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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
my magnavox 515 exhaust fan on the rear of the unit is making alot of noise,I can litely tap it and the noise goe's away, it still blows air and it's still under warrenty however to insure Magnavox dos'nt swap it w/ a refurb. I would like to replace the fan myself.

plus I don't want to lose the 200hours of 4 star commercail free movies I have on it's HDD.

I contacted encompass there response was it's a exchange unit meaning no parts are available (except for a remote).

edit maybe it needs a shot of oil?

any suggestions?

Thanks STB
post #2 of 22
Send me a PM to discuss fix.
post #3 of 22
You should also check out Wajo's sticky thread, I'm quite sure he has a whole section on noisy fans and how to correct it, most of which don't require replacing the fan.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Remedies: (1) tighten screws and wait a couple of weeks for the fan to settle into its "groove" (mine did), (2) place other component on top with extra "foot" over harmonic spot, (3) take unit back, (4) ???.

I should of known to go directly to the man Wajo's sticky thread

When exactly doe's the fan come on during reording,playback or when it thinks it's feeling hot?

Thanks Guys
post #5 of 22
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
is this the place's email address parts@funaiservice.com to order a fan?

was told there isn't a phone # to order parts.

also maybe I should say it's a 2160 for a known to last fan?

STB
post #7 of 22
Sorry, I should have mentioned that the order info is a couple subjects higher up... here.

Yes, always give them the model (2160 or 2160A) and their model number (E2Mxxxx or E2Sxxxx) as shown on your back tag.
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Sorry, I should have mentioned that the order info is a couple subjects higher up... here.

Yes, always give them the model (2160 or 2160A) and their model number (E2Mxxxx or E2Sxxxx) as shown on your back tag.

hi folks...

any number of generic fans will work on this one... just make sure of operating voltage and inside dimension size ( inside the mounting case on rear )...

rgds,
ron g
post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
update on cooling fan situation I probably should have mentioned that prior to the fan malfunction the 515 was under heavey recording use for four days straight about 18-20 hours per day usalley I record a couple hours per day.

I haven't been using the 515 on a daily basis and thought that the fan issuse went away because after I made a few adjustments I never heard it making the noise so I thought the issuse was resolved, yesterday I was dubbing a DVD disc from HDD the process started off normale so I stepped out for a few hours when I came back the 515 top of case was very warm not hot just warm on both sides DVD and HDD the disc was apparentely damaged and hungup the HDD to DVD process for the time I was out,

I got a error message and the 515 wanted me to power down the unit was unable to acomplish this power down w/ the remote so I unplugged it, the 515 still functions as it should except for the fan.

I was curious if in fact the fan was spinning so I put my hand directly behind fan however I did'nt feel much of anything blowing so I stuck a small piece of wire into the blade area and the fan started to try to spin then the horriable nosie however a differnt noise looks like I'll have to replace this fan.

?can a 513 fan be used on my 515?
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
fan issuse is resolved 515 is not getting warm anymore.

solution was the fan blade was contacting the back of case used my finger and applied a little preasure now fan spins freely zero extra noise.

BTW response from Funia parts the fan is not available.

hope this helps someone else w/ 515 fan noise.


STB
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

fan issuse is resolved 515 is not getting warm anymore.
solution was the fan blade was contacting the back of case used my finger and applied a little preasure now fan spins freely zero extra noise.
BTW response from Funia parts the fan is not available.
hope this helps someone else w/ 515 fan noise.
STB

hi folks...

again, any computer store that sells actual computer parts ( cpu's, ram, fans, power supplies, etc ) will have a small fan that will work fine.. you won't get the little custom frame, but the innards is separate and an appropriate small cpu type fan matching the dimensions and operating voltage should slide right in and will do the trick... examples of stores = frys electronics, digi-key, even e-bay will have them floating around...

rgds,
ron g
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by rkg22 View Post

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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

fan issuse is resolved 515 is not getting warm anymore.
solution was the fan blade was contacting the back of case used my finger and applied a little preasure now fan spins freely zero extra noise.
BTW response from Funia parts the fan is not available.
hope this helps someone else w/ 515 fan noise.
STB

hi folks...

again, any computer store that sells actual computer parts ( cpu's, ram, fans, power supplies, etc ) will have a small fan that will work fine.. you won't get the little custom frame, but the innards is separate and an appropriate small cpu type fan matching the dimensions and operating voltage should slide right in and will do the trick... examples of stores = frys electronics, digi-key, even e-bay will have them floating around...

rgds,
ron g

 

With the upcoming nw versions of the 515, the MDR533/535/537 Series, fans and other OEM parts that will work should become available again at Email parts@funaiservice.com, 1-614-497-2689 ext. 110 (Columbus OH). Same fan has been used in virtually all the Mag models to date.

post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
is there a thread on the new Maggie?
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

is there a thread on the new Maggie?

 

Click 1st link in my sig.

post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rkg22 View Post

hi folks...

again, any computer store that sells actual computer parts ( cpu's, ram, fans, power supplies, etc ) will have a small fan that will work fine.. you won't get the little custom frame, but the innards is separate and an appropriate small cpu type fan matching the dimensions and operating voltage should slide right in and will do the trick... examples of stores = frys electronics, digi-key, even e-bay will have them floating around...

rgds,
ron g
started using the 515 again I really like how easy it is to record w/ plus I need it for a second tuner for picture in picture.

the fan noise is back apparently I did'nt bend the case inward enought I believe the fan is shot.

I've given up on parts@funaiservice.com

and plan on this as a replacement fan. it porbablley a better fan, I mearsured the fan (inside the fan mount it's 2"s X 2"s which is 5CM/ 5CM is = to 50MM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835230035

edit I feel comfortable removing the top cover however not so comfortable removing rear cover so I plan on not removing the rear cover and dissconnect the wires from the PCB plan on just cutting wires at the OEM fan and splicing in the new fans wires.
Thanks STB
Edited by stevethebrain - 6/7/13 at 6:28pm
post #16 of 22
If you can't get the exact replacement part, the specs in the link below might help you find one that will work. The Magnavox recorders use the X-Fan model RDL5012S1 which happens to be the weakest fan on the list with the worst bearing type.

See: http://www.x-fan.com/cn/upload/20130328113426_9900.pdf
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

If you can't get the exact replacement part, the specs in the link below might help you find one that will work. The Magnavox recorders use the X-Fan model RDL5012S1 which happens to be the weakest fan on the list with the worst bearing type.

See: http://www.x-fan.com/cn/upload/20130328113426_9900.pdf

And why does this not surprise me in the least? Many times at work we have purchased expensive gear with some mighty cheap components inside, like fans or power supply boards. After replacing all the bad stuff, the things work reliably for a long time. It's a way of cutting corners and $ on the front end of the process. After it happens enough, you just learn to expect it. sigh
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

And why does this not surprise me in the least? Many times at work we have purchased expensive gear with some mighty cheap components inside, like fans or power supply boards. After replacing all the bad stuff, the things work reliably for a long time. It's a way of cutting corners and $ on the front end of the process. After it happens enough, you just learn to expect it. sigh
It seems most of the fans on these Magnavox recorders last for years and years without any problem, but Steve isn't the only one to have this issue. My 515 fan started acting up just like his but I blame myself for the failure. I had the recorder sitting on top of a AVR that runs very hot. Ironically, excessive heat is very bad for sleeve bearing cooling fans. I was lucky enough to get a replacement fan (plus a spare) from Funai while they still had parts available.

Interesting fan bearing article: Ball vs. Sleeve: A Comparison In Bearing Performance
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

If you can't get the exact replacement part, the specs in the link below might help you find one that will work. The Magnavox recorders use the X-Fan model RDL5012S1 which happens to be the weakest fan on the list with the worst bearing type.

See: http://www.x-fan.com/cn/upload/20130328113426_9900.pdf
I could probabley pursue obtaining the direct fan replacement however I think a better fan will last longer 50K hours according to startech.

The ST fan operates at 12V spins 1500 RPM more than OEM mite be a tad noisie and is 2MM thinner so I'm ordering the ST fan. what do you Guy's think about my plan to just splice the wire?
STB

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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

It seems most of the fans on these Magnavox recorders last for years and years without any problem, but Steve isn't the only one to have this issue. My 515 fan started acting up just like his but I blame myself for the failure. I had the recorder sitting on top of a AVR that runs very hot. Ironically, excessive heat is very bad for sleeve bearing cooling fans. I was lucky enough to get a replacement fan (plus a spare) from Funai while they still had parts available.

Interesting fan bearing article: Ball vs. Sleeve: A Comparison In Bearing Performance
Just for the record the 515 was'nt subjected to a extra heat source was sitting on top of my BD player which is usalley turned off.

The only heat source that could have ruined the fan bearings could have been the house air temp. which during the winter exceeds 85 degrees fanrenhieth. I see the OEM storage temps. are 85 degree's.

When the fan was'nt cooling because it was siezed, I believe the right side of the case where the HDD is was the hottest (one would think the power supply directly in front of the fan would be the hotest) hopefully the HDD is still in good condition.

I'll report back how the new fan turned out.
STB
Edited by stevethebrain - 6/8/13 at 5:09am
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

Just for the record the 515 was'nt subjected to a extra heat source was sitting on top of my BD player which is usalley turned off.
STB
I didn't mean to imply your fan failure was your fault. Sorry about that.
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The ST fan operates at 12V spins 1500 RPM more than OEM mite be a tad noisie and is 2MM thinner so I'm ordering the ST fan.
If it's thinner it might not fit in the cage correctly. You might be able to make up a spacer by tracing the fan body and cutting out some 2mm thick cork or rubber sheet.
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what do you Guy's think about my plan to just splice the wire?
That might work. It looks like you'll have enough slack wire to work with if you are careful.
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
Ken I read you'r procedure in the stickie still unsure of how you removed the rear panel?

also will the start tech computer fan have the same type of connector at the PCB? I was planning on just cutting the yellow wire for fan speed.

yes I was planning a 2mm spacer to fit the fan in the holder snug.

Thanks STB
post #22 of 22
After you take the top cover off, remove all of the screws from the rear panel. The rear panel uses different size screws so don't mix them up. After the screws are removed the rear panel will be hooked to the side of the chassis near the power cord. It isn't difficult to remove.

The Magnavox fan connector is very small. I don't think it's the same as a PC fan.
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