or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Receivers, Amps, and Processors › Onkyo TX-NR818 "official" owner's thread discussion
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Onkyo TX-NR818 "official" owner's thread discussion - Page 56

post #1651 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

guys i called onecall today and they told me that they can give me the 818 for 780 shipped no tax plus the Onkyo Wireless Dongle as a bonus, should i pull the trigger? or you think the price will drop more towards labor day etc?

Sink the hook and reel it in.

butter and jelly please.
post #1652 of 9529
Is onecall an authorized dealer? Warranty won't be valid if not.
post #1653 of 9529
beezar--

I purchased my 818 from OneCall after reading this on their site.

OneCall is an authorized dealer for all the major brands you see on our site. That means we have an official relationship with the companies that produce our products and have agreed to abide by their strict standards of practice and service.

Hope that helps.
post #1654 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by beezar View Post

Is onecall an authorized dealer? Warranty won't be valid if not.

Just a few posts ago someone posted the link to the Onkyo list of authorized sellers...
post #1655 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

I would venture the 3009 is within 20% of the energy usage of 3009 in standby modes.

I think it would be within 1%biggrin.gif
post #1656 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

I would venture the 3009 is within 20% of the energy usage of 3009 in standby modes.

I think it would be within 1%biggrin.gif

Me too. I was being generous.

butter and jelly please.
post #1657 of 9529
Ok, no more audio and video dropouts for me. Before, every other BD movie, I would get a dropout.

I bought a HDMI extender and 2 high speed 24ga HDMI cables from Monoprice and watched 5 BD movies and not one dropout. Also, I feel the picture is a little sharper and has just slightly more contrast.

So if you have dropouts, I really recommend getting better cables and a HDMI extender if your HDMI is longer then 20ft. Also, Monoprice was very fast and they have great quality products.
post #1658 of 9529
Unicorn, do u think its wise to get an 818 now or wait for a price cut or next year's model perhaps? i can get the 818 for 775 shipped.
post #1659 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Unicorn, do u think its wise to get an 818 now or wait for a price cut or next year's model perhaps? i can get the 818 for 775 shipped.

That's about $50 under the last best price quoted before Onkyo seemed to remind all authorized dealers that it would like the 818 to sell for MSRP ($1199), at least for now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Amazon, Vann's etc. bring onecall's price to the attention of Onkyo and then you'll be asking if $1149 is a good deal.

Pull the trigger!
post #1660 of 9529
Yes but last year the Onkyo 809 was selling for around $650 when it was on sale so looking at it that way, the 775 that i can get it for doesn't seem like that great of a deal , do u think onkyo will come up with some major feature next year Model?

I dont want to buy the 818 now and have onkyo put out some major new feature, does the 818 have some major new feature over the 809?
post #1661 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Yes but last year the Onkyo 809 was selling for around $650 when it was on sale so looking at it that way, the 775 that i can get it for doesn't seem like that great of a deal , do u think onkyo will come up with some major feature next year Model?
I dont want to buy the 818 now and have onkyo put out some major new feature, does the 818 have some major new feature over the 809?

After Dec. 21st and the Mayan long count calendar runs out and the world ends...it won't matter what they have up their sleeves...better to enjoy what's out there now.
post #1662 of 9529
haha thats funny pat.. can u please answer my question tho?
post #1663 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

haha thats funny pat.. can u please answer my question tho?

I don't know what Onkyo would put into next years models but the 818 is somewhat future-proofed with 4K upscaling, the new DTS NEO:X and the latest and greatest Audyssey MultEQ XT32. I use my unit as primarily an A/V system with just a sat box, Blu-Ray and INTERNET radio so I can't speak to all the other peripheral add ons like PC's, smart phones or whole house integration and zones.

I would think that the 818 should satisfy most users for many years to come or until "Audyssey Super-Duper Ultimate Pro XT1001", comes out.
post #1664 of 9529
Thread Starter 
I would say that no AVR is future proof as the manufacturers will always find ways to get us to upgrade. Having said that the 818 is future proof as they will get this year.
post #1665 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Yes but last year the Onkyo 809 was selling for around $650 when it was on sale so looking at it that way, the 775 that i can get it for doesn't seem like that great of a deal , do u think onkyo will come up with some major feature next year Model?
I dont want to buy the 818 now and have onkyo put out some major new feature, does the 818 have some major new feature over the 809?

The XT32 is recognised as a significant improvement over XT (809), and only available in AVRs costing hundreds more than the 818 price you quote.

You would be mad to wait, this model is new, and is a great spec for a great price. Stop faffing, buy, and start enjoying. biggrin.gif
post #1666 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

The XT32 is recognised as a significant improvement over XT (809), and only available in AVRs costing hundreds more than the 818 price you quote.
You would be mad to wait, this model is new, and is a great spec for a great price. Stop faffing, buy, and start enjoying. biggrin.gif


1+
post #1667 of 9529
Had my first hiccupp with this receiver last night.
While listening to V-tuner via the net I pressed display on the remote(top most button on right side)unit powered off and back on and had to initialize again
Music came back on and I pressed it again to see if it would repeat.
Well it did but the unit was dead in the water this time.
Pressed power button on unit,nothing,tried the remote,nothing.
Unplugged unit and let it sit for about a minute,plugged back in and unit powered up and went right back to V-Tuner.
Went to cable tv and tried display button and it worked the way it was supposed to.
Unit has latest firmware upgrades.
I've used display button in conjunction with V-Tuner before and had no issues,it worked the way it was supposed to.
Both before and after firmware upgrades.
WTF???I don't want to try in net mode again for fear it will brick the unit.
post #1668 of 9529
I bet its a firmware issue, defintley sounds like software issue with vtuner and not a hardware issue.
post #1669 of 9529
Just got the 818 to replace my 805. Trying to use the composite "Monitor Out" jack to distribute what's playing on the main TV to the small kitchen TV through an already installed RF modulator. Not concerned about audio (I'll just turn it up! ) Previously I was using the composite video output frro my Dish DVR, so I know it works, but hoped to switch to this. However, I'm not getting any signal out of the cable jacked into the "Monitor Out V" jack on the back.

I've tried changing the "Input/Output Assign" to "Both" but that seems solely related to the HDMI. I've searched the manual, this forum, the internet, etc...but I would guess not many people are using a composite out from this receiver!

Suggestions? Thoughts?
post #1670 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Unicorn, do u think its wise to get an 818 now or wait for a price cut or next year's model perhaps? i can get the 818 for 775 shipped.

If you can get it from OneCall for under $1,000, get it.

I love my 818. Great video, audio and one of the most feature pack AVRs out there for the price.

P.S.
It is Unicron, not Unicorn.
post #1671 of 9529
This is a new issue for me with the 818. I was using the receiver for a bit more than a week when I had to tear my entire theater down for some work in the area. Boxed all up. Fast forward a week later. Unboxed everything and connected it all as it had been.

Now for the fun. All of my video sources display for a few seconds and stop displaying. Cable box, apple tv, ps3 and oppo blu-ray player. The cable box does pass audio but that's it. My pure audio sources bothcd changer and sonos work fine and sound great but they don't use HDMI. All HDMI cables are new as of 2 weeks ago when I got the 818. I used the cables for a week before i broke everything down and had no issues at all. I have checked the cables and all are seated correctly.

I'd appreciate any suggestions of items to check.

Cainman
post #1672 of 9529
So all HDMI sources dont show video? try unplugging the 818 and replugging after 30 seconds.
post #1673 of 9529
I just got mine today and the thing that impresses me most is I have it completely setup already - down to just the Onkyo remote, have my inputs named, etc, etc. I was really expecting it to be a PITA with all the features it has but it was almost plug & play which blows me away. I just want to get that out of the way to start smile.gif


My setup:

TV, DVD, ATV2, STB all on HDMI and one RCA connection to a switchbox running a self-amped Denon turntable and a vintage Onkyo tape deck. I bought the TP-Link wi-fi adapter which was easy to setup but, at least in my case, could only be configured plugged into the front USB. Once it was setup I was able to remove and swap it around back. I have a NAS with shared folders that I am so happy to see can be played directly & simply - iTunes cannot handle the amount of media I have in any reasonable way so this is a big relief.

I have Wharfedale Evo 30s for my mains (bi-amped) and the matching center speaker. My sub is a massive 50W 8" Denon c1998, feel my thunder! So 3.1.

Primary usage:

TV, streamed video from NAS via ATV2 typically with AirVideo doing on-the-fly conversion on another iDevice, MP3 playback via ATV2 and/or AirPlay & iDevice.


The AVR this replaces a 2007 Harmon Kardon AVR-630 which MSRP'd for the same as the NR-818 ($1,200), the 630 was the last gen before HDMI which is a lot of what drove me to buy a new AVR along with the various networking capabilities. The HK was a good receiver but I was never as impressed as I expected to be for the retail price, it had some minor issues with input syncing, and the common wonky front door. It's remote was never able to fully replace all of the others, the finish/decals wore quickly, and multiple buttons have failed over the years. While I thought it sounded decent I have felt like my speakers could use more power driving them, of course with nothing to compare it to I wasn't really sure if it was just hoping the speakers would have even more (and I think they sound pretty great just that there might be more in there).


So that brings us to today and having completed the XT32 setup (several times, thanks firmware update for nuking those settings!) I can start giving my initial impressions before settling down to using it daily for a few months and having a more considered opinion/review.


The good:

Very easy to setup AVR & remote; remote is very functional (replaces all other remotes in my pantheon), seems to have pretty good range and there is a free mediocre iOS app along with 2nd party ones with more features.

In my opinion, very powerful networking abilities - or at least useful! Can play direct shares off NAS or PC making music playback a snap. It is also fairly quick when doing tasks on the network, it feels faster than the ATV2 and doesn't appear to choke on huge file/folder lists. Plus it has tons of online services like Spotify and Pandora.

From the seat of my pants it feels like it has a good deal more oomph than the HK630 it replaces - I could nearly max out the HK before I'd give out but the Onkyo is more like 2/3rds on the same material. Regarding SQ that will take a lot longer to really nail but I'd say it feels a little brighter which I like as I would characterize my speakers and prior HK as both being warm and I do prefer a bit more of a bright sound.

The neutral:

Build quality on chassis & remote both look decent.

The remote could look a bit more upscale IMO or have a few more doodads, my HK's had an LCD display for example.

I watched a full DVD tonight, upscaling looks par to me which is fine my previous upscaler was pretty damn good. If you are coming from a poor quality one you should be very happy.

Tons of sound modes - does anyone use them? Just have the damn thing switch to the "best" mode and offer me an override of a couple extra. I know this is a features race but I've never used 90% of the modes on any amp, receiver, head-unit, mini-system, etc ever. Hall mode? Come on already.

The input PIP feature seems pointless and requires too many button presses - if there is a dedicated key on the remote I've missed it.

Powers up slower than the HK630 but I do realize it has much more of an OS to run/boot.

The poor:

IMO, some weird menu structures.

Manual provided as a pdf on CD-ROM. Not very informative either but I will give them some props for having funtioncal links and index.

Remote has a lot of buttons. While you can rename the inputs on the AVR the remote buttons cannot be renamed since they are printed.

Firmware update should show your current version # and the upgrade # it’s going to – I had to do it twice to actually get the current one. It should auto-reboot upon completion instead of sitting there locked at “Completed”. Would be nice if it didn’t nuke your XT32 settings while it was at it.


General:

So far I am really happy, watched the Olympics tonight and then a DVD afterwards. I really enjoyed the strong dialogue from the TV material, I sometimes struggle so it was something I noticed right away – I think I have it in THXII Movie right now. This is something I will play with a bit but I tend to find a mode and just stick with it for everything but native on DVDs and stereo for music. I’m sure tomorrow I’ll put in some hours with music and maybe I’ll plug in my Grados to see how the headphones sound (never liked any of the modes on the HK other than straight stereo). It’s really nice to have a single remote, my HK could never really cover everything, and I know it’s relative ease of use will make my wife happy when she gets home from vacation – plus the rat’s nest behind the stand is a heck of a lot smaller with HDMIs replacing RCAs everywhere.


A question I have:

The phono input is amped? I plugged my pre-amped turntable into it and it sounded like crazy static sort-of over the music. Swapping the plugs to the PC input corrected the sound.

Does it lose it's settings if it loses power? My HK would which sucked.

What are the preferred settings in the Audyssey menu for mode, EQ, loudness?
post #1674 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehawk_OS View Post

What are the preferred settings in the Audyssey menu for mode, EQ, loudness?

Audyssey > Movie
Dynamic EQ > On
Reference Level > 0dB
Dynamic Volume > Off

Depending on your room Audyssey > Music might be more accurate.
For TV and music sources you might want to select a Reference Level Offset, otherwise there could be too much bass compensation.
Edited by markus767 - 8/12/12 at 2:32am
post #1675 of 9529
Ah this thread might be the one I might get a solid answer from: smile.gif

Does this unit relay click on the source?
Older Onkyo's drove me crazy when starting up games or movies with PS3......click.....click...click

I want the new 818....but not if it crazy clicks like old times.... smile.gif
post #1676 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolidSwede View Post

Ah this thread might be the one I might get a solid answer from: smile.gif
Does this unit relay click on the source?
Older Onkyo's drove me crazy when starting up games or movies with PS3......click.....click...click
I want the new 818....but not if it crazy clicks like old times.... smile.gif

It normally click when changing surround modes. Like when you change sources, pause a movie, when going threw the menu, previews and movie which might be different audio formats. So it can click alot.

In the 818, you can set it up to use a surround mode for a particular audio format. Right now, I really like Audyssey DSX and I setup all surround formats for Audyssey DSX. So my receiver very rarely clicks.
post #1677 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by markus767 View Post

Audyssey > Movie
Dynamic EQ > On
Reference Level > 0dB
Dynamic Volume > Off
Depending on your room Audyssey > Music might be more accurate.
For TV and music sources you might want to select a Reference Level Offset, otherwise there could be too much bass compensation.

Is Dynamic EQ really needed if you don't listen at low volumes?

If I watch most of my movies at -6 to -0 reference level, is Dynamic EQ really going to do anything?
post #1678 of 9529
Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume are very different things. You will want to try the former and compare. Dynamic Volume is the one for those late nighters or for watching TV and not be pissed off when commercial starts wink.gif
post #1679 of 9529
i have dynamic volume turned off ,it sucks it cuts of the PUNCH from the action to make less noise.. dynamic EQ is a must tho.

im pretty sure im going to place an order for an 818 tommorow, so at $775 with the onkyo wireless lan adapter included in with free shipping and no tax u guys think i should pull the trigger?

whats the lowest u think the price will go down to around thanksgiving/labor day?
post #1680 of 9529
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNICRON-WMD View Post

It normally click when changing surround modes. Like when you change sources, pause a movie, when going threw the menu, previews and movie which might be different audio formats. So it can click alot.
In the 818, you can set it up to use a surround mode for a particular audio format. Right now, I really like Audyssey DSX and I setup all surround formats for Audyssey DSX. So my receiver very rarely clicks.

So does this mean you can force the amp to only give you sound when the right format comes up from the source?
Also the clicks, are they more silent these days or still so loud that you can easily hear them?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Receivers, Amps, and Processors › Onkyo TX-NR818 "official" owner's thread discussion