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post #481 of 1548
Hey Buddha I noticed you posted this before


WARM
R-Cut= +4
G-Cut= -18
B-Cut= -27

R-Drv= -7
G-Drv= 0
B-Drv= +22

These are slightly different than the instructions you posted today? Which ones should i go with?

thanks again for hooking us up,
kev,
post #482 of 1548
hey Buddha its me again. Are these the basic setting you are using? This is what Anikun posted on page 12 of forum. I noticed here he is using Warm 2 however we are adjusting warm (1) in the service pages.... is that ok?

Cinema Mode

Basic Settings

Contrast: +90
Brightness: +49
Color: +48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

Color Temp: Warm 2 (Calibrated to D65)
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off


Aspect Adjustments

Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
H Size: Size 1

HDMI Settings

HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Standard 16-235
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Off


Advanced Picture

3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)

Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: 60 Hz
post #483 of 1548
Use the WB settings I posted today. The settings you referenced are anikun's previously posted WB settings when he calibrated using a Sony S580 disc player. He since re-calibrated using a flash drive plugged directly into the television. The re-calibrated using the flash drive settings are what I posted today.

LB
post #484 of 1548
Budddddha! i did it man following you instructions.. done deal. I believe the skin tone issue is now solved. Can you confirm that you are using the following basic settings?

Cinema Mode

Basic Settings

Contrast: +90
Brightness: +49
Color: +48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

Color Temp: Warm 2 (Calibrated to D65)
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off


Aspect Adjustments

Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
H Size: Size 1

HDMI Settings

HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Standard 16-235
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Off


Advanced Picture

3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)

Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: 60 Hz
post #485 of 1548
ut50guy: In the service menu for Color temp you can only change WARM, NORMAL & COOL. It covers WARM 1 & 2 - NORMAL - COOL 1 & 2 in the picture settings. As far as anikun's picture settings I use everything except Contrast 85 and brightness 50 <- minor changes everything else is the same. Again thank you anikun for all of your hard work! biggrin.gif
post #486 of 1548
Thanks Buddha. My TV is now configured. Your instructions were awesome.


Ok Anikun

=Thank you so much for these settings. To be honest i was ready to return this TV and keep the ST50,,, well i made up my mind and I am going to return the ST50 and save my money.

THIS PICTURE ROCKS! I am so happy i went into the service menu.... because the skin tone issue was resolved by following Buddha's advice and your up to date settings.

THANK YOU GUYS--- MERRRY CHRISTMAS ahahhahahahahah


kev,
post #487 of 1548
Thanks for posting the steps Buddha!biggrin.gif
post #488 of 1548
Ok I just calibrated my ut50 and it looks great thanks to everyone on this forum.but can someone clear this up for me.wen I calibrated the tv I had the blu ray source ( hdmi 2) chosen.do I have to input the setting again for hdmi 1 (my cable box)? And on my blu ray settings should I set it to cinema settings (Panasonic dmp bdt110)?
Thanks in advance!
post #489 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyr23 View Post

Ok I just calibrated my ut50 and it looks great thanks to everyone on this forum.but can someone clear this up for me.wen I calibrated the tv I had the blu ray source ( hdmi 2) chosen.do I have to input the setting again for hdmi 1 (my cable box)? And on my blu ray settings should I set it to cinema settings (Panasonic dmp bdt110)?
Thanks in advance!

You shouldn't need to re-calibrate, but you will need to copy your settings over to the different input. This is only for picture mode settings, if you did white balance in the service menu, then you only need to calibrate HD and SD and those will be applicable to all inputs and picture modes.
post #490 of 1548
Ok for anyone who cares i just did a side by side comparison between the 55" ST50 (cnet calibration) and the 50" UT50 with Anikun's calibration (i used Buddahs/Anikuns specs for basic picture settings and Anikuns white balance settings in the service menu). By the way the service menu was a must!

I did back to back bluray, back to back HD cable (1080i) and simultaneous wifi 1080p from computer, and back to back mario U

Ok i realize there is a size/pixel difference here, but regardless the picture on the UT is just as good or better. I can't freggin believe it. I shouldn't go that far. The ST is just as good and 5" larger. The blacks on the UT are just as black or maybe even blacker... i know its crazy... but im not blind... the ST is way hotter than the UT. The UT is warm the ST is very warm (not hot) to the touch. Furthermore, the motion on the UT may be better than the ST.... but i cannot say for sure... so close. Gaming on the UT and ST are similar... maybe even a slight edge for the UT. The UT does seem to be a bit louder under heavy strain. But not much louder.

On cable, the menu is clearer on the UT. I believe this may be due to the filter on the ST. My wife noticed that right away... besides that she couldn't tell the difference in any other area between the two TV's.

Now the things i don't like about the UT is its twice as thick and the inputs (ex HDMI) go directly into the back of the TV while ST goes on the side (saving room if wall mounted) besides that they almost look the same. Obviously the wifi and browser on the ST are nice.

In conclusion, I have decided to keep the UT and return the ST. Oh, i forgot to talk about the reflections on the screen during day use. The ST is better but not crazy better. I have 3 windows in my living room and I noticed the UT was worse. You could see the reflections in both, but the reflections were more mirror like in the UT. But they were both pretty bad. Not a big difference at all. The louver filter does do a better job for lights above the TV so i hear but i believe is makes text slightly blury (ex cable menu) and that bothers my wife.

Panasonic makes an amazing TV when calibrated. Thanks again Anikun and Buddha!

Ok,,, im tired. Anyone looking to buy a TV the truth is you cannot go wrong with the UT50 or ST50. If you have money to burn but the ST (ex you drive a Bently) otherwise save your money and buy the UT. I am not a pro on this subject just a normal average joe.

I cannot believe the picture on the UT. It is just as good
post #491 of 1548
Hey guys smile.gif


Just picked up the 55ut50 couple days ago and just finished the 100hr brake in with the slides. Thanks ut50guy for the comparison between the UT and ST biggrin.gif

I read through the posts and got anikun07 WB settings and basic picture settings and adjusted accordingly although the clicks were off for me as my some of my defaults were different. Now it just seems like the picture is dark and doesnt seem as crystal clear as you guys are mentioning and doesnt seem to have that punch. Is there something im not adjusting right? my settings are as follows

WB: used anikun07 settings

basic:
Contrast: +90
Brightness: +49
Color: +50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

Color Temp: Warm 2
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off

Aspect Adjustments

Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2

HDMI Settings
HDMI/DVI RGB Range- HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Auto
Content Type - HDMI 1 & HDMI 2: Graphic


Advanced Picture

3D Y/C Filter: Off (Grayed Out)
Color Matrix: HD (Grayed Out)
Block NR: Off (Grayed Out)

Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off

Thanks again to everyone that helped in the forum!!!!
post #492 of 1548
Hey anikun07

when setting the WB are all the settings (warm, normal,cool) under the cinema mode?

Thanks Kruze14
post #493 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by kruze14 View Post

Hey anikun07
when setting the WB are all the settings (warm, normal,cool) under the cinema mode?
Thanks Kruze14

No, they are in the service menu and affect all picture modes.
post #494 of 1548
These are MY defaults.

HD - CINEMA - WARM

R-Cut 80
G-Cut 80
B-Cut 80

R-Drv FF
G-Drv FF
B-Drv 7B

All-Cut 80
All-Drv FF

Are the defaults really unique to each TV? My current set has the same defaults as my last. Coincidence?
post #495 of 1548
I've read they can be so all units look the same off the shelf.
post #496 of 1548
Hello, I'm having a small issue that more of an annoyance than anything. Often when connecting to VieraConnect my 50ut50 runs the connection test as if it lost the connection. I'm using a wired connection. The modem, router and tv do not lose power when this happens. It seems to be random. I thought it could be a power save/sleep issue but I've changed those settings and the issue still happens. Any ideas? Thanks!
post #497 of 1548
Kruze your settings are a bit off. (probably my fault from previous post) below is a combo of Anikun and Buddha's settings. Workds great on my 50"
Cinema

Contrast: 85
Brightness: 50
Colour: 48

HDMI setting for both are standard 16-235
content type for both HDMI is off



Here are my warm defaults before and after:

R-Cut 80 +3 77
G-Cut 80 -18 6E
B-Cut 80 -26 66

R-Drv FF -20 EB
G-Drv FF 0 FF
B-Drv 81 +25 9A

All-Cut 80 83
All-Drv FF
post #498 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Campbell View Post

Hello, I'm having a small issue that more of an annoyance than anything. Often when connecting to VieraConnect my 50ut50 runs the connection test as if it lost the connection. I'm using a wired connection. The modem, router and tv do not lose power when this happens. It seems to be random. I thought it could be a power save/sleep issue but I've changed those settings and the issue still happens. Any ideas? Thanks!

That only happens to me when I turn the TV on and try and go immediately to Viera Connect without giving the TV time to establish an internet connection. It sounds like you might have an ip conflict with another device. You should set up a static ip address for your television. You should look up how to setup a static ip for address.

Go to your...
Network
IP address/DNS settings
Set IP setting mode to Manual

IP Address192.168.1.22 <-Any 2 digit number should work, the higher the better to avoid conflict with wireless devices. I used 22.

Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway192.168.1.1 <- This is usually the router ip address

DNS 192.168.1.1 <- This will use the DNS setup on your router
post #499 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Buddha View Post

That only happens to me when I turn the TV on and try and go immediately to Viera Connect without giving the TV time to establish an internet connection. It sounds like you might have an ip conflict with another device. You should set up a static ip address for your television. You should look up how to setup a static ip for address.
Go to your...
Network
IP address/DNS settings
Set IP setting mode to Manual
IP Address192.168.1.22 <-Any 2 digit number should work, the higher the better to avoid conflict with wireless devices. I used 22.
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway192.168.1.1 <- This is usually the router ip address
DNS 192.168.1.1 <- This will use the DNS setup on your router

Buddha, I'll have to pay attention next time I go to Viera Connect. I might be going there too quick like you say. Each device on my network has a reserved IP address set up in the router. There aren't any IP conflicts. I think your first suggestions is correct. I'm usually trying to get to Netflix quick for the kids. I'll check it out and report back.

Thanks for the idea!
post #500 of 1548
My previous was a 60" sony lcd, I agree that it did take some time to adjust to the dimmer screen. but after putting some hours into it, It looks much better now and is also looking better with my settings. This is a great TV.

The adjustment from LCD to Plasma takes a little time
post #501 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Campbell View Post

Buddha, I'll have to pay attention next time I go to Viera Connect. I might be going there too quick like you say. Each device on my network has a reserved IP address set up in the router. There aren't any IP conflicts. I think your first suggestions is correct. I'm usually trying to get to Netflix quick for the kids. I'll check it out and report back.
Thanks for the idea!

Yes, I think the TV has to recollect to the router every time it's turned on. If you try to load viera connect before it has to look for the connection. I have everything in my house on a specified static IP address so nothing will conflict. Wired and wireless need separate addresses too if you want to avoid address conflict issues.
post #502 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

What "mounting screws" are you talking about? If you're talking about wall mounting screws, then they are never included with the TV - all you get is four plastic covers snapped into the wall mounting holes on the rear panel. Wall mounting screws are always supplied with whatever wall mount you buy.
The only screws that come with the TV are the ones for assembling the stand and attaching it to the TV.
Yes, I'm referring to the stand screws. Sorry for the confusion. Anyways, the service menu says the unit has 35 hours of runtime, so that's further evidence it's an open box unit.

I've actually run the TV for the last few hours testing out some material, taking some measurements and checking for issues.

The unit has the standard vertical band on the right hand side of the screen (many owners seem to report this band). There is no other vertical banding. Also, the buzzing is no more or less than my TC-P58S1, which I consider minor-moderate from my 11' sitting distance. 95% of the time it's inaudible. Only during bright scenes in a quiet room is it noticeably audible.

Measurements are good right out of the box. In Cinema Mode I'm getting a near perfect 2.3 (2.27 average) gamma from 10% to 90%. This is right where I like it in a dark room with bias lighting. Grayscale is good overall with less than 10 dE from 40% to 80%. Measurements were taken in HCFR with an i1 LT and large APL HCFR test patterns on the AVS 709 calibration disc. I have no contrast measurement; 0% IRE is too low for my meter to take a reading.

Some glaring problems, however: this TV has some serious processing issues and bugs and I'm surprised people haven't talked about them more (maybe they're discussed more in the GT/VT threads, I've only looked at the UT/ST threads). The scaling is pretty bad. Without getting into test pattern discussion, 720p material is noticeably better on my TC-P58S1, an almost four year old unit. As far as I can tell, there is also undefeatable edge enhancement where I don't notice it on the S1 if it is there. Desktop performance from my laptop is better on the S1. The UT is also very noisy in dark areas, especially in near-blacks. I'm getting a lot more sparkles in dark material compared to the S1. I can actually see this effect in certain material from my 11' sitting position.
Edited by Yukon Trooper - 1/3/13 at 4:11pm
post #503 of 1548
Make sure pixel orbiter is off in the system menu, anti-image retention. That could easily explain your "random" edges going off screen.
post #504 of 1548
why is there on my ut50 only the option to put pixel orbiter on "auto" or "on"?
so i have the option to put it ON or ON?thats nice.
i don't get it.
can't i put it off somewhere?
post #505 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by pennywise666 View Post

why is there on my ut50 only the option to put pixel orbiter on "auto" or "on"?
so i have the option to put it ON or ON?thats nice.
i don't get it.
can't i put it off somewhere?

What region? Mine, U.S., has enable and disable with current firmware.
post #506 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Make sure pixel orbiter is off in the system menu, anti-image retention. That could easily explain your "random" edges going off screen.
Man, do I feel stupid. That's exactly what it was. I thought I had turned off all enhancements and features before testing. Pixel orbiter was the only thing left on. Thank you. smile.gif
post #507 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper View Post

Man, do I feel stupid. That's exactly what it was. I thought I had turned off all enhancements and features before testing. Pixel orbiter was the only thing left on. Thank you. smile.gif

I went through the same thing. As long as you know for next time, right? smile.gif
post #508 of 1548
I'm going to post this again in this thread for anyone who doesn't happen to read both the discussion thread and this thread.

I am going to reference this post from now on since these questions keep coming up repeatedly with no one looking in past posts to find the answers.


Running Slides:
The only reason to run slides is to let the phosphors settle in to calibrate as soon as possible (100 hours, some prefer 150-200 hours) after taking the TV out of the box. You can also run slides to help break in the phosphors to possibly help avoid the early onset of image retention, but it's not necessary if you just watch mixed content.


Image Retention and Burn-In
If you're concerned about image retention then you're probably already mindful about keeping static images, watermarks, or HUDs on the screen for long periods of time. Black bars of letterboxed content do not cause image retention because black is the phosphors / pixels turned off. Many owners and new owners who are concerned about image retention don't need to worry too much. Simply turn off the TV if you have video on pause (leaving your BD,HTPC, Game Console on) for an extended period of time if there's no screen saver available. Also, you can press play for video content until the camera angle changes and you have a fresh new image on the TV and then pause it again. If you have a PC connected to your TV you can set the screen saver to run after a short time, like 1 minute, and set it so a picture slideshow so you have fresh images on the display. If you use Windows 7 (I don't know if Win8 or Vista has this option) you can set the wallpaper to change after a minute, too. Set your taskbar to auto-hide and you barely have anything static on the TV when programs are minimized. I also keep no icons on my UT50's desktop. The pin and searchable start menu make opening programs and files quick and easy without needing desktop icons.


PathofNeo's settings
PathofNeo's settings are currently taken down until he has time to calibrate his TV and re-post his best settings.
post #509 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by pennywise666 View Post

why is there on my ut50 only the option to put pixel orbiter on "auto" or "on"?
so i have the option to put it ON or ON?thats nice.
i don't get it.
can't i put it off somewhere?

This annoys me too.

It seems that many regions don't get an 'Off'.
post #510 of 1548
Quote:
Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

What region? Mine, U.S., has enable and disable with current firmware.

the european model..
Oubadah also doesnt have the OFF option i read.
is there no way to put it off in the service menu?
and does the auto option wich i have it set on,a negative impact on the image?
(mine is sent back because of blue vertical line,i expect a new one in 1 week)
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