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post #2761 of 9466
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Originally Posted by investmentcar View Post

Does anyone have any input on my video processing question from yesterday?

Generally set tv box to output at native resolution (to take advantage of the scaler in the AVR as you desire), and calibrate TV to look the most accurate (reference) in your room's lighting conditions in colour, brightness and contrast. Noise reduction and sharpness to off. Your best bet is to try the specific TV thread for more advice on other settings. This is because if the TV is a long way from reference, then anything upstream may not be able to correct it.
post #2762 of 9466
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Originally Posted by IgorZep View Post

WMP12 is just a DLNA Server + DLNA Controller, it tells receiver what files to play from server and receiver is pulling the file then, the same as with internal controller. So, this cannot solve the gapless problem. Moreover, 1) it needs a computer and I bought a receiver with networking exactly to avoid a need in a computer and 2) last time I've tried WMP - it didn't work at all with getting some error from receiver, but was able to control volume on the receiver somehow... And the problem is not with WMP as it is able to send the same track to DLNA TV without a problem!


if you connect a computer with a hdmi cable to the 818 can it play mog and rhapsody without gaps
post #2763 of 9466
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Originally Posted by Kilian.ca View Post

Generally set tv box to output at native resolution (to take advantage of the scaler in the AVR as you desire), and calibrate TV to look the most accurate (reference) in your room's lighting conditions in colour, brightness and contrast. Noise reduction and sharpness to off. Your best bet is to try the specific TV thread for more advice on other settings. This is because if the TV is a long way from reference, then anything upstream may not be able to correct it.

Thanks for the info! I have the tv set as the owner's thread suggests. I will run back through the calibration disk I have to make sure.
Thanks,
John
post #2764 of 9466
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Originally Posted by IgorZep View Post

WMP12 is just a DLNA Server + DLNA Controller, it tells receiver what files to play from server and receiver is pulling the file then, the same as with internal controller. So, this cannot solve the gapless problem. Moreover, 1) it needs a computer and I bought a receiver with networking exactly to avoid a need in a computer and 2) last time I've tried WMP - it didn't work at all with getting some error from receiver, but was able to control volume on the receiver somehow... And the problem is not with WMP as it is able to send the same track to DLNA TV without a problem!

Yeah I hear ya, if you don't want the computer setup then it's still a problem, also you need a device to control the wmp12 player from the computer. I agree that the older WMP 11 and before were basically just opening up file shares, but I do think the wmp12 isn't quite the same and the player does stream the music to other device's around your home. It will even transcode files on the fly if players have trouble with certain formats, so the player would definitely be handling the files and then streaming the content to the receiver. I realize that doesn't help you if you don't have a win7 computer around and it's not optimal I just figured I would clarify a bit more.
post #2765 of 9466
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Originally Posted by tlb48 View Post

if you connect a computer with a hdmi cable to the 818 can it play mog and rhapsody without gaps

I haven't tried it but really don't see any reason why it don't. The player is the computer in this case, and receiver is just an amplifier with DAC in this case, same as if you output SPDIFF or analog audio from some external source.
post #2766 of 9466
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Originally Posted by Fishtank View Post

Yeah I hear ya, if you don't want the computer setup then it's still a problem, also you need a device to control the wmp12 player from the computer. I agree that the older WMP 11 and before were basically just opening up file shares, but I do think the wmp12 isn't quite the same and the player does stream the music to other device's around your home. It will even transcode files on the fly if players have trouble with certain formats, so the player would definitely be handling the files and then streaming the content to the receiver. I realize that doesn't help you if you don't have a win7 computer around and it's not optimal I just figured I would clarify a bit more.

It is quite clear - I have Win7 with WMP12 and it doesn't work at all for me with the receiver. And if it would work (as in the case with TV where it is working) it would produce gaps because what I explained - receiver will still pull the tracks one by one and WMP12 is just a DLNA controller in this case. Or if you know how to configure it so that it pushes content to DLNA renderer, not just controls it - let everyone know how to do it, as there is no any information about it possible anywhere I've looked.
post #2767 of 9466
When I had Windows 7 installed, I could send music to it perfectly fine with WMP12 using "Play To" and via network share.
post #2768 of 9466
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Originally Posted by IgorZep View Post

It is quite clear - I have Win7 with WMP12 and it doesn't work at all for me with the receiver. And if it would work (as in the case with TV where it is working) it would produce gaps because what I explained - receiver will still pull the tracks one by one and WMP12 is just a DLNA controller in this case. Or if you know how to configure it so that it pushes content to DLNA renderer, not just controls it - let everyone know how to do it, as there is no any information about it possible anywhere I've looked.

I have similar problems with my HT-RC370. Windows 7 can get the TV to play music (which actually comes out of the receiver because I set the TV to default to audio system mode) but have trouble getting the receiver to play the music.
post #2769 of 9466
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Originally Posted by IgorZep View Post

It is quite clear - I have Win7 with WMP12 and it doesn't work at all for me with the receiver. And if it would work (as in the case with TV where it is working) it would produce gaps because what I explained - receiver will still pull the tracks one by one and WMP12 is just a DLNA controller in this case. Or if you know how to configure it so that it pushes content to DLNA renderer, not just controls it - let everyone know how to do it, as there is no any information about it possible anywhere I've looked.

Well you are further along in your testing then me, and I'm just reading content and making assumptions based on past experience smile.gif Chances are very high you are correct.... but I like tinkering and if I'm not understanding something correctly I like to figure it out...so I'll give it a shot when I find some time to see if I can be of any help, you sound like you've covered your bases though so I might run into the same problems you have. I just got the rest of my gear though so this weekend will likely be tied up in mounting my new speakers and transducers.
post #2770 of 9466
guys had my first glitch with my 818.was switching source from my ps3 back to cable box and no signal ,turned off and on no signal again.
i pulled the plug and there it was the picture came back ,i hope that this is not gonna be a sign of bad things to come it is only 5 days old unit
anyone else experience this?makes me worried a bit cauz of the problem with the hdmi board on my last onkyo 807 .love the sound tho
any input would be awsome guys.
cheers
post #2771 of 9466
Ensure the "Deep Color Output" on the PS3 is set to OFF.
post #2772 of 9466
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Ensure the "Deep Color Output" on the PS3 is set to OFF.
thank you jdsmoothie, i just did that .hope that it dosen't happen again cauz i lovvvvvvve my 818 robust clean sound .
hey jdsmoothie how many forums are you in man ,i talked to you in the denon 3313 forum and in here how many avr do you awn man.
and which one is your fav ?smile.gif
post #2773 of 9466
I'm having some video lag issues with the 818. I have a Bell 9242 pvr and after a few hours of watching television through the onkyo my pvr controls seem to lag. When fast skipping through commercials for instance the pvr lags about 2 or more seconds behind what's on the display. If I turn the amp off and then on again it fixes the lag issue. But a few hours later it returns again. What in the world could be causing this lag?
post #2774 of 9466
hello folks.

I've recently invested in Onkyo 818 (upgrading from the 608) and now it's time to upgrade my speakers.
I've been considering Monitor Audio Silver RX6 + RX Center + RXFX + RXW-12 Sub, but I'm not sure how they pair with the 818.

Any thoughts about that? I tend to prefer "warm" sound and powerful (but not "muddy") bass.

Perhaps the RX8 is a better match than RX6?

I have a medium size living room and it's 50/50 music/movie.
I've also considered the new Dali Ikon 7 MK2 + Ikon Vokal MK2 + Ikon On-Wall MK2 + Ikon Sub MK2
and possibly the B&W CM8 + Center 2 + CS3 + ASW 10CM Sub (which is more expencive and probably above my budget).

Any of you have any experience/thoughts/comments? There isn't any dealers with decent listeningroom around here....
post #2775 of 9466
I have the Dali Zensors, and they are lovely. Not that it will help but all of them will sound unique. You really need to go into a store and hear them yourself.
Just to add, the Dali's have both dome and ribbon tweeter, and that combination is great.

If I had the cash, I'd get the Dali's.
Edited by theoneofgod - 10/26/12 at 1:37pm
post #2776 of 9466
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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

I have similar problems with my HT-RC370. Windows 7 can get the TV to play music (which actually comes out of the receiver because I set the TV to default to audio system mode) but have trouble getting the receiver to play the music.
would using an airport extreme connected from a computer solve this problem
post #2777 of 9466
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Originally Posted by tlb48 View Post

would using an airport extreme connected from a computer solve this problem

I am not a fan of Apple gear...but my ASUS RT-N66U doesn't solve the problem.
post #2778 of 9466
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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

I have similar problems with my HT-RC370. Windows 7 can get the TV to play music (which actually comes out of the receiver because I set the TV to default to audio system mode) but have trouble getting the receiver to play the music.
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Originally Posted by tlb48 View Post

would using an airport extreme connected from a computer solve this problem

I have an HT RC270, the model before your 370, so yours should work as well, unless you have to tweak some network settings. I can use the "Play To" feature in Win7 to send music to my receiver, however, the receiver needs to be ON and in the right mode("SERVER", which is the equivalent of "DLNA" mode in the newer receivers). Put your RC370 in DLNA/NET/SERVER mode(whichever is in your case), and try again.
I also have the 818. The 818 doesn't have to be in DLNA/NET mode, it just needs to be turned ON, and when you use the "Play To" command in Win7, it will switch to "DLNA" and play the audio.
post #2779 of 9466
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Originally Posted by somniantis View Post

The 818 doesn't have to be in DLNA/NET mode, it just needs to be turned ON, and when you use the "Play To" command in Win7, it will switch to "DLNA" and play the audio.

By the way, have you updated firmware? What firmware do you have?
post #2780 of 9466
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Originally Posted by somniantis View Post

I have an HT RC270, the model before your 370, so yours should work as well, unless you have to tweak some network settings. I can use the "Play To" feature in Win7 to send music to my receiver, however, the receiver needs to be ON and in the right mode("SERVER", which is the equivalent of "DLNA" mode in the newer receivers). Put your RC370 in DLNA/NET/SERVER mode(whichever is in your case), and try again.
I also have the 818. The 818 doesn't have to be in DLNA/NET mode, it just needs to be turned ON, and when you use the "Play To" command in Win7, it will switch to "DLNA" and play the audio.

I can't find this setting. I looked under network setup and there isn't a place to select server/DLNA. Could you please tell me where did you see this setting?
post #2781 of 9466
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Originally Posted by IgorZep View Post

By the way, have you updated firmware? What firmware do you have?

I am updated to latest firmware(at least from what the receiver reports), 1100-7101-0100-0000
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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

I can't find this setting. I looked under network setup and there isn't a place to select server/DLNA. Could you please tell me where did you see this setting?

Use the "NET" Button on your remote. If you push it a couple of times, it will cycle through "Internet Radio' mode-> NET/DLNA mode(in my case with the 270 is "SERVER" mode),. It is the same button you use to get to Pandora/vTuner,etc...
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post #2782 of 9466
I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I have an 818 and wondered if there is any way of saving my current settings with reference to audio, which could be restored after a "fiddling" session.
post #2783 of 9466
I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I have an 818 and wondered if there is any way of saving my current settings with reference to audio, which could be restored after a "fiddling" session.
post #2784 of 9466
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Originally Posted by Cardiacfatboy View Post

I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I have an 818 and wondered if there is any way of saving my current settings with reference to audio, which could be restored after a "fiddling" session.

This should work, I tried the steps on both my units, the 270 and the 818, and the process is available :
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To STORE:
Push and hold Setup on the AVR (not the remote)
Then push Enter
Unit displays 'Setup store?"
Still holding Setup, push Enter again
Unit displays "Setup storing'
Unit then displays 'Complete'
All your settings are now stored.

To RECALL:
Push and hold Setup on the AVR
Then push Return
Unit displays 'Setup recall?'
Still holding Setup, push Return again
Unit displays 'Setup recalling'
Unit then displays 'Complete'
Unit then powers off into standby mode.
Switch unit back on,

Edited by somniantis - 10/27/12 at 8:26am
post #2785 of 9466
For those of you that have the O-remote app, the latest update is a must. It is optimized for xx09 and later receivers. The developer has added direct access buttons to switch audyssey curves(movie/music) or defeat it. He also added the home button but with the direct access keys this is a redundant feature. For those who have yet to purchase the app, it's a must have. Way better than factory app. Great work Robert!
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oremote/id393837174?mt=8
post #2786 of 9466
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Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

For those of you that have the O-remote app, the latest update is a must. It is optimized for xx09 and later receivers. The developer has added direct access buttons to switch audyssey curves(movie/music) or defeat it. He also added the home button but with the direct access keys this is a redundant feature. For those who have yet to purchase the app, it's a must have. Way better than factory app. Great work Robert!
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oremote/id393837174?mt=8

Once I get the rest of my room setup I will probably purchase the app
post #2787 of 9466
I wish the O-Remote was available for android too frown.gif
post #2788 of 9466
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Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

For those of you that have the O-remote app, the latest update is a must. It is optimized for xx09 and later receivers. The developer has added direct access buttons to switch audyssey curves(movie/music) or defeat it. He also added the home button but with the direct access keys this is a redundant feature. For those who have yet to purchase the app, it's a must have. Way better than factory app. Great work Robert!
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oremote/id393837174?mt=8

Thanks, but I am catching some heat from 2011 Onkyo owners because there is some sort of difference in how they handle the protocol. That is, some do it "right" and others "not at all right". Firmware has nothing to do with it either. So for them it is a crapshoot.

I did try to go all out in customizing the app for each different model Onkyo. The 818 controls in the AV tab are quite specific now compared to the last version.

Since most of the feedback I am getting now is from confused/angry 609 owners, it relieves me to see your comments.

There's a 1.4.2 in the queue at Apple now with some fixes, and a .3 and .4 will be following with more bug fixes and optimizations.
post #2789 of 9466
Thank you so much.. Why do they keep this from us ?

Thanks again
post #2790 of 9466
Where is my bass? No really where is it? How many times have we heard this? Well you just need to find it. I recently got my AVR back from ABL, the 809 for a HDMI sub out failure. It is repaired. I spent some time to be sure it was repaired but then needed to hook up the 818 and put it through its paces because I had not torture tested it. So in goes the Godsmack DVD and we listen to that DTS. Lot of playing around because that was a direct track but the 818 easily passes the test where an older Yammie fell on its' face and shut down at reference levels and even toasted one of my speakers. Here is what I want to say, after playing around a bit, I have found that the Dolby Digital EX TV Logic setting is a very good option and really puts out the bass in my setup. Just what I saw. Give it a try for TV viewing because it works well for me. Of course for movie viewing from BDs go direct.
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