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post #2011 of 7013
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Originally Posted by dowop View Post

I don`t know about the 818 but on the 3009 there is a setting for screen centered dialogue. I puts more volume of the center into front heights if you have them. It really makes a noticable difference to me.

The 818 has it. SCD is a function of hieght channel tech. My old yammy has it with its presense speakers as well. My only gripe is with cheapo heights you are potentially mudding your front stage. When I has "lesser" speakers but closer in qulaity the heights the results were nice. Now my front stage totally trumps my heights , prefer to leave the dialogue in the cc where it belongs. I have also noticed it sounds unatural when sitting off axis. My 2 cents.
post #2012 of 7013
I have a choice of the level. I think it is 1-5. I have mine set at 2 & it sounds good to me. I did try it at 3 & over & it did sound unnatural.
post #2013 of 7013
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Originally Posted by dowop View Post

I don`t know about the 818 but on the 3009 there is a setting for screen centered dialogue. I puts more volume of the center into front heights if you have them. It really makes a noticable difference to me.

I think the 818 has that too. It shows up under the quick setup on the GUI. I don't see it appear anywhere else. Ah yes. Page 51 of the manual:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/2/1/7/1/8/Manual_TX-NR818_English.pdf
post #2014 of 7013
In the Home -> Setup, go to Audio Adjust, in there you can alter center width for Dolby and DTS sources.
post #2015 of 7013
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Originally Posted by theoneofgod View Post

In the Home -> Setup, go to Audio Adjust, in there you can alter center width for Dolby and DTS sources.

If I remember correctly, I believe that is for 2channel source only. I could be wrong though since I'm not I'm not home to double check.
post #2016 of 7013
Hey everybody, I have a question regarding the use of an Onkyo 608 as a separate amp with my 818,(which I love). I posted over in the receiver forum and then was sent this way(duh)I also kept referring to my 608 as an 805, not sure why but I digress. Afrogt clarified that I can use my older 608 as an amp to power my heights with the 818 doing everything else. My goal is 9.2 and my room supports the speaker layout. Question is how do I set up the 608 to use with the 818 in terms of settings. I understand how to connect them together with interconnects, just not sure since I've never used an external amp before. Btw what a difference going from 2EQ to XT32. Only had my 818 for 5 days and demoed all of my favorite movies and all I can say is this thing is awesome:D
post #2017 of 7013
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Originally Posted by M3ng03 View Post

If I remember correctly, I believe that is for 2channel source only. I could be wrong though since I'm not I'm not home to double check.
That wouldn't make sense, DTS isn't 2 channel.
post #2018 of 7013
Hi, I have a few quick questions about the 818. From the Panasonic VT50 plasma thread it appears a lot of folks buy this receiver to deal with the less than stellar upscaling/deinterlacing of the TV.


I have the TV as well as a projector in the same room. I'd only use the 7.1 audio setup with the projector and I'd like to just pass the audio through to the TV at all times.

Is this possible? From the manual it appears that I can have the receiver in standby mode and still pass HDMI with audio through to the TV.

Can you set each HDMI output preference like this independently? I'd like to always use the receiver for audio with the projector and put the receiver in standby and pass audio through to the TV when watching normal television.

Also, does the Onkyo continue to do video processing (upscaling/deinterlacing) while in standby mode when it is passing HDMI through to the TV?

... and finally, I currently have a Denon 4308CI - From any of you that had a 4308CI is the sound from the 818 on par (or close enough)?
Edited by ml2517 - 8/28/12 at 11:22pm
post #2019 of 7013
^^
Both HDMI Standby passthrough and upscaling will only occur on the Monitor Out - Main output; however, the AVR must be ON for the upscaling to occur so you would have to change the Audio Output to "TV" in order to pass the audio to the TV. Also the audio from the 818 should be in improvement as the 4308CI only uses XT while the 818 uses XT32.
post #2020 of 7013
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Originally Posted by boardinguy100 View Post

Hey everybody, I have a question regarding the use of an Onkyo 608 as a separate amp with my 818,(which I love). I posted over in the receiver forum and then was sent this way(duh)I also kept referring to my 608 as an 805, not sure why but I digress. Afrogt clarified that I can use my older 608 as an amp to power my heights with the 818 doing everything else. My goal is 9.2 and my room supports the speaker layout. Question is how do I set up the 608 to use with the 818 in terms of settings. I understand how to connect them together with interconnects, just not sure since I've never used an external amp before. Btw what a difference going from 2EQ to XT32. Only had my 818 for 5 days and demoed all of my favorite movies and all I can say is this thing is awesome:D

Just connect the cables from the 818 FHL/FHR pre-outs to any analog inputs on the 608 and connect the FHL/FHR speakers to the FL/FR speaker posts on the 608. Select that input source used on the 608 and adjust the 608 volume accordingly to get a decent trim reading after running Audyssey.
post #2021 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Both HDMI Standby passthrough and upscaling will only occur on the Monitor Out - Main output; however, the AVR must be ON for the upscaling to occur so you would have to change the Audio Output to "TV" in order to pass the audio to the TV. Also the audio from the 818 should be in improvement as the 4308CI only uses XT while the 818 uses XT32.

you fail to mention that if he turns on the Audio Output to "TV" that he's only going to get 2.0 sound instead of 7.1. I struggled with that on the previous page of the thread.
post #2022 of 7013
He didn't mention he uses both TV and PJ at the same time, although yes, that would be true if he does.
post #2023 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

He didn't mention he uses both TV and PJ at the same time, although yes, that would be true if he does.

When I turned the option on I am pretty sure I only got 2.0 sound in the main room (hdmi out) regardless of whether the tv connected to hdmi sub out was turned on or not.
post #2024 of 7013
You'll note that the OP indicated when using the TV, he only uses the TV speakers, so therefore it doesn't matter what's happening in the main zone if he's not also using the PJ.
post #2025 of 7013
My first impressions of 3009 vs 818 are not good (favor goes to the 818) as I have been unable to make it out of the set-up stage with a satisfactory sub integration results.

1st thought , those harping on the 818 not having sub EQ HT - I believe its not all its cracked up to be and may prove probematic with some set-ups.

I run dual subs in 2 configurations (still cant decide which I prefer)

1. 1/4 & 1/4 at front wall (s1)
2. 1/4 front wall and 1/2 back wall. (s2)


When I first got the 818 it nailed s2 with only a 3 position calibration. I later switched set-up two and results were satisfactory. I was not completly satisfied with either (are we ever?) and got caught up into maybe sub ht is the ticket.

On the 3009, so far I have ran the three different 8 position calibrations on s2 and the results are horrible. Huge nulls! Tonight I will run a Y corded calibration on s2 (off 1 sub channell) and I suspect it with calibrate properly - if it does then there are some short comings with sub eq HT. I have a feeling there may be phase issues , as I notice you cant set independent phase on the subs. I suspect the software is using the distance to compensate which can lead to certain FR issues. When I Y cord I manually select a reverse phase on the rear sub.

I will also try sub HT on s1 and report my findings.

Other than that, compared to the 818, the GUI on the 3009 is painfull (painfull to navigate and painfull to look at). But I prefer my video calibration results with the 3009 so far and not having to OB the heights is another plus as well.


Any thoughts?
post #2026 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jd17 View Post

@rworne:
Is an Android version of oRemote planned for the near future? I feel a bit left out. wink.gif
I can totally understand if you don't have the time for it.
It would just be amazing, since your app is so much better than the Onkyo app.
I hate to do a reminder but this really preys on my mind.

It's totally ok if you say NO ANDROID VERSION - at least I do not get my hopes up anymore. wink.gif

It would just be great to have some kind of statement from you... pretty please? smile.gif
post #2027 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jd17 View Post

I hate to do a reminder but this really preys on my mind.
It's totally ok if you say NO ANDROID VERSION - at least I do not get my hopes up anymore. wink.gif
It would just be great to have some kind of statement from you... pretty please? smile.gif

At this point, assume no.

100% of my spare time is in maintaining/updating the iOS version.
post #2028 of 7013
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post

1st thought , those harping on the 818 not having sub EQ HT - I believe its not all its cracked up to be and may prove probematic with some set-ups.
I run dual subs in 2 configurations (still cant decide which I prefer)

Sub EQ HT on the 3009 is all that it's cracked up to be.
I'am running four subwoofers in my room.
Two ported and two sealed.

I hooked up both SVS subs, via Y-connector, to Sub 1 and both BIC America subs, via Y-connector, to Sub 2.
Then, I individually leveled each sub to 75dB and then ran the full 8 position Audyssey calibration.
All four of my subwoofers were seamlessly integrated into my system.
They sound and "feel" great! smile.gif

Here's the exact layout of my room.
Edited by coolcat4843 - 8/29/12 at 9:43am
post #2029 of 7013
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

Sub EQ HT on the 3009 is all that it's cracked up to be.
I'am running four subwoofers in my room.
Two ported and two sealed.
I hooked up both SVS subs, via Y-connector, to Sub 1 and both BIC America subs, via Y-connector, to Sub 2.
Then, I individually leveled each sub to 75dB and then ran the full 8 position Audyssey calibration.
All four of my subwoofers were seamlessly integrated into my system.
They sound and "feel" great! smile.gif
Here's the exact layout of my room.

Im happy for you. Hence, I said problematic in some set-ups. If I get a better calibration using my y cord tonight, it proves there are issues with phasing that sub eq HT is mucking up in my set-up - this would prove that independent calibration is not that essential imo.

You should run all your subs off 1ch and report back with your findings ( if it doesnt put you out - just save your exsisting settings)
post #2030 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Just connect the cables from the 818 FHL/FHR pre-outs to any analog inputs on the 608 and connect the FHL/FHR speakers to the FL/FR speaker posts on the 608. Select that input source used on the 608 and adjust the 608 volume accordingly to get a decent trim reading after running Audyssey.
Thanks for the reply I appreciate it.
post #2031 of 7013
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Originally Posted by rworne View Post

At this point, assume no.
100% of my spare time is in maintaining/updating the iOS version.
Thank you for the answer. This is sad, but now at least I don't have to wait for it anymore. wink.gif
post #2032 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Both HDMI Standby passthrough and upscaling will only occur on the Monitor Out - Main output; however, the AVR must be ON for the upscaling to occur so you would have to change the Audio Output to "TV" in order to pass the audio to the TV. Also the audio from the 818 should be in improvement as the 4308CI only uses XT while the 818 uses XT32.

Ugh. So I guess I might as well just go with a Lumagen or DVDO duo or something. Hrm... Thanks for the reply!
post #2033 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

He didn't mention he uses both TV and PJ at the same time, although yes, that would be true if he does.

Yeah I typically only have one on at a time. Thanks for the replies folks.
post #2034 of 7013
This is the kind of crap that just bewilders me..

Originally Posted by TommmyJ

I gave an Onkyo TX-NR818 receiver a try this last weekend thinking that I could use the video processing for my 65VT50 tv. I didn't like the sound of it at all so didn't even get into video quality. My MRX-700 crushed it which could be expected for the price but now that I have found out how good the Anthem really is compared to others on the market it isn't going anywhere. I thought maybe it wouldn't be a significant difference in sound but I was sadly mistaken. It really seems like ARC does a better job compared to Audyssey. The build quality just wasn't there and the Onkyo got quite hot too. Just my opinion though as I am no expect that's for sure.
post #2035 of 7013
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Originally Posted by ml2517 View Post

I currently have a Denon 4308CI - From any of you that had a 4308CI is the sound from the 818 on par (or close enough)?

I owned the 4308 for a time..

The 818 is by far a superior product in every respect.
post #2036 of 7013
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jd17 View Post

Thank you for the answer. This is sad, but now at least I don't have to wait for it anymore. wink.gif

Have you gotten any update on when Onkyo plans to fix the 24P bug on the primary HDMI output from Onkyo Germany? The person who has been corresponding with me over PM about the same problem has given up hope, as the retailer who was trying to work with him to get it fixed just contacted him and offered him a deep discount on a different AVR in the store as there was no expectation of the problem being addressed any time soon.
post #2037 of 7013
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Originally Posted by LowTech1 View Post

This is the kind of crap that just bewilders me..
Originally Posted by TommmyJ
I gave an Onkyo TX-NR818 receiver a try this last weekend thinking that I could use the video processing for my 65VT50 tv. I didn't like the sound of it at all so didn't even get into video quality. My MRX-700 crushed it which could be expected for the price but now that I have found out how good the Anthem really is compared to others on the market it isn't going anywhere. I thought maybe it wouldn't be a significant difference in sound but I was sadly mistaken. It really seems like ARC does a better job compared to Audyssey. The build quality just wasn't there and the Onkyo got quite hot too. Just my opinion though as I am no expect that's for sure.

HAHAHA...wow.
post #2038 of 7013
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Have you gotten any update on when Onkyo plans to fix the 24P bug on the primary HDMI output from Onkyo Germany? The person who has been corresponding with me over PM about the same problem has given up hope, as the retailer who was trying to work with him to get it fixed just contacted him and offered him a deep discount on a different AVR in the store as there was no expectation of the problem being addressed any time soon.
What is going on here? Can you give me the meat and potatoes only on this? Is this display related only or source, or a problem with the AVR?
post #2039 of 7013
Guys i got the 818, awesome of course! i also got the onkyo wireless dongle, the uwf1, my question is, for the wireless setup it asks me to plug the wireless dongle on the FRONT usb port, now for that i have to have the cover open which is not neat looking to say the least, id rather have it closed, now i noticed there is a usb port on the BACK of the receiver as well.

can i just put in the back usb port so that i dont have to have the front cover of the reciever open? will it work or no? i mean i already have the wifi wireless setup and running, can i like turn the receiver off and move the wireless dongle from the front usb port to the back one?
post #2040 of 7013
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Guys i got the 818, awesome of course! i also got the onkyo wireless dongle, the uwf1, my question is, for the wireless setup it asks me to plug the wireless dongle on the FRONT usb port, now for that i have to have the cover open which is not neat looking to say the least, id rather have it closed, now i noticed there is a usb port on the BACK of the receiver as well.
can i just put in the back usb port so that i dont have to have the front cover of the reciever open? will it work or no? i mean i already have the wifi wireless setup and running, can i like turn the receiver off and move the wireless dongle from the front usb port to the back one?

I use the front USB for a USB flash drive (for MP3) and I use http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-WN722NC-150Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003158RHE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1346302482&sr=8-6 for wireless. It has always been in the rear USB, and no problems at all.
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