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post #31 of 65
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Originally Posted by TheLion View Post

One more thing, Nigel. Can you make a trailer/sample of the cineform encode available to test? Thank you very much!

+1

Just a 30-second clip would be sufficient...
post #32 of 65
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Originally Posted by TheLion View Post

One more thing, Nigel. Can you make a trailer/sample of the cineform encode available to test? Thank you very much!

You can reach me on sales at timescapes of the org variety. I'd love to put up a cineform, I'm totally swamped right now but hopefully in a week or so.
post #33 of 65
In time there surely will be a 4K Redcode version for the Red Ray player, no?
post #34 of 65
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Originally Posted by TheLion View Post

Hi Nigel,

thanks for adding this option. I am afraid $299.- is too rich for me. Can you give me an email contact to discuss this further. I am in the nice position of running my home theater completely by a HTPC setup. So I am good to go with Cineform (I use this format for my own content as well). Is this version 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 12bit encoded?

I have had contact with fugueness in the past discussing matters like Seaton equipment. When he gets excited about something I know I will as well... ;-)

Walter, The $299 option is Cineform 422. You will not be disappointed.
post #35 of 65
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

In time there surely will be a 4K Redcode version for the Red Ray player, no?

Probably, and there will eventually be 4K blu-ray as well. But if you want to play back a 4K film for your 4K projector right now, Cineform is the best option.
post #36 of 65
It's sad there is no 4K (31GB) download option.

Even 140GB isn't much (to me) for download.
post #37 of 65
i'm in for the bd...

good deal on the freebie download when you buy the disk... now to hold out and wait for the disk to arrive and not watch the download...
post #38 of 65
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post


The only thing critical I have to say about the film from the trailer is that the shots of people intermingled with the awesome timelapse photography just doesn't do it for me.

My blu ray arrived today, and I just watched it. The human footage is by far my biggest criticism. The scenic beauty on display here is so awesome that any depiction of human figures is banal by comparison, and jarringly so. I'd pay another $20 for a "rave-free" edit. It also should be said that the 48 minute running time includes a minute of various logos at the beginning, and an incredibly slow 8 minute end credit crawl.

All bitches aside (uh, literally ) there is some fantastic demo material here, and without a doubt this is some of the best looking video ever put to blu ray.
post #39 of 65
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

I'd pay another $20 for a "rave-free" edit.

That's how I felt about Matrix Reloaded.
post #40 of 65
After shipping a few, I thought I'd update you on what's on the hard drive version.

Cineform 12 bit 422 180 Gb 4096 x 2304
Prores 10 bit 422 180 Gb 4096 x 2160
H264 21 Gb 4096 x 2304
H264 12 Gb 4096 x 2304
H264 6 Gb 2560 x 1440
H264 4Gb 1080p
720p
480p
Special features

Cheers!

Nigel
post #41 of 65
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post


I don't see the separation. Beavers build dams, locusts wipe out vegetation, red tides kill countless sea creatures, bacteria and viruses kill of humans in droves, oil naturally seeps up from the depths to pollute soil and water, volcanoes pollute the air and kill off entire populations of animals and humans alike. While our ability for destruction is greater than other animals due to our intellect (or lack thereof) and tools, we're still a spec in the grand scheme and system of the natural order. The opposition of man and nature is illusory. I'd argue that our ability to identify our destructive habits and stop them make us better than other animals - not worse.


I find this thinking to be 2D....you are correct on most accounts, but do beavers build A-Bombs??????????
post #42 of 65
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

The opposition of man and nature is illusory.
Agreed, man is nature.
post #43 of 65
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

I find this thinking to be 2D....you are correct on most accounts, but do beavers build A-Bombs??????????
They probably would if they could in order to defeat the otters of the Allied Atheist Alliance.

If scale or capacity for damage is the dividing line between humanity and the rest of nature, then it is an ambiguous line at best.
post #44 of 65
Thread Starter 
I received my Blu-ray yesterday and I can't wait to pop it in tonight!
post #45 of 65
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

I find this thinking to be 2D....you are correct on most accounts, but do beavers build A-Bombs??????????

They probably would if they could.
post #46 of 65
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Originally Posted by nzastromonkey View Post

After shipping a few, I thought I'd update you on what's on the hard drive version.
Cineform 12 bit 422 180 Gb 4096 x 2304
Prores 10 bit 422 180 Gb 4096 x 2160
H264 21 Gb 4096 x 2304
H264 12 Gb 4096 x 2304
H264 6 Gb 2560 x 1440
H264 4Gb 1080p
720p
480p
Special features
Cheers!
Nigel

Hi Nigel,

did you have time to make a Cineform/ProRes 4k sample yet?

Thank you!
post #47 of 65
What I don't understand is why the Blu Ray has not lossless sound but this DVD quality DD 5.1 track at ~440 Kbit/s. mad.gif
post #48 of 65
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

What I don't understand is why the Blu Ray has not lossless sound but this DVD quality DD 5.1 track at ~440 Kbit/s. mad.gif

Yeah that feels kind of cheap/rushed frown.gif
post #49 of 65
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

What I don't understand is why the Blu Ray has not lossless sound but this DVD quality DD 5.1 track at ~440 Kbit/s. mad.gif
Perhaps they wanted to squeeze every last bit of space with video instead of audio? After all, this is meant to be a visual showcase.
post #50 of 65
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

Perhaps they wanted to squeeze every last bit of space with video instead of audio? After all, this is meant to be a visual showcase.

Well there is a thing called BD50 these days....

Disc Size: 24 207 885 098 bytes
post #51 of 65
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Originally Posted by wesslan1 View Post

Disc Size: 24 207 885 098 bytes
That's lame. I assumed they were using a BD50.
post #52 of 65
And to have a supplement called Behind the music one would think they would want it in the best quality possible.
post #53 of 65
I just got around to watching the Blu ray of this today and it is superb. Some of the best photography or cinematography you can get for blu right now, and easily goes straight to the first shelf for demo material. As for the scenes from Burning Man, I would have preferred more of them, not less. I would have traded a few scenes of some of the trees silhouetted against the night sky for some more partiers, if only to add more variety in subject matter. I am sure there is a lot of interesting visual subjects at Burning Man.
As for the sound, the music encoding is fine. Seriously, who cares when you could never tell the difference between this high quality of compression or lossless? Yeah I would prefer lossless, but I don't feel ripped off. The soundtrack was nice, but it didn't have a tremendously dynamic range so it doesn't matter. Btw, BD50s are more expensive, and I am sure they are trying to cut costs wherever they can. This isn't a huge release, and they will need as many sales as they can get, so they have to keep costs down. How many people are going to spend more than $20 for a 40 min feature? For anyone who cares about timelapse done right, this disc is the best thing since Baraka, and we have Samsarra just around the corner too, that will be a real treat.
post #54 of 65
Lossless sound would have fit on a BD 25 with some more optimisation of image compression. The film is nice eye candy but that's it. Unlike in the classics of this genre there is no overall narrative structure or concept that makes it interesting beyond the eye candy factor.
post #55 of 65
It might not be as pointed as Ron Fricke's or Godfrey Reggio's movies, but, given the scarcity of films in this genre, it is a very welcome addition, to me at least. Keep in mind it doesn't have the budget of those movies either.
post #56 of 65
Yes, a good narrative structure to the imagry is still important on these "non-dialog" type showcase films. That's why Ron and Godfrey are at the top of the heap.

And +3 on a rave-free edit. That's just too wild a juxtaposition in the tenor and vibe of a balanced nature and chaotic man. At least with Fricke, even the hubbub of the human world, especially in the cityscape imagery, is startling and in closer proximity to the nature shots with its use of timelapse and music.
post #57 of 65
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

And +3 on a rave-free edit. That's just too wild a juxtaposition in the tenor and vibe of a balanced nature and chaotic man. At least with Fricke, even the hubbub of the human world, especially in the cityscape imagery, is star

+1, making it +4

Still worth purchasing, however.
post #58 of 65
What is the artifact that ruins the sky in the riding on the river in the canyon scenes?
post #59 of 65
TimeScape / 4kers,

I purchased the cineform hd version of TimeScapes movie so I could have some high quality 4k video to test my LG 84LM9600 Ultra HD TV.

The Cineform file is 4096 x 2304, but tv is 3840 x 2160.

I am using a MacBook Pro Retina Display with OS X Mavericks as my player and it is able to work at 4k @ 30 & 24 FPS with the LG.

My problem is how do I down convert 4096 x 2304 Cineform to a 3840 x 2160 format?

Thanks,

Zebity
post #60 of 65
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Originally Posted by zebity View Post

TimeScape / 4kers,

I purchased the cineform hd version of TimeScapes movie so I could have some high quality 4k video to test my LG 84LM9600 Ultra HD TV.

The Cineform file is 4096 x 2304, but tv is 3840 x 2160.

I am using a MacBook Pro Retina Display with OS X Mavericks as my player and it is able to work at 4k @ 30 & 24 FPS with the LG.

My problem is how do I down convert 4096 x 2304 Cineform to a 3840 x 2160 format?

Thanks,

Zebity

If the LG is working at 2304p, then why the need to convert the file to 2160p? Either the MacBook software player is down-converting the file in real-time to 2160p or the TV can do it internally.
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