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post #571 of 2256
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Originally Posted by CloudVader View Post

Are these new servers ever going to show up on eBay? I've been waiting to buy one that way, but I'm wondering if maybe I'm just better off emailing them directly.

email or call him
I believe, they are busy processing orders while removing HDs that not part on the server sale.

I got good responses from (a n d y), they firm on $269+S/H for previous buyer or $299+S/H

he quoted me ~$90 for S/H
Edited by bima - 8/10/12 at 11:24am
post #572 of 2256
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he quoted me ~$90 for S/H

"she" wink.gif
post #573 of 2256
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Originally Posted by tazmizzaz View Post

Thanks to this thread and a little creativity I've just finished building my new monster (8U) of a server. Thought I would share it with you all to stir up some more creativity:
Front:

Back:

Top View:

Angles:


Basically its 2 of the Xeon servers bolted together. Cut a hole through one, rebuilt the motherboard tray. Added a Norco fan wall and a new Norco back + a second Norco fan wall as the top back. I predrilled and countersunk screw holes for a third Norco fan wall should I find that I want extra cooling later. With the physical size of the case heat buildup is a far, far smaller concern than it would be with a single 4U box.
Specs:
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Case: 2x 4U AIC RSC-4ED2 (modded heavily)
Motherboard: Supermicro X7DBE-X
Processor: 2x Intel Quad Core E5430
RAM: 16 GB DDR2 Memory (original memory from the 2 servers, have a set of 32 GB coming)
Hard Drive: 320 GB SATA OS Drive
Hard Drive Trays: 4 SATA drives for testing (have 14ish more to add soon)
PSU: PC Power & Cooling 750W (since I'm building for lots of extra space I went with low cost PSU, and made it easy to swap out if I find I'm running it hard)
Controller Cards: 6x SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 (48 bays!!!)
OS: Windows Server 2012 + Hyper-V
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Taking the server apart and hacking, drilling, countersinking, rebuilding etc. took about a week and a bit of part time effort. Its quite quiet now but I would consider replacing the CPU heatsink fans if I was going to have this thing sitting inside my office all day (they are the quietest of all the original fans but still louder than my desktop). Fortunately it'll be going in a server rack and won't really bother me at all.
For anyone looking for screws for the HDD trays, you can easily scrounge them from the parts you strip off. For instance each original PSU has 12 coarse thread counter sunk screws. Couple more from the case and your sitting quite nicely.

This looks pretty sweet. Realistically though, you will need to replace that PSU should you come anywhere close to filling up both units though, right?

Also, could you post some more pictures of the sides and how you joined the two together? I imagine if this thing is ever picked up, the moving would have to be done very carefully and by two people.
post #574 of 2256
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Originally Posted by mexicanmike03 View Post

This looks pretty sweet. Realistically though, you will need to replace that PSU should you come anywhere close to filling up both units though, right?
Also, could you post some more pictures of the sides and how you joined the two together? I imagine if this thing is ever picked up, the moving would have to be done very carefully and by two people.

As I did say in my post I do figure on the need to eventually replace the PSU. PSU's above ~700 Watt though tend to increase in price at an exponential rate so it is much much cheaper to buy what I need now and upgrade later as prices on PSU's also come down (or a crazy good sale shows up).

In addition I am not running full time RAID sets or anything that is likely to have more than a few drives spinning at the same time thus reducing the idle power use of 48 drives to around 1 Watt per drive or < 50 Watts with only a few drives pulling active power thus making it highly likely that I may not actually ever hit 75% pull on my PSU anyways. I also count on increasing energy efficiency of drives in general to reduce the climbing power requirements and that will also ensure I may not need to upgrade the PSU either.


The 2 cases are held together by 4 heavy bolts and 1 lighter bolt at the back. It is crazy solid and there is absolutely zero need to be delicate with it (just moved it actually and yup super solid). I plan on moving it around with 2 people due to the sheer size but it weighs less than a single one did previously.

Large bolts:


Small bolt:


The cuts in the "bottom" or middle of the case were a little sharp (tried to smooth them but it just wasn't enough for my taste). So I found some heavy weight (25 mill) rubber tape and applied it all the way around the cut edges between the cases to ensure that no sharp edges are around to catch on anyones hands.

And to Litlgi74 it is awesome, and I am crazy excited that its done finally. Thanks for the initial inspiration to take the first step.
Edited by tazmizzaz - 8/10/12 at 3:59pm
post #575 of 2256
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Originally Posted by tazmizzaz View Post

As I did say in my post I do figure on the need to eventually replace the PSU. PSU's above ~700 Watt though tend to increase in price at an exponential rate so it is much much cheaper to buy what I need now and upgrade later as prices on PSU's also come down (or a crazy good sale shows up).
In addition I am not running full time RAID sets or anything that is likely to have more than a few drives spinning at the same time thus reducing the idle power use of 48 drives to around 1 Watt per drive or < 50 Watts with only a few drives pulling active power thus making it highly likely that I may not actually ever hit 75% pull on my PSU anyways. I also count on increasing energy efficiency of drives in general to reduce the climbing power requirements and that will also ensure I may not need to upgrade the PSU either.
The 2 cases are held together by 4 heavy bolts and 1 lighter bolt at the back. It is crazy solid and there is absolutely zero need to be delicate with it (just moved it actually and yup super solid). I plan on moving it around with 2 people due to the sheer size but it weighs less than a single one did previously.
Large bolts:

Small bolt:

The cuts in the "bottom" or middle of the case were a little sharp (tried to smooth them but it just wasn't enough for my taste). So I found some heavy weight (25 mill) rubber tape and applied it all the way around the cut edges between the cases to ensure that no sharp edges are around to catch on anyones hands.
And to Litlgi74 it is awesome, and I am crazy excited that its done finally. Thanks for the initial inspiration to take the first step.

This is an awesome mod and one that I would love to do.

May I make a suggestion... one of these cables will help you piggy-back dual PSUs into one system: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31562

Plug that cable into your mobo then both PSUs into the cable. When the mobo fires up the main PSU it will also power up the secondary PSU at the same time that way you can power the second set of HDDs with no problems.
post #576 of 2256
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Originally Posted by tazmizzaz View Post

As I did say in my post I do figure on the need to eventually replace the PSU. PSU's above ~700 Watt though tend to increase in price at an exponential rate so it is much much cheaper to buy what I need now and upgrade later as prices on PSU's also come down (or a crazy good sale shows up).
In addition I am not running full time RAID sets or anything that is likely to have more than a few drives spinning at the same time thus reducing the idle power use of 48 drives to around 1 Watt per drive or < 50 Watts with only a few drives pulling active power thus making it highly likely that I may not actually ever hit 75% pull on my PSU anyways. I also count on increasing energy efficiency of drives in general to reduce the climbing power requirements and that will also ensure I may not need to upgrade the PSU either.
The 2 cases are held together by 4 heavy bolts and 1 lighter bolt at the back. It is crazy solid and there is absolutely zero need to be delicate with it (just moved it actually and yup super solid). I plan on moving it around with 2 people due to the sheer size but it weighs less than a single one did previously.
Large bolts:
The cuts in the "bottom" or middle of the case were a little sharp (tried to smooth them but it just wasn't enough for my taste). So I found some heavy weight (25 mill) rubber tape and applied it all the way around the cut edges between the cases to ensure that no sharp edges are around to catch on anyones hands.
And to Litlgi74 it is awesome, and I am crazy excited that its done finally. Thanks for the initial inspiration to take the first step.

Thanks so much for the additional pics... This is so my next build!!! These mods make perfect sense on many levels... Especially with the extra slots on the Intel (old server batch) mobo!

I initially chatted with Killroy about doing something similar... but I only went as far as considering eliminating the guts of the second unit and running extra long SATA cables from one box to the other...

Did you eliminate the mobo tray or did you go the speedball route... eliminating the need to dill holes for the brass standoffs?

As far as the need for a larger PSU... will you really need one? Because my server is setup with a software RAID, using only one drive at a time.... except when creating parity.... I rarely go over 320W.

THIS IS JUST AWESOME!!!!
Edited by Litlgi74 - 8/10/12 at 7:26pm
post #577 of 2256
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Originally Posted by mexicanmike03 View Post

Agreed. Call them up, they are extremely helpful and have been great to work with. I have done most my communication with them over email, as I am at work all the time, but they have been stellar. Here is the info so you don't have to dig through the 20 pages of posts to find it.
jdye@tamsolutions.com
tamsolutions@hotmail.com
801-796-1696
Edit: Just spotted Litlgi74 has this on the first post, my bad. Hopefully it made it easier for 1 person.

As far as posting these machines to ebay... Jason from TamSolutions says at this point there is no need for an ebay listing.... They are selling very well via this thread and word of mouth.

That being said... there are only about 50 machines remaining... so if you want one... contact Jason ASAP....

It could be up to a few months before they recieve any additional units.... but they are expecting more.

Also... they do have about 18 Supermicro 2U servers and a handful of the older 4U Intel versions... I am not sure of pricing.
post #578 of 2256
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Hey Taz...

I hope you don't mind... but I am going to give this a shot... but I am planning on making a few mods to your mods biggrin.gif

I was thinking... smile.gif It might be much easier (in theory) leaving the motherboard tray and back window untouched on the bottom server... while altering only the "back window" of the top server. This way... you can easily mount the PSU in the open space as well as not having to drill and tap any holes for the repositioning of the motherboard and its stand offs... I would probably still add the norco fan wall to one or both of the indiviual boxes!

Here is a crude photochop of what I was thinking.



Thanks again for this awesome idea!
Edited by Litlgi74 - 8/10/12 at 8:03pm
post #579 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

I initially chatted with Killroy about doing something similar... but I only went as far as considering eliminating the guts of the second unit and running extra long SATA cables from one box to the other...

Just use proper SAS external cables! You can even use a SATA-to-SAS forwarding cable and bracket inside your host machine if you don't have a card with external SAS ports.

The proper way to go about it is to use a SAS host adapter with external ports; one that supports using an external expansion board. This way you run a cable from the back of the host PC to the storage box. Which could be just a gutted PC case. Then you'd use an expander inside of it to breakout from the SAS cable to the individual drives. You can use multiple expanders and connections from the host. You don't 'have to' use an expander though. I used a pair of passive SATA-infiniband adapters to rig up a similar setup some time ago. I've since moved to the consolidated 24 bay chassis instead. If/when there's need for more I'll use the external SAS ports.

Truth be told that 8U beast looks like a lot more trouble than it's worth. I'd be very, very skeptical about proper airflow through a box like that.
post #580 of 2256
just my opinion:
8U is heavy and not practical smile.gif
my current solution is added another enclosure.case with minisas connector to another enclosure/server case. this is a neat solution and adaptable way (for me)

my other consideration, SAT2-MV8 is slowwwwwwwwww on reading/writing hehe. it can detect 3T HDs without issue smile.gif, my old adaptec RAID 3805 is much better that SAT2-MV8. please remember, my Hardware Adaptec RAID is pretty old, and can not compete with LSI-9240 or 9211 (HBA card).



I change my direction to use only one SAT2-MV8 where reside running ZFS pool (lazy to recreate...), and add extra pci-express HBA card.
I just bought 6 ports Ethernets card pci-X for ~$12 including S/H, try to see whether pass-through esxi 5 is happy or not.
actually bought onother 6 ports ethernet card PCI-express for$49 includiing S/H, this is a back up plan when 6 ports ethernet PCI-X does play nicely on esxi5

^^^
all are in VM under esxi5, try to reduce power consumption, I did the calculation that would save my electricity bill around 30%-40% ( $20-$25/month) by consolidating non critical servers into one box VM bare metal.


if anyone interested 6 ports pci-express, search on 3bay-> Silicom PEG6i
Article talking about Silicom PEG6i vt-d/iommu passthrough on esxi5 -> http://www.servethehome.com/dell-silicom-peg6i-6x-gigabit-gige-intel-82571eb-network-adapter-esxi-50-vsphere-vtd-iommu-passthrough/

if none care about slow writing/reading on SAT2-MV8, that card can be a perfect solution.
Edited by bima - 8/11/12 at 5:55am
post #581 of 2256
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Originally Posted by bima View Post

I just bought 6 ports Ethernets card pci-X for ~$12 including S/H, try to see whether pass-through esxi 5 is happy or not.
What would require 6 ports? Is there that much traffic that you'd be swamping the virtual switch in ESXi?
post #582 of 2256
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my other consideration, SAT2-MV8 is slowwwwwwwwww on reading/writing hehe.

I am using my machines as file servers... and for nothing else.... All my content, 90% Bluray rips, stream perfectly to my three Dune media players simultaneously with out a hiccup, glitch and or stutter.

The speed of the SAT2-MV8s are more than adequate for my needs.
post #583 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Hey Taz...
I hope you don't mind... but I am going to give this a shot... but I am planning on making a few mods to your mods biggrin.gif
I was thinking... smile.gif It might be much easier (in theory) leaving the motherboard tray and back window untouched on the bottom server... while altering only the "back window" of the top server. This way... you can easily mount the PSU in the open space as well as not having to drill and tap any holes for the repositioning of the motherboard and its stand offs... I would probably still add the norco fan wall to one or both of the indiviual boxes!
Here is a crude photochop of what I was thinking.
Thanks again for this awesome idea!

Certainly looks like the process would be easier. With only 4 small fans on the back though you are likely going to be capped at < 30CFM each or extra noise. If you opened up the PCI slots on the top back window to add another fan or two you should have nice solid airflow heading out of the case and likely enough to avoid a requirement of a second middle fan wall. As you can imagine the maximum speed that air leaves the case is actually your maximum cooling, so additional openings with a helpful fan would give that extra push for coldness without noise.

If you pulled the power unit out and cut the front wiring mess out you will also gain a fair bit of quality airflow as well.

I took the speedbal route. It does take a little more effort in total but the result is a solid motherboard tray which will easily adapt to other motherboards if I need it to over time. Speedbal didn't indicate how the tray was held in to the box so what I did was gently drill pilot holes through some of the mobo standoffs (they go right through the tray) and then drill them out full size without the tray in place (I think I did 4 or 5). Once done I carefully countersunk the screwholes and used some recovered countersunk screws from the case to hold the tray solidly in place. I actually left the tray extra wide on the PSU side so I would have ziptie wings available should I so desire.

The hardest part was I didn't secure the tray in place before drilling the holes and had to drill a second time after securing the tray down around on the outside edge.

I plan on occasionally checking the power consumption with a KillAWatt unit just to make sure I don't suck more than about 75% of the PSU abilities. All considered though I figure I should be nice and solid for quite some time to come.
post #584 of 2256
Airflow is not just about total volume, it's about WHERE the flow is happening. The lack of a fan wall right in front of the drives means there's likely going to be very uneven distribution through the drive assemblies. Drives and heat are not a good combo. But even by pulling more air you're still not guaranteeing that all drives will get enough of it. That just makes more noise and gets little to show for it.
post #585 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

I am using my machines as file servers... and for nothing else.... All my content, 90% Bluray rips, stream perfectly to my three Dune media players simultaneously with out a hiccup, glitch and or stutter.
The speed of the SAT2-MV8s are more than adequate for my needs.
good for you smile.gif
not adequate for me :P..
post #586 of 2256
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Originally Posted by wkearney99 View Post

Airflow is not just about total volume, it's about WHERE the flow is happening. The lack of a fan wall right in front of the drives means there's likely going to be very uneven distribution through the drive assemblies. Drives and heat are not a good combo. But even by pulling more air you're still not guaranteeing that all drives will get enough of it. That just makes more noise and gets little to show for it.

From dissecting the study that Google did, the main killer of drives isn't so much heat as it is temperature fluctuation--going with that 8U design does mean uneven air flow, which could certainly induce bigger temperature swings than just using a pair of 4U cases. I've concluded at this point that when I outgrow the capacity of the AIC case, I'll be using external SAS cabling to connect expander boxes, rather than going with another 4U setup like this.
post #587 of 2256
I have a buddy that bought himself a real nice $20,000 rice burner and spent close to $30,000 to make it a 5-second car. I went out and bought a $5,000 old muscle car and spent only $10,000 to make it a 5-second car.

My point.... Right tool for the right job. These boxes came from " data centers" and we're designed for storage, not performance.

/rant
post #588 of 2256
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Originally Posted by tazmizzaz View Post

I took the speedbal route. It does take a little more effort in total but the result is a solid motherboard tray which will easily adapt to other motherboards if I need it to over time. Speedbal didn't indicate how the tray was held in to the box so what I did was gently drill pilot holes through some of the mobo standoffs (they go right through the tray) and then drill them out full size without the tray in place (I think I did 4 or 5). Once done I carefully countersunk the screwholes and used some recovered countersunk screws from the case to hold the tray solidly in place. I actually left the tray extra wide on the PSU side so I would have ziptie wings available should I so desire.
The hardest part was I didn't secure the tray in place before drilling the holes and had to drill a second time after securing the tray down around on the outside edge.
I plan on occasionally checking the power consumption with a KillAWatt unit just to make sure I don't suck more than about 75% of the PSU abilities. All considered though I figure I should be nice and solid for quite some time to come.

Sorry I didn't go into more detail. Back of mobo tray is held by the backplane of the case (honestly...i doesn't move a bit by the due to downward pressure on the back). I put some Heavy Duty double sided tape (velcro could have worked as well) to be finalize it. This server won't move much (if ever) so I was satisfied with this approach. The best most secure way would have probably been drilling/tapping/screwing (like Taz), but it just isn't needed for my needs. Be happy to answer any further questions you have.

Server up and running now with UNRAID (just need to procure some HDs...). Overall very pleased with my build. Future plans:

Replacing Processor Heatsink/Fan - loudest thing in my server now and it whines a bit for my tastes
LackRack (http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack ) - this is really all I need. Plan to add brackets to support given the beasts weight
Whatever else I can dream up
Edited by speedbal - 8/11/12 at 9:01am
post #589 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I have a buddy that bought himself a real nice $20,000 rice burner and spent close to $30,000 to make it a 5-second car. I went out and bought a $5,000 old muscle car and spent only $10,000 to make it a 5-second car.
My point.... Right tool for the right job. These boxes came from " data centers" and we're designed for storage, not performance.
/rant

Bad example - buying one of these is more like getting the old, slightly beat-up $5k car and spending the money to make it a beast with lots of storage. Buying a brand-new Dell/HP/Lenovo desktop, then spending the money to try making it into a beast with lots of storage is more like the rice burner :P

The only thing I was interested in from these server deals was the excellent chassis - no reason it can't also have lots of performance, because the guts are the same regardless of the chassis.
post #590 of 2256
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Originally Posted by mcturkey View Post

Bad example - buying one of these is more like getting the old, slightly beat-up $5k car and spending the money to make it a beast with lots of storage. Buying a brand-new Dell/HP/Lenovo desktop, then spending the money to try making it into a beast with lots of storage is more like the rice burner :P
The only thing I was interested in from these server deals was the excellent chassis - no reason it can't also have lots of performance, because the guts are the same regardless of the chassis.

I disagree... These boxes have legacy server parts. Server class mobo, server class HBAs, server grade PSUs, server class RAM. If you want "performance" you need to swap out the engine and a nice wide open turbo engine. The chassis is just the outside and that does not matter when it comes to speed.

Server class was designed for durability and longevity. You turn it on and it will run forever. That is why I like these. They will probably outlive any, and probably all, of my other hardware.

If you want performance, don't get a storage unit, get yourself a nice small 1U or 2U box or a regular case and high end mobo and HBAs.

Putting a Ferrari engine in a dump truck does not make it a race car.
post #591 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I disagree... These boxes have legacy server parts. Server class mobo, server class HBAs, server grade PSUs, server class RAM. If you want "performance" you need to swap out the engine and a nice wide open turbo engine. The chassis is just the outside and that does not matter when it comes to speed.
Server class was designed for durability and longevity. You turn it on and it will run forever. That is why I like these. They will probably outlive any, and probably all, of my other hardware.
If you want performance, don't get a storage unit, get yourself a nice small 1U or 2U box or a regular case and high end mobo and HBAs.
Putting a Ferrari engine in a dump truck does not make it a race car.

Considering that when you're making a 5-second car, there is nothing stock about the engine anymore, I think your analogy still fails. When you're making a 5-second car, the chassis is what you are getting, whether you bought a $20k ricer or a $5k muscle car - everything else is being gutted and replaced for performance.

There is no difference in "performance" between a 1U/2U/3U/4U chassis. The question is, what do you want to do with it? From the title of this thread, the whole point of buying one of these systems was to get a cheaper chassis that could hold 24 drives. There is little reason to leave this server as-is and get a 1U server separately to stick new, faster components in when you can just as easily get the same performance in a single package, and without sucking down even more electricity. I'm really pretty baffled by your comparison, because I could have put the same mobo/proc/memory into a smaller chassis, and gained only an increase in my monthly power bill. Unlike cars, computers are way more flexible.
post #592 of 2256
My point is that a 24-drive set up should not be turned into a performance machine. You are going to kill any performance you have when that many drives are attached. You will never see a storage unit run as fast as a 2 or 4 drive RAID box no matter what engine you put in it.

This is a dump truck. Not a race car.
post #593 of 2256
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

My point is that a 24-drive set up should not be turned into a performance machine. You are going to kill any performance you have when that many drives are attached. You will never see a storage unit run as fast as a 2 or 4 drive RAID box no matter what engine you put in it.
This is a dump truck. Not a race car.

not in my understanding

the server case is a highperformace ehem solid server case.
there as many simple way to make a better reusage of server:
1) used motherboard with vt-d( mine was workstation, do not need to buy)
2) replace HBA/SATA Card when needed
3) add/replace Ethernert Card.
4) many others,

I see a storage unit can run pretty fast(depend on my/your scenario). just need a tweak and well design plan
HBA card is pretty good too... suchas LSi92XX series..
for examples: make two storage device instead of one, use higher bandwidth ethernet card or others.

I make mine is not a super-duper machine, just serves me well all my needs, It is a "performance" machine for me.

Not, this is not a dump truck for me., this a BUS smile.gif

just my opinion :P heheh

this is up to everyone, wanna be a dump truck, bus or others smile.gif, please pick one hehe


oops., just let everyone know, SAT2-MV8 is NOT HBA card, it is just a dummy SATA 3G card:)
the HBA card example, LSI1068 (3G generarition ) or LSI2008 (6G generation(
post #594 of 2256
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Originally Posted by wkearney99 View Post

What would require 6 ports? Is there that much traffic that you'd be swamping the virtual switch in ESXi?

pass-through for VMs.
basically, only 3 dual port ethernet chips on the board, maximum passthrough is 3 (with each is dual port).


Not to use vswitch much. vswitch is usefull for internal network in esxi.
I would do to utilize vswitch, when 10G ethernet card and switch prices are at the current price for 1G ethernet.
10G ethernet products are still expensive!!!



6 ports that I bought is "cheap", I can not resist eheheh
post #595 of 2256
Quick question to the OP why did you remove the original power supplies from the machine and put in another?

Thanks,

Neil
post #596 of 2256
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Originally Posted by heffneil View Post

Quick question to the OP why did you remove the original power supplies from the machine and put in another?
Thanks,
Neil

I didn't. Did I post something somewhere that I did?
post #597 of 2256
Technically if you saved the whole power supply assembly, the tray and the back window panel and blower fans you could install that into another 4U case. Provided it was wide enough. Only a few 4U cases are this wide. I think most are the same width as a Norco. This to allow for normal, heavy-weight rails to fit on the outside of the case. The original unit requires some pretty thin rails in order to fit into a regulation 19" rack width.
post #598 of 2256
Got mine the other day. Have power system and fans pulled. Waiting on fans now and gonna use power supply from old tower system. Was too loud for my current setup.

Just have 1 question at the moment. How are you suppose to populate the drives in a system like this when only adding a drive or two at a time ? I have 10 storage drives i'm gonna be transferring from my old tower system. Do you just follow the way they are numbered on the back plane ?
post #599 of 2256
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Originally Posted by OneFast3 View Post

Got mine the other day. Have power system and fans pulled. Waiting on fans now and gonna use power supply from old tower system. Was too loud for my current setup.
Just have 1 question at the moment. How are you suppose to populate the drives in a system like this when only adding a drive or two at a time ? I have 10 storage drives i'm gonna be transferring from my old tower system. Do you just follow the way they are numbered on the back plane ?

Are the drives JBOD and do they already have data on them? If the drives are NTFS and are going into and NTFS system... just pop them into the new machine. The drive letters (except for C:) should automatically be recognized and reassigned.
post #600 of 2256
Perhaps I am confused but the first post talks about modifying the supermicro case? I am just not sure why you didn't use the supplied power supplies...

Neil
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