value by accident...
Sorry for bothering, thanks!

I'll be clear on the subject of "Custom Mode." I don't recommend it, with one exception. Cinema Mode has the gamma you "Need" in order to properly view content in it's director-intended picture. Custom Mode does not have good gamma, a gamma of 1.0 is way too low if you want black detail and bright detail. Cinema Mode comes in around 2.14 when I have a target of 2.20. The only exception for using Custom Mode is if you have a video processor (or similar device, like a PC) that can compensate for that lack of gamma because the color gamut is wider on Custom than Cinema. You can always narrow a C.G., but you can't widen it.

Once your settings are made in each picture mode, they're set until you change them. There is are settings for 2D and 3D that are saved separately. I don't know if HD and SD has separated picture settings either, I don't have SD content so I haven't explored that yet.
post #414 of 1548
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

You need a meter and software to calibrate greyscale

This is correct. You can use other peoples settings and it will be close, but the only way to get the best picture is to have the calibration done to that individual TV. You can do it yourself with a bit of know-how, or you can hire a pro calibrator.
post #415 of 1548
Hi guys. I have a question for you. I have a UT50, and am currently using the settings that PathofNeo had up a while back. Now, I'm enjoying the picture overall, however, white letters on the screen can come off as fuzzy, and not very crisp, almost blurry. Is there a setting I can adjust to clear this up? The source is a Directv HD DVR.
post #416 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

The "slides" are for any brand and model. You can make your own DVD, or just download the zipped file containing the 20 or so images and put them on an SD card or USB stick and run a slideshow on the TV of your choice. Both methods work equally well.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/949107/master-burn-in-ir-break-in-thread-part-ii-all-posts-here-only
D-Nice didn't create the slides - Evangelo did. D-Nice (and everybody else) simply uses them to age the panel.

Thank you for the info Randy. Is it recommended to tweak any of the settings before you run the slides or just run it on slideshow mode right out of the box? Also, do you have a recommended settings breakdown to start with? Do you have an opinion on anikun7's settings in post #250?
post #417 of 1548
I said earlier that the warm2 setting was too yellowy on my screen.
It appeared to be my crappy reception and the fact that shows and commercials exagerate thiis "warmness" effect now.

I put in my Spears & Munsil disc and found the settings Anikun posted GORGEOUS with the video clips supplied.

I'm thrilled with this TV.

Thanks again, everyone.
post #418 of 1548
Sorry double post
post #419 of 1548
i have the 42ut50 for 3 days now almost.
and after the first 2 hours i saw a blue vertical tin line that looked like the beam from a laserpen,for 2 minutes.
and a few hours ago i saw it again for about 15 minutes.
should i return the set? if i return it within 7 days,they will send me another one.
is this a sign that the board is not good and that its slowly dying?or will it go away after a few hunderd hours?
post #420 of 1548
I have no idea what that is but I'd be concerned enough to return it while I can, PW.
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