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Props to Electrostatics who provided a great deal at the Springfield, VA, Magnolia! cool.gif
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So I've done some work the past weekends. Forgot to post some pictures. Lots of unexpected issues with ceiling joists not lining up for my surround speakers, some surprising load bearing walls in my way, and unfamiliarity with tools causing holes in my exterior wall. mad.gif

The ceiling required a LOT of extra framing to brace the Def Tech RSS speakers. It's a pain in the arse to install framing members using a small 8" x 9" speaker hole. I wound up buying a Kreg pocket hole drill set just so I could install the framing. The fact that I had TJI-210 engineered I-beam joists doesn't help: you have to "fill in" the I-beam space before you attach framing to the beams.


Surround left ceiling hole. I originally wanted to put the speaker by the smaller hole, but after inspection of the ceiling joists it wouldn't work there. Unfortunately I have to place the two surround speakers closer together than I had wanted.



Surround right ceiling hole with access holes to run the cable down the wall chase.



Speaker terminal port. I didn't plan on cutting the baseboard molding until my drill bit got "stuck in the wall" and I needed more eyes on the situation. Luckily I already had a Dremel flush cut tool that makes removing a random piece of molding fairly easy.



Yeah. Two 1.5" holes in my exterior walls. First time using a Greenlee 921 D'versibit Extension Kit. The auger bit got stuck in the wall. Still need to fix this somehow.



And here are all FIVE random holes in my floor when I couldn't seem to get an access hole through the framing sill. The cables you see are for surround speakers.

Edited by vivatech - 5/29/13 at 4:39am
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This is the current plan for the front stage. Clean and simple. Need to get this done ASAP so I am allowed to go on a bachelor party weekend to Atlantic City. biggrin.gif

There will be significant progress this upcoming weekend.

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So not so much progress as expected. A bit more time spent researching, a lot of cleaning up in my garage so I could actually move around, and a few hours at the home stores trying to figure out why they move products around to different isles and shelves every other week.

Instead of making an entirely new entertainment center as I originally wanted, I went to Ikea and just bought a Besta unit. They finally brought back the medium brown color and that swayed me to make the purchase. Once I get the equipment fully installed I'm going to install solid doors in front of the gear and will be purchasing a RF remote. Probably will try out the Harmony Ultimate or the Harmony Smart Control before a Universal Remote MX-890.


Here's the Besta unit. One of the packs of legs were missing bolts so it's just sitting on the floor for now until I make it back to the local store. I didn't install the cardboard backs to the unit, which tend to help racking motion. From my experience with Ikea furniture, the cardboard inserts never fully address the racking issue and make me concerned about putting heavy loads on their furniture- like TVs.




As expected, my 17" deep Pioneer SC-1522-K AVR doesn't fit in the 15" depth unit. It's centered on the shelf, but it's hanging off the front edge preventing a flush door. Forget about the 4 inches hanging off the back of the unit including wires. Besta units are NOT made for AVRs!





I had big dreams of building out an extension to the back of the unit but then I realized it would have been a lot of work, making me question if I should have just built a custom unit that fits the AVR without an extension. So I came up with an idea of closing off the bottom drawer backs in such a way that it would add rigidity and stability to the unit, addressing the racking problem. After the glue dries overnight I'll finish the MDF so the bright color is not noticeable from the front.

post #36 of 47
Here's your 4" extension: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20038506/
If you feel you need more depth, rip a couple of doors down to the size you want.
You'll also need a hand full of L brackets and flat plates strategically placed, and a tube of cedar caulk if the joints look a bit rough.
I'm doing my den in Besta medium brown and have been looking for "real" pictures of it, Thanks.
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Here's your 4" extension: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20038506/
If you feel you need more depth, rip a couple of doors down to the size you want.
You'll also need a hand full of L brackets and flat plates strategically placed, and a tube of cedar caulk if the joints look a bit rough.
I'm doing my den in Besta medium brown and have been looking for "real" pictures of it, Thanks.

Sweet, thanks. I didn't know they had that piece. A lot of the thicker pieces are hollow core to keep them light and save on materials- have you ripped any doors yet?

The medium brown is a great color. I bought my Galant desk about 8 yrs ago when they first had medium brown. Wish they'd bring it back. I'd rock my office out in it.
post #38 of 47
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Rear surrounds are installed. I need to touch up paint on the ceiling. Based on how well spray painting my front speakers works, I'll consider painting the in-ceilings. They're clearly different shades of white making them stand out.


Left surround:


Right surround. I'm going to keep the access ports in case I decide to go with rear surrounds: rolleyes.gif


Front right cutout and speaker wire fished; I need to go buy some nippers to cut off some exterior nails that are in the way of the speaker box:
post #39 of 47
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More progress!

Front right and left speakers successfully installed. Had some issues running into wall studs. I'm getting some good experience running cables through joists. It's finally coming together and looking good.





Also finished beefing up the Ikea Besta unit with a rear stabilizer. More good practice working with MDF and my new Kreg Pocket Hole Jig. Used Kreg 1-1/4" coarse thread screws. They didn't grab the Ikea pieces that well, but good enough that the unit does not rack to the sides at all. Perfectly stable to put my 60" on top of it while I work on the wall above the fireplace. For painting the MDF I used Kils oil based primer and Valspar "roasted coffee" color latex spray paint. The spray-painted finish is VERY tacky. I don't know how I could have avoided that.


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Any recommendations for cable management?

I've got enough CAT-5e to fill up a 8-port switch, a slew of HDMI, lots of speaker wire, and my octopus of an UPS battery/conditioner. Can't get access without pulling something out inadvertently!


I'm also looking into this AirStone product at Lowe's for application around the fireplace.

What will look good with the blue accent wall: Spring Creek (light grey) or Autumn Mountain (light brown)?

Spring Creek:


Autumn Mountain:

Edited by vivatech - 6/13/13 at 4:50am
post #41 of 47
Hi viva, congrats on getting your in-ceilings installed. I have a question for you about your RSS grills: Are the grills the same color as the bezel?

I recently installed a pair of RSS II's in my i-beam ceiling (and man they just barely fit between the 12 inch on center joists!) and have not yet spray painted my bezel or grills (since I don't have the equipment beyond buying a can of spray paint) -- my grills are definitely more of a cream-white compared to the bezel. I note in your photos it looks like the grill is the same white color as the bezel. Maybe I just got a bad batch of grills?

Jeff
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Hi viva, congrats on getting your in-ceilings installed. I have a question for you about your RSS grills: Are the grills the same color as the bezel?

I recently installed a pair of RSS II's in my i-beam ceiling (and man they just barely fit between the 12 inch on center joists!) and have not yet spray painted my bezel or grills (since I don't have the equipment beyond buying a can of spray paint) -- my grills are definitely more of a cream-white compared to the bezel. I note in your photos it looks like the grill is the same white color as the bezel. Maybe I just got a bad batch of grills?

Jeff

My RLS and RSS grills are the same off-white color as the bezels. The grills appear a slightly different color, perhaps a light beige color, but that might be because they're 1) full of holes or 2) different material (metal grills vs plastic bezel).

Assuming you received your speakers new and not used, it seems to me that DT forgot to paint your grills.

BTW, if your speakers are even somewhat close to another surface, e.g. framing or sheathing, make sure you apply the enclosed foam stickers along that side of the speaker enclosure to prevent damage from and vibrations transferring to the framing members.

-Steve
Edited by vivatech - 6/17/13 at 10:04am
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Removed the fireplace masonry to get my mantel as low as possible. Now I'm attempting to run 1-1/4" orange smurf tube. Just tore apart the wall. What did I get myself into...

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Well, I haven't posted in a while. What a long project this is...

I spent a lot of time back in August figuring out how to safely bore through a 2x4 studded external wall while meeting building code. 1-1/4" conduit is about the largest you can fit since it requires a 1-3/4" hole. If holes are less than 40%, you can just use a protective plate; if holes are 40%-60% of a stud depth, i.e. 1.4"-2.1", you need to double them up otherwise you need stud repair shoes. I had to run conduit through two single studs (required repair) and one triple and one quad (required protection). You can only double up two consecutive studs. Very confusing. I also connected up an additional Ethernet cable and quad-shield f-connector for cable in the box behind the TV. Also installed a surge suppressor receptacle by the floor and ran the TV receptacle off the load terminal of the surge suppressor. I still want to run a 12/2 homerun to the surge suppressor for all my media needs. Whoever planned my electrical layout did not do a good job. Anytime I turn on an appliance or TV my lights all flicker. The homerun will wait until I complete everything else. I have to prioritize.

Anyway, this is what I wound up with:





I ran one conduit for TV hookups and another conduit to my mantel for potential hookups like my bulky Xbox Kinect sensor. The Kinect conduit will be hidden behind the mantel. I had a hard time figuring out how to run conduit for TV; I figured out you can run 1-1/4" conduit into a 26 c.i. electrical box and terminate it neatly. I just had to use a 1-1/2" hole saw to cut through the electrical box. Take a look:


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With all the wiring complete, I I had to tackle finishing the wall. I did not realize how much the drywall would stick out after installing the stud protection and stud shoes. The wall was not at all flat. From the odd shape I cut out of the wall above I had a really hard time trying to mend the joints. I really should have just taken off a full sheet of drywall, which just would have been easier to repair. I spent way too much time trying to teach myself how to skim coat a wall to fix up my drywall blunder.

Start:


Coat 1:


Coat 2:


Coat 3:



At that point I was about 2/3 satisfied. I could not get that last 1/3 completed even after a few more touch-up coats. You can't tell from the pictures, but it was severely bumpy in many places. Sanding only screwed it up more.

I wound up so frustrated with my compromised work product I threw in the trowel and hired a highly rated and extremely inexpensive taper/painter, Pedro, to fix my mess. I spent waaaaay more than $200 in time and supplies trying to figure it out myself when that's all it costed and he got the job done in less than one day. I learned a hard lesson: I am not, and probably will never be, a good taper! My skills lie somewhere else... and they're not in media wall construction either!
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Here's Pedro's amazing job. Vote for Pedro! He quoted me $700 to tape/paint my 2-car garage, including an expoxy floor coating. Pedro is going to get a lot of business from me.

post #46 of 47
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I'm going to pick up some 1x pine boards tomorrow and start construction on the mantel. This is the final mockup:

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And last but not least, I have to show off the newest tool in my garage. Picked her up right before Thanksgiving! I'm so proud of her. Gives me a smile with every pour! I just brewed some rye ale that's about done fermenting. I'm going to attempt my first force carbonation. These side projects are what really derail the main living room construction schedule!!!

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