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post #1231 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Sorry to hear about your troubles... The one thing I am sure of is the H8DME-2 motherboard cannot go into deep sleep...So it must be something else.

Did you try reseating the RAM and the SATA Cards (if they are still installed)? Sometimes they come a little loose in transit.

I did not try reseating the RAM. I did try reseating the Ceton card. It's just odd that it goes into some weird sleep mode every 10 minutes. I'll try reseating the RAM and other trouble shooting tonight. Good suggestions, thanks.

Oh fyi, this is on Windows 7 Ultimate.
post #1232 of 1459
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Originally Posted by likelinus View Post

I did not try reseating the RAM. I did try reseating the Ceton card. It's just odd that it goes into some weird sleep mode every 10 minutes. I'll try reseating the RAM and other trouble shooting tonight. Good suggestions, thanks.

Oh fyi, this is on Windows 7 Ultimate.

I am running the same OS... 64 bit... No issues. Make sure you update the bios in order for the 2416s to be recognized.
Edited by Litlgi74 - 3/11/13 at 7:06pm
post #1233 of 1459
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Double post
Edited by Litlgi74 - 3/11/13 at 12:48pm
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Got my 2416 and I'll have to update my drivers tonight. I think my mobo revision is 2.1

On another good note, I think I found the culprit for my issue!! The Ceton is plugged into one of the 8x PCI-E slot and I found a setting in the power settings called "Link State Power Management" under PCI Express. It was set to Maximum Power Savings. I changed this to "OFF" and now my HTPCs have been up for the past hour running without the server going down. Yesterday and last night they wouldn't 10 minutes without the server going down. So It appears that this is causing issues with the Ceton having power while trying to send the cable feed to the network tuners.
post #1235 of 1459
I hope I get my email soon from TAMS...I'm itching to get my server built. smile.gif
post #1236 of 1459
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Good news for those on the waiting list

TAMSolutions is expecting to receive part of a new order of servers tomorrow that should take care of most.... if not all of the people on the current waiting list!

Jason from TAMS told me that the new shipment of servers should be very similar to the Supermicros mentioned in this thread... He will give me more specifics tomorrow when they arrive.

Jason also told me that the new units will go through the same check in and testing procedures of the past... So a slight delay will be necessary to insure that the units are properly working before they are shipped.

These new units will more than likely be sold just as quickly as previous batches... One customer on the last waiting list purchased 16 units for himself!

I will post more detailed updates just as soon as I receive them.

It's gonna be an early Christmas for a lot people really soon!
post #1237 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Good news for those on the waiting list
So exciting to hear that...I look forward to the specs tomorrow. Hopefully they are the 4U units smile.gif
post #1238 of 1459
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They will be 4U servers... Both Supermicros and even some of of the original AICs!
post #1239 of 1459
I just received my invoice for a AMD Supermicro server today. Just processed the payment via PayPal so now I'm just waiting for a tracking number. In the mean time, I'm going to finish going through this thread and taking notes along the way. I've already ordered several bags of screws. FWIW, ProVantage has a better price on them than SuperBiiz. Next step is to see about getting some quieter fans. I'm thinking about making a new fan wall out of plexiglass to accommodate some 120mm fans. I figure I can just cut out circular openings for the fans to allow maximum air flow and then put a wire grate over the opening to keep any cables from getting nicked by the fan blades. I can cut some slots along the bottom to feed the cables through to the backplanes. In any case, I'll have to wait until the server arrives before I make a final decision. I've already got a Corsair 850-watt PSU in my current server that I plan on moving to the new chassis.

FYI - TAMS only sends out e-mails on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I received my initial notification last Thursday and the invoice today even though I responded the same day as their first e-mail. If you're on the list, just sit tight. They should get to you eventually.

I understand that the racks don't come with any dummy plastic drive trays to fill empty slots for proper air flow. I was toying with an idea to remedy this since I don't plan on filling the entire rack right away. You should be able to cut some 1x6 pine boards available from your local Lowes or Home Depot into blocks that will simulate a hard drive and fill the void. I initially thought I could use a stock 1x4 since it's got a nominal dimension of 3/4" x 3-1/2". Problem is, a 3-1/2" hard drive is actually about 4 inches wide so that won't work. If you've got access to a table saw or know somebody that can trim the boards for you, just cut a long plank to the proper width and then cut off short lengths about the same size as a hard drive. You can fasten them to the trays using some small flat head wood screws. I've got some Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and they probably use the same dummy trays as the server. They're about 7/8" thick, but a 3/4" block should be enough. If you're concerned it may not be enough, just place a sheet of corrugated cardboard on one surface to make up the difference. Attach it with double-sided tape, glue, or whatever works for you. You could probably just staple it to the surface if you have a staple gun (don't use regular office staples because they may work loose and cause you all sorts of grief if they get into the server).
post #1240 of 1459
My server came with all 24 drive caddies and a bag of screws for attaching them to the hard drives. Right now, it's running just as I received it. The only thing I had to do was set BIOS so that it could boot from my Unraid USB flash drive. I plugged in the Unraid hard drives from my old server (plus a few recycled ones to fill out all 24 bays) and I was up and running. I just got a new Seasonic power supply from Newegg today and will be installing it later in the week, but that may be the only mod I make. It depends on how much the new PS quiets things. This is one SWEET deal!!! biggrin.gif
post #1241 of 1459
Is this the back window for the AIC servers?

post #1242 of 1459
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

I understand that the racks don't come with any dummy plastic drive trays to fill empty slots for proper air flow.
Wood? Ye gods man, who has that much time?

I just cut some card stock paper into an L-shape and taped it into the trays, blocking the front and bottom. Removing that when I added drives.
post #1243 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Carisma View Post

Is this the back window for the AIC servers?


That looks like the back window... but not the entire back of the server...



More detailed images can be found here: http://www.aicipc.com/ProductImage.aspx?ref=RSC-4ED2
post #1244 of 1459
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Wood? Ye gods man, who has that much time?

I just cut some card stock paper into an L-shape and taped it into the trays, blocking the front and bottom. Removing that when I added drives.
If you've got the right tools it takes very little time. I do a little woodworking on the side so it's the first option that came to mind. I'm sure there are lots of ways to obtain the same result.
post #1245 of 1459
This is great news. I've been on the wait list I think since Jan. Just a quick question. What is the difference between Supermicros and original AICs? I can't remember all the things I read near the beginning of the thread. Was one (AICs) for AMD processors and the Supermicros for intel?

TIA

Elviso
post #1246 of 1459
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Originally Posted by elviso33 View Post

This is great news. I've been on the wait list I think since Jan. Just a quick question. What is the difference between Supermicros and original AICs? I can't remember all the things I read near the beginning of the thread. Was one (AICs) for AMD processors and the Supermicros for intel?

TIA

Elviso

The specs for the two different types are still in the first post... The only real physical difference is server chassis.

Supermicro Chassis and AIC Chassis

But the modifications needed to make these servers quiet enough for most home users are quite different.

Check out the first post for all the details on the modifications I made to each server...
post #1247 of 1459
You can get the AMD version with either a dual core or quad core CPU, depending on what they have on hand. What was strange was that the e-mail I initially received from TAMS listed the two types of AMD configurations and the price for each but then they asked me whether I wanted the AMD or Intel version. They never listed anything with the Intel CPU in the e-mail. It wasn't an issue since I wanted the AMD version anyway. What was puzzling to me was that they wanted an additional $50 to go with the quad core CPU when they are available on ebay for far less.
post #1248 of 1459
They were sending a standard e-mail message. I got the last Intel server they had because I responded within an hour or so of getting the e-mail. At that point, they had only AMD servers left.
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Has anyone had any experience with these fans? They appear to be a new product as I can't find any reviews on them anywhere.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186031

They're PWM fans that can be daisy-chained from a single 4-pin motherboard connector. I don't know if they're in the same category as the Nexus fans, but I don't need them to be dead silent. My current server uses Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and the fans are quite loud, but behind closed doors so I can barely hear them. I recall that I tried swapping out the stock fans with 120mm Nexus fans and the temperature rose significantly so I went back to the original fans. These fans are only $8.55 apiece with free shipping if I order five of them for my upcoming Supermicro server case. They also have fluid dynamic bearings so they should last quite a while. They move more air than the Nexus fans, which is important for keeping the drives cool.
post #1250 of 1459
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Has anyone had any experience with these fans? They appear to be a new product as I can't find any reviews on them anywhere.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186031

They're PWM fans that can be daisy-chained from a single 4-pin motherboard connector. I don't know if they're in the same category as the Nexus fans, but I don't need them to be dead silent. My current server uses Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and the fans are quite loud, but behind closed doors so I can barely hear them. I recall that I tried swapping out the stock fans with 120mm Nexus fans and the temperature rose significantly so I went back to the original fans. These fans are only $8.55 apiece with free shipping if I order five of them for my upcoming Supermicro server case. They also have fluid dynamic bearings so they should last quite a while. They move more air than the Nexus fans, which is important for keeping the drives cool.

I do not...however it appears to be the same fan as their cpu cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

of which I had some variant of...I remember it being pretty quiet though I did not test with out case fans running.
post #1251 of 1459
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

Has anyone had any experience with these fans? They appear to be a new product as I can't find any reviews on them anywhere.

I mentioned in my first post.... that I am using these ARCTIC COOLING F8 PWM 80mm which are similar to ones you posted.

Quiet enough for me.
post #1252 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

I mentioned in my first post.... that I am using these ARCTIC COOLING F8 PWM 80mm which are similar to ones you posted.

Quiet enough for me.
Yeah, I saw those. The ones I referenced appear to be a different model.
post #1253 of 1459
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

Yeah, I saw those. The ones I referenced appear to be a different model.

You might have some difficulty mounting these on the fan wall... the Supermicro wall uses brackets that allow fans with a more traditional form factor to just snap in.
post #1254 of 1459
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

Has anyone had any experience with these fans? They appear to be a new product as I can't find any reviews on them anywhere.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186031

They're PWM fans that can be daisy-chained from a single 4-pin motherboard connector. I don't know if they're in the same category as the Nexus fans, but I don't need them to be dead silent. My current server uses Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and the fans are quite loud, but behind closed doors so I can barely hear them. I recall that I tried swapping out the stock fans with 120mm Nexus fans and the temperature rose significantly so I went back to the original fans. These fans are only $8.55 apiece with free shipping if I order five of them for my upcoming Supermicro server case. They also have fluid dynamic bearings so they should last quite a while. They move more air than the Nexus fans, which is important for keeping the drives cool.


I think you want these. I used 5 of them. I think you connect each of the 1 wire sensors to the motherboard and the 4 pin connectors get daisy chained to a molex connector.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186072
post #1255 of 1459
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Originally Posted by toohip View Post

I think you want these. I used 5 of them. I think you connect each of the 1 wire sensors to the motherboard and the 4 pin connectors get daisy chained to a molex connector.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186072

biggrin.gif The are they same as the ones on ebay... and cost about $2 more a fan. biggrin.gif
post #1256 of 1459
Waiting for this email is making me feel like a crackhead looking for a fix cool.gif
post #1257 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Carisma View Post

Waiting for this email is making me feel like a crackhead looking for a fix cool.gif

Me too!
post #1258 of 1459
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

biggrin.gif The are they same as the ones on ebay... and cost about $2 more a fan. biggrin.gif
Just purchased five of them from your ebay seller. Thanks for the link. biggrin.gif

Now I need to see what sort of CPU cooler I can install on this thing (AMD socket F).

P.S. Just so you know, the ebay vendor turned out to be Superbiiz under a different user name on ebay.
Edited by captain_video - 3/16/13 at 11:03am
post #1259 of 1459
Any news from TAMS? I've been waiting for 1 server myself from them......
post #1260 of 1459
If you haven't heard from them then chances are your name hasn't come up yet on the waiting list. It's first come, first served. You just need to be patient and they'll notify you as soon as they get enough servers in to satisfy the current demand. They only send out e-mails on Tuesdays and THursdays so maybe they'll still get to you this week if they have enough in stock.
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