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post #1 of 16
5/26/12 at 11:31am
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I was looking into purchasing a pair of Studio 100's and 690CC for my new frontstage. I am new to the ht bug and was wondering what amplifier or receiver everyone was using to drive those monsters. It seems alot of people are using the new Emotiva series of amplifiers. Are they capable with 200wpc to make the 100's really shine for serious ht?
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post #2 of 16
5/26/12 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by jburns6113 View Post

I was looking into purchasing a pair of Studio 100's and 690CC for my new frontstage. I am new to the ht bug and was wondering what amplifier or receiver everyone was using to drive those monsters. It seems alot of people are using the new Emotiva series of amplifiers. Are they capable with 200wpc to make the 100's really shine for serious ht?

The Anthem MRX receivers can drive those speakers with lots to spare. I've done it and they sounded great especially with Anthem Room Correction (ARC) included in these receivers. Anthem of course is owned by Paradigm. Unless you are in a very large room and play at very high volume levels, you won't need an external amp.
John
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post #3 of 16
5/26/12 at 11:53am
Whether it is necessary or not is subjective, but I run my 100s with an Anthem MCA 20 driven by a Yamaha RX-A1000.
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post #4 of 16
5/26/12 at 12:02pm
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Whether it is necessary or not is subjective, but I run my 100s with an Anthem MCA 20 driven by a Yamaha RX-A1000.

If it isn't clipping at listening levels it would likely be unnecessary. That isn't subjective.
John
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post #5 of 16
5/26/12 at 12:19pm
How do you determine that it isn't clipping? It can be very hard to detect clipping at moderate listen levels with very dynamic music. Amittedly, the primary reason I chose to add an amplifier was to ensure I didn't damage my speakers. Dynamic range is what can make the difference. This coupled with low noise is what was so astoniishing when the CD was introduced. Anyone who listens to multi-channel music such as Blue Man Group probably can easily exceed the limits of a receiver, depending on their listening level.
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post #6 of 16
5/26/12 at 12:21pm
Studio 100s are high sensitivity (91db) and don't need a lot of ampage to drive. What you should be looking at is a receiver that has the best room correction you can afford. ARC is very good with anthem receives.. So are receivers sporting audyssey.. I have a Yamaha 3010 which drives my studio 100s with ease... But ypao leaves a lot to be desired.
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post #7 of 16
5/26/12 at 12:39pm
Ive used Emotiva XPA5, and UPA1, different times on my 100v5 & 690. Good amps. I now use wyred4sound. Sent you a PM
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post #8 of 16
5/26/12 at 2:47pm
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How do you determine that it isn't clipping? It can be very hard to detect clipping at moderate listen levels with very dynamic music. Amittedly, the primary reason I chose to add an amplifier was to ensure I didn't damage my speakers. Dynamic range is what can make the difference. This coupled with low noise is what was so astoniishing when the CD was introduced. Anyone who listens to multi-channel music such as Blue Man Group probably can easily exceed the limits of a receiver, depending on their listening level.

The studios were tested with the MRX receivers and Anthem/Paradigm's recommendation was no additional amp required unless conditions were as I stated above.
John
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post #9 of 16
5/26/12 at 4:13pm
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Studio 100s are high sensitivity (91db) and don't need a lot of ampage to drive. What you should be looking at is a receiver that has the best room correction you can afford. ARC is very good with anthem receives.. So are receivers sporting audyssey.. I have a Yamaha 3010 which drives my studio 100s with ease... But ypao leaves a lot to be desired.

They measure out just a tick under 90dB which isn't bad, but they are a somewhat demanding load. They hang below 4 ohms for a fairly wide swath and drop to a low of 2.5 ohms. They do work better with a beefy amp. Mine get along pretty well with a QSC PLX 3402.
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post #10 of 16
5/26/12 at 5:01pm
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They measure out just a tick under 90dB which isn't bad, but they are a somewhat demanding load. They hang below 4 ohms for a fairly wide swath and drop to a low of 2.5 ohms. They do work better with a beefy amp. Mine get along pretty well with a QSC PLX 3402.

I have an Anthem A2 amp (beefy) which I use with my 100s and I've tried them with my MRX 500 and there was no difference. at normal listening levels.
John
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post #11 of 16
5/26/12 at 5:41pm
I have an emotiva xpa5 and I heard absolutely no dynamic or sonic improvement between yamahas amps or the emotivas.
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post #12 of 16
5/26/12 at 6:06pm
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I have an emotiva xpa5 and I heard absolutely no dynamic or sonic improvement between yamahas amps or the emotivas.

Exactly. Under normal listening levels there was no difference but if you really crank it up then the separate amp may be beneficial. In my main HT this happens periodically
John
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post #13 of 16
5/26/12 at 6:35pm
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I have an Anthem A2 amp (beefy) which I use with my 100s and I've tried them with my MRX 500 and there was no difference. at normal listening levels.
John

Qualified, sure.

Do you suppose I run +700wpc amps to always play at normal level, like I have a (almost) liter bike just to putz around town?
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post #14 of 16
5/26/12 at 7:24pm
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Qualified, sure.

Do you suppose I run +700wpc amps to always play at normal level, like I have a (almost) liter bike just to putz around town?

Normal isn't quiet, it is quite loud so the receiver can handle that but if you play at very high levels, which most people probably don't, then why waste your money. As I mentioned, if you have a large room and play at very high vol. levels, go ahead and get a separate amp or large displacement bike if you drive well over the speed limit and have a large body
John
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post #15 of 16
5/27/12 at 6:58am
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and have a large body
John


I do have a large body but that's neither here nor there. Doesn't matter to me twisties or flat out, you pick.
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post #16 of 16
5/28/12 at 9:27am
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They measure out just a tick under 90dB which isn't bad, but they are a somewhat demanding load. They hang below 4 ohms for a fairly wide swath and drop to a low of 2.5 ohms. They do work better with a beefy amp. Mine get along pretty well with a QSC PLX 3402.

v4 and v5 not as much as earlier versions.
John
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