The Official Panasonic UT50 Settings/Issues Thread - Page 33

Anikun07, is there any chance you could post or link to your post with your most updated settings for cinema/custom/3D with WB settings please? I'm accessing this forum via iphone 4 on 3g and it is painfully slow to search. Thanks either way, you're a great asset to the UT50 community.

You don't use a correction matrix unless you have another (more accurate) meter to offset your i1 Display Pro readings. Something like an i1 Pro that's a spectroradiometer would be used to create that offset table. In your HCFR preferences inthe references tab you would want to choose HDTV REC 709 as your standard and set Reference Gamma to the approximate gamma of the picture mode.

How do I go about doing these clicks and such I'd like to try these out

Ok since I can post quotes..

How do I go about using anikuns calibration with the clicks and can anyone explain the clicks to me I'm assuming they're - / + on the remote

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I just bought the 55ut50. Picture is great, however, I'm have lip sync issues with netflix app. Also tried Avatar bluray and lip sync issues are also there. What can I do?

Get surround sound?

I have it in the bedroom. Don't really want surround sound in there.

What are people thinking about the new ssg-5100's glasses? I've got some sets and can't figure out if they have a worse or the same problem with cross-talk. I'm also not sure if they are darker than the 4100s.

I would hope there isn't anything darker than the 4100. 3D glasses? I could have sworn they were sunglasses.

The LightDims worked great for the power light on my UT42. I went ahead and blacked out all of the text on my TV, the stickers blend in so well with the trim. It was a bit expensive at $8 including shipping, but thanks to whoever recommended this product, it improved my viewing experience.

I'm so used to my pj not having any color banding its weird seeing it on a plasma. Certain channels and graphics seem to do it more than others. Is this normal?

Also the pj seems to have more uniformity between channels. Certain channels on this Panny seem to lean towards the red like Showtime.

What is your playback device and set up? Do you have an AVR or just TV speakers? If using a BDP for video playback, you may want to disable HDMI CEC.

I have only the Tv speakers. Its a Sylvania bdp. Direct Tv is ok. It must just be netflix app in Tv. But is there any way to adjust Tv settings for syncing to be more accurate?

I don't get any banding on this set if the source is free of it. I'm quite sensitive to banding, and I made sure this one didn't have such problems because my last TV had banding issues even when it wasn't from the source itself.

As far as "uniformity between channels", I don't know what to say, unless your projector is altering all source material to fit within a certain spectrum so to speak while this TV doesn't alter the source any. It's also possible your pj has some sort of extra processing to remove banding when there's some in the source itself.

Again, on my UT50 at least... if there's no banding in the source itself I don't see any, but if there is banding apparent from the source it is there, just like with the rest of my displays.

My only beefs with this set is if it goes out of calibration at all... skin tones start to look orangish/yellowish, some minor uniformity issues (with the panel not being the same brightness throughout) that's only noticeable with white backgrounds), and a little bit of buzzing when the picture is bright.
Edited by damag0r - 3/7/13 at 10:41pm

I think someone mentioned they upgraded the firmware and it fixed the issue, in the discussion thread. I could be remembering wrong though. I hate the internal media players on TV sets, so I never use them except for calibration videos/patterns etc.

I've seen netflix and amazon both lose sync with some viewings, but ususally no sooner than I notice it's fixed itself. (but I am running through av receiver) and I've seen the same with other components.

According to this.. my i1 Display Pro colorimeter is more accurate than an i1pro spectrophotometer. Or am I reading this wrong?

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/MonitorCalibrationHardware.html


Edited by damag0r - 3/8/13 at 7:34am

That's what it looks like, but it's important to note that the spectroradiometer doesn't drift over time because it doesn't use color filters to take measurements. So the colorimeter could be more precise but not necessarily more accurate if it's out of calibration.

Who calibrates the calibrater?

My guess is AV professionals that have $$$$ equipment. Spectracal and I think Chromapure can calibrate colorimeters or you can rent spectroradiometers to create the offset tables.

A good example of banding and/or graphic boxes/blotches is during the opening of Hell Boy when the camera dives through the swirling clouds. The clouds look terrible! Is there some setting I'm missing?

I don't have Hellboy to test with unfortunately... Can you take pictures and see if it is visible?

There is one thing I notice with this TV though... It is the temporal/subfield dithering. Are you sure that isn't what you're seeing? "Banding" happens whether there is action or not on the screen and is a flaw in how the colors are being handled so you get obvious "bands" of colors instead of a smooth transition between the colors. I do notice noise in the picture around movement, which I think is somehow related to the dithering? Anyway, I prefer the dithering to the sample-and-hold effect blurring of LCDs, which is the main reason why I got a plasma.

Edited this post a bit, I don't really understand the subfield dithering myself, but I think I see it when there is motion sometimes.. But maybe I'm just seeing phosphor trails and I don't know what I'm talking about. It looks almost like rainbowy outlines around stuff that is moving across the screen... and when subtitles disappear. Again though, it's still much preferable to the LCD "blurghosts". Not to be confused with DLP RBE btw... it's not like a literal rainbow I see like on a slow colorwheel DLP... it's more like a "rainbowy" outline. Almost like a slight ghost or trail... but not nearly as bad as what I see on LCDs.

Actually... this makes me want to ask a question... the "static" looking noise I see on plasmas and DLPs when I get up REALLY close, is that the dithering? Is it the weird noise I see around movement on plasmas? Or both?

Edited again:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1593435-panasonic-plasma-great-picture-produced-heavy-dithering.html

http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/plasma-tvs/293865d1329567186-panasonic-plasma-great-picture-produced-heavy-dithering-t50_24_white.jpg <--- I think this is what I'm seeing??? Is it possible?

Anyway, I sit too close to the TV which is why I can even see this at all, and it's much much less bothersome to me than LCD sample-and-hold type ghosting/blurring.

Oh yeah, make sure CATS and ALL of that stuff is turned off... you want everything off.
Edited by damag0r - 3/8/13 at 8:21pm

Oh I made sure all that crap was turned off, lol. I can try and take a picture of it tomorrow.

So far though when watching hockey the picture looks damd good and smooth with no motion problem like I saw on Lcd's.

Not sure about DLP, yes that's dithering on a plasma.

Just how close are you sitting...?

I can check it out, I think it's on Netflix?

Yes it is

Yep, it's normal.

You're seeing a lot of dithering because it's a swirling mass of dark gray (the most noticeable), now add the terrible pixelation from NF on top of that and... voila!

Edit: The rest of the movie looks pretty good so far though.

Yeah watched it on NF but maybe I'll throw the DVD in and see how it looks.

Hah... this is why I don't use Netflix.

I hate compression artifacts (DCT blocking etc). And if I watch a DVD I use MPC-HC + MadVR with softcubic on the chroma upscaling... then softcubic or jinc + anti-ringing filter on the luma/image. The softcubic especially does a great job at "cleaning" stuff up.