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Also consider the BIOS may not allow booting from drives that large. So you'd have to boot from something else first. Once the OS is running most will support larger drives without much trouble.

Bearing in mind that by going with larger volumes you're dramatically increasing your risk and times for recovery. Plan accordingly for what the backup/recovery times will be and any rebuild times if you're going with any form of RAID.
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Thanks for the feed back. I have a few 3TB drives right now, good to know I can probably get away with a 4TB. I use a separate 120GB drive for the OS, so booting would not be an issue.

Plus the drive would be used exclusively to back up my other files, so risk isn't an issue (unless my house burns down). Even then my really important stuff is on a drive that I keep at work.
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Can I assume that since I have yet to hear from Tam that I missed out on this round? If they had 50 available, I should have gotten one based on when I submitted my name. If I missed out, I'll go another route. I hate to do this, but I won't wait another couple of months in the hope they put me on the list. It's not worth the aggravation.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Can I assume that since I have yet to hear from Tam that I missed out on this round? If they had 50 available, I should have gotten one based on when I submitted my name. If I missed out, I'll go another route. I hate to do this, but I won't wait another couple of months in the hope they put me on the list. It's not worth the aggravation.

I would give them a call and let them know you were previously on the list. I went through a similar situation a while back when I asked to be placed on the list (via email) and never got a reply. Nothing against Jason, I'm sure he is a busy guy, but he seems to be hit or miss when it comes to email. When I called and spoke to Andy, she was very helpful and I was able to score a server.

Good luck
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Thanks. I called and had a couple of really pleasant conversations with Kim and Andie. Very nice people. Anyway, they're still processing the servers they have, and it looks like I have a 60-70% chance of getting one in this round. I'm on the borderline. I'll wait.
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Thanks. I called and had a couple of really pleasant conversations with Kim and Andie. Very nice people. Anyway, they're still processing the servers they have, and it looks like I have a 60-70% chance of getting one in this round. I'm on the borderline. I'll wait.

Out of curiosity, how long ago did you get put on the list? Just trying to get a feel for how close I am if at all.

Thanks!
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I can't remember exactly, but it was in the neighborhood of 7-9 weeks ago.
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Anyone interested in my Supermicro X7DBE-X motherboard only? PM me your offer if you are interested.
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I have a UPS tracking number. biggrin.gif
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I have a UPS tracking number. biggrin.gif

Glad to hear it!
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Mine got here early last week and I'm waiting on a few parts to finish up my build. Props to Andy and Jason for helping me get this in. Great server and I can't wait to bring it up online in my home.

I currently have 16TB of redundant storage for my home. It's funny cause I was on the waiting list since last year and I purchased an 8 Bay hot swap server for $60 and the very next day got an email from then offering the new Supermicro server. Go figure! So Now I have two servers and I'm trying to go get more drives and see what I can come up with! lol
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So what do you lose if you replace the 1U PSUs with a standard ATX PSU? Is redundancy the only thing?
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So what do you lose if you replace the 1U PSUs with a standard ATX PSU? Is redundancy the only thing?

Thats it! Most of us are using a UPS Battery Back Up... So redundancy really is not an issue.
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So what do you lose if you replace the 1U PSUs with a standard ATX PSU? Is redundancy the only thing?
Correct. That and you'll likely reduce the noise level SUBSTANTIALLY. Ye gods but the redundant supplies are ferociously LOUD. Granted, in a datacenter you don't care so much about noise, you care about keeping the machines cool and running smoothly.
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Just received an e-mail from TAMS telling me that my wait is over. They have a new shipment in and asked me which configuration I'd like along with the rest of my pertinent info. Now I just have to figure out how to explain it to the wife.wink.gif
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That's sort of what I expected. So I've got a 120mm Fan Wall and I'm going to rip out the 80mm fan wall this weekend and throw in an ATX PSU. I've got an XT650 that I'll try out and order a 750 if need be. I think I might be ok with the 650 though. I've already changed out the rear fans for Arctic F8. I've just been swamped at work this week and didn't have a chance to work on it. Going to be a good weekend project because I have this and a 2U 8-Bay machine that I've put together for a new rack I got. Fun!
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Does anyone else have the Intel version of the Supermicro server running Unraid? I'm sure I saw some references to it as I read the thread several weeks ago, but I couldn't find it with the AVS search. I can see the Unraid USB flash drive in BIOS but haven't been able to select it as the boot drive yet. Is there an Unraid primer buried somewhere in this thread? smile.gif

And yikes, yes, this thing is loud! I wouldn't be surprised if I could hear it from its new home in my basement.
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OK, I've set the Unraid flash drive as the boot drive (had to hit "x" to include it in the boot list) and Unraid seems to load a LOT faster than it did on my old server. Cool!!

I also tried to set the flash drive as removable, but when I pressed "r" to make it removable, there was no confirmation that it had registered it. Is anyone using more than 12 hard drives in Unraid, and is there a problem with the flash still being recognized as the boot drive?
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Anyone able to confirm if H8DME-2 provides pci-passthrough into esxi?
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Thanks for this thread. It was well worth the wait. The Supermicro server appears to be a fully plug and play Unraid box. No muss, no fuss. biggrin.gif I migrated all my drives to it, added a new 3TB parity drive and started a parity check. By sometime tomorrow, if all goes well, I should have a newly configured 39TB array. For years, I've been very lucky with Unraid - no ugly surprises. I hope that trend continues here.

My only complaint is the noise. Even from the basement, it's so noisy it may interfere with my sleeping. Is most of the noise caused by the fans or the power supplies? If it's as I suspect and the small fans are the real screamers, is there a direct fanwall replacement? I don't want to replace the power supplies if I don't have to. If I can reduce the noise by half, I think I can live with it.
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BTW, after an hour of parity writes, the hottest drive is 28 degrees C. I can tell just from putting my hand in front of the hard drives how much air is being pulled through the bays. I don't think heat would ever be a problem with this thing.
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My only complaint is the noise. Even from the basement, it's so noisy it may interfere with my sleeping. Is most of the noise caused by the fans or the power supplies? If it's as I suspect and the small fans are the real screamers, is there a direct fanwall replacement? I don't want to replace the power supplies if I don't have to. If I can reduce the noise by half, I think I can live with it.
I can't confirm this personally since I don't have mine yet, but everyone seems to post that the power supplies are the real noise makers. Since you migrated from an existing setup, why not just use the PSU from the old server? I've got a Corsair 850-watt PSI I'll be transplanting when mine arrives. I also intend to swap out the existing 80mm fans with quieter ones. BTW, reducing the sound level by half is only 3dB. You might want to reduce it a bit more than that.wink.gif
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Yeah, I'd like to knock down the sound level substantially. I'm sure I'll be able to do that, one way or another. I know a 3db reduction cuts the level in half, and I think I'd be able to live with it. I didn't have much of an issue with it last night, but it was perceptible. Looking inside the case, I don't know how a standard power supply would fit. Hopefully it won't involve too much modification. I did see an internal hard drive bay where I could put the Unraid cache drive, freeing up the final external bay for one more SATA drive.

The Supermicro is faster in every way than my old Unraid box. The migration was flawless, even though I added a few older 1.5 and 2TB drives to the array, along with a new 3TB parity and 3TB data drive. Even with 6 additional drives (and a new parity drive), the parity check finished faster than it did with fewer drives. Anyone considering a new Unraid build would be well advised to get on the TAMSolutions list right now. This is a killer deal!
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My bad. All the information I need is in the first post. I'll be making some modifications this week. When all is said and done, this Unraid box will be cooler and probably as quiet as my old one.
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My bad. All the information I need is in the first post. I'll be making some modifications this week. When all is said and done, this Unraid box will be cooler and probably as quiet as my old one.

Sound like you are a happy camper! biggrin.gif
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Sound like you are a happy camper! biggrin.gif

Yes, and thanks again for this thread. biggrin.gif

I just ordered an 850 watt Seasonic power supply from Newegg. My old server used two smaller PSUs in a Coolermaster Stacker case. The power supply swap out might be all I need to quiet the Supermicro enough for my basement. If not, I'll replace the fans.

Actually, this project will allow me to consolidate two Unraid servers. The original, smaller one (only 7.5 TB) will be swallowed up by three larger drives in the Supermicro. I'll be able to sell both the old servers.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Yes, and thanks again for this thread. biggrin.gif

I just ordered an 850 watt Seasonic power supply from Newegg. My old server used two smaller PSUs in a Coolermaster Stacker case. The power supply swap out might be all I need to quiet the Supermicro enough for my basement. If not, I'll replace the fans.

Actually, this project will allow me to consolidate two Unraid servers. The original, smaller one (only 7.5 TB) will be swallowed up by three larger drives in the Supermicro. I'll be able to sell both the old servers.

Glad to hear it...

FYI... The CPU fan is also quite loud... it might even be louder than the case fans... but this is also an inexpensive fix. smile.gif
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I got my system up and running this weekend and I'm pretty happy with it. I swapped out the PSU and I'm using a modular Antec high efficiency model that I had. That with the 120mm fan wall and near silent 80mm back fans...the thing is almost inaudible. Very happy with that.

The bad part.... My build only has the OS drive and 1 of the bay, along with a Ceton InfiniTV 4 in one of the PCI-E slots. Everything else is stock until I get my 2416s today. So last night I got the Ceton in and installed the drivers. I enabled the network tuners and everything went good. I got my two HTPCs up and running and all was well. That is until 10 minutes later when the HTPC loses signal and it can no longer see the InfiniTV or the network drive from the server. I went downstairs and the server appears to be on power light and network light, but I'm unable to wake it up with the keyboard or mouse (usb). I hard power it down and bring it back up. I go back upstairs and watch TV and 10 minutes later...bam, down again. Same issue with the server. So I go into the bios and check that ACPI ver 3 is enabled and it looks like it's configured correctly. I check the power settings in Windows and hibernate is off and sleep is grayed out?

I didn't find any "wake on usb" and I'm going to assume ACPI takes care of that, but obviously that doesn't get to the root cause of why the server is going into a deep sleep in the first place. Any suggestions or things to look for? It was late and I didn't do a whole lot of messing with it, but I can when I get home tonight. It also won't wake up if I try to access the drive from the network. I get a Microsoft Windows error that the local device name is already in use and it cannot be reconnected?

Anyone else experienced this problem?
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Glad to hear it...

FYI... The CPU fan is also quite loud... it might even be louder than the case fans... but this is also an inexpensive fix. smile.gif

The CPU fan in the new Supermicro (at least the one I got) is very quiet. You cannot hear it with the top on the case. I left it stock because it wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by likelinus View Post

I got my system up and running this weekend and I'm pretty happy with it. I swapped out the PSU and I'm using a modular Antec high efficiency model that I had. That with the 120mm fan wall and near silent 80mm back fans...the thing is almost inaudible. Very happy with that.

The bad part.... My build only has the OS drive and 1 of the bay, along with a Ceton InfiniTV 4 in one of the PCI-E slots. Everything else is stock until I get my 2416s today. So last night I got the Ceton in and installed the drivers. I enabled the network tuners and everything went good. I got my two HTPCs up and running and all was well. That is until 10 minutes later when the HTPC loses signal and it can no longer see the InfiniTV or the network drive from the server. I went downstairs and the server appears to be on power light and network light, but I'm unable to wake it up with the keyboard or mouse (usb). I hard power it down and bring it back up. I go back upstairs and watch TV and 10 minutes later...bam, down again. Same issue with the server. So I go into the bios and check that ACPI ver 3 is enabled and it looks like it's configured correctly. I check the power settings in Windows and hibernate is off and sleep is grayed out?

I didn't find any "wake on usb" and I'm going to assume ACPI takes care of that, but obviously that doesn't get to the root cause of why the server is going into a deep sleep in the first place. Any suggestions or things to look for? It was late and I didn't do a whole lot of messing with it, but I can when I get home tonight. It also won't wake up if I try to access the drive from the network. I get a Microsoft Windows error that the local device name is already in use and it cannot be reconnected?

Anyone else experienced this problem?

Sorry to hear about your troubles... The one thing I am sure of is the H8DME-2 motherboard cannot go into deep sleep...So it must be something else.

Did you try reseating the RAM and the SATA Cards (if they are still installed)? Sometimes they come a little loose in transit.
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