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post #2941 of 9532
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Does anyone know why Onkyo didn't go with a true dual sub out with their x32 implementation?
I can't imagine that it saved them that much $$$.

Not sure, but that was the reason I chose the 818 over the older 709, thinking that xt 32 meant true dual discrete subwoofer measurements. Was dissapounted to find out pretty much only the Denton 43xx does it.
post #2942 of 9532
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Does anyone know why Onkyo didn't go with a true dual sub out with their x32 implementation?
I can't imagine that it saved them that much $$$.

I don't understand that either but last year's 3009,5009 and this year's 1010,3010,5010 has sub eq ht. I figured they still want to sell some of their mid to high end receivers...
post #2943 of 9532
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Does anyone know why Onkyo didn't go with a true dual sub out with their x32 implementation?
I can't imagine that it saved them that much $$$.

There is no benefit in having a "true" dual subwoofer output. Flat frequency response, low seat-to-seat variations and short modal ringing is a property of the room and subwoofer locations. "True" dual subwoofer outputs don't help with any of that - at least not when using XT32.
post #2944 of 9532
I take it there's still no new news on the frame rate issues or the problems with networking for the 818?
post #2945 of 9532
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Originally Posted by boblinds View Post

Off-topic Sidebar Warning: smile.gif
I think we're a little confused about frame rates here. Standard film frame rate is 24fps. That's the rate at which feature films are shot at present. The 23.97fps drop-frame rate (because two frames are dropped every minute) was adopted to address problems related to the frequency of the video carrier. It has nothing to do with incompetence or director's wishes. Blu-ray supports both drop-frame (23.97) and non-drop-frame (24) rates.

I don't wish to get into this, I'll just say that there is good reason to encode to 23.97 rather than 24 (and the vast majority do).
post #2946 of 9532
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

I've been waiting 10 months to buy a new receiver, I thought this one was the one to consider, I'm a bit concerned with the issues that everyone has been having and not seeing any firmwares showing up fast enough.
Anyone want to convince me to still consider the 818?

I won't try to convince you of a thing but I like my 818 so much I wish I bought a spare. Unfortunately they are not available at the price I paid a few months ago, but they're more than a good value even at $1050 or so.

It's that good. Really. If the price falls around Thanksgiving I'd grab it.
post #2947 of 9532
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Originally Posted by boblinds View Post

Off-topic Sidebar Warning: smile.gif
I think we're a little confused about frame rates here. Standard film frame rate is 24fps. That's the rate at which feature films are shot at present. The 23.97fps drop-frame rate (because two frames are dropped every minute) was adopted to address problems related to the frequency of the video carrier. It has nothing to do with incompetence or director's wishes. Blu-ray supports both drop-frame (23.97) and non-drop-frame (24) rates.

Bob... You're actually a little confused. smile.gif

Drop frame time code was invented so that the displayed time code matches real time on a clock...

It doesn't drop any frames... It drops the 29 and 30 frames in the time code stream every minute except for minutes ending in 0...

It has nothing to do with the "video carrier."

There is no such thing as 23.97 drop frame time code.

There is 30 frame, 30 frame drop, 29.97 frame and 29.97 drop...

You are confusing pull down rates with drop frame... Two different things.

23.97 and 24 frame time code has the same number of frames per second... 24.

The difference between the two is the speed at which they run.

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Edited by FilmMixer - 11/16/12 at 6:14pm
post #2948 of 9532
^^^

i have learned my new thing for the day... smile.gif
post #2949 of 9532
Having problems with calibration, does not stop. Never gets to the point where you can save the setting. This is a new purchase any answers?? I have re set the unit and checked that is has the latest firmware.
post #2950 of 9532
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Originally Posted by 6sj7gt View Post

I won't try to convince you of a thing but I like my 818 so much I wish I bought a spare. Unfortunately they are not available at the price I paid a few months ago, but they're more than a good value even at $1050 or so.
It's that good. Really. If the price falls around Thanksgiving I'd grab it.

Thanks for your post, I really do want the 818, I know it's the receiver to buy, for all it's features, vs value, I've been waiting for a deal to come up before black Friday deals ( if they even happen early ) as I need a receiver before Turkey day, so I have some sound in my new family room, hopefully I find something today & get 3 day shipping to have it Wednesday, we will see, thx.
post #2951 of 9532
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Originally Posted by Kevin Thompson View Post

Having problems with calibration, does not stop. Never gets to the point where you can save the setting. This is a new purchase any answers?? I have re set the unit and checked that is has the latest firmware.

Are you running the full or quick setup? Does the menu tell you to place the mic at position 1, 2, 3, etc.? If not could you post a screenshot of the menu?
post #2952 of 9532
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

Thanks for your post, I really do want the 818, I know it's the receiver to buy, for all it's features, vs value, I've been waiting for a deal to come up before black Friday deals ( if they even happen early ) as I need a receiver before Turkey day, so I have some sound in my new family room, hopefully I find something today & get 3 day shipping to have it Wednesday, we will see, thx.

Check out the deals thread for this receiver. I was able to get exactly what you're looking for in terms of a good deal and shipping.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1418870/onkyo-tx-nr818-949-88/180#post_22592815
post #2953 of 9532
I have used the quick set up, after all the channels received the signal the screen shot is of the calibration mode "calibrating" the 10 squares every second in sequence endlessly but I stopped after an hour. At work right now. Thanks for the help, if it is not fixed I will return to Crutchfield and get another unit 818.
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Screenshot of calibration that just keeps going.
post #2955 of 9532
Thanks FilmMixer, I've been schooled. smile.gif

And Fahrenheit, I will now disappear in shame. biggrin.gif Sorry.
Edited by boblinds - 11/17/12 at 12:48pm
post #2956 of 9532
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Originally Posted by Kevin Thompson View Post

I have used the quick set up, after all the channels received the signal the screen shot is of the calibration mode "calibrating" the 10 squares every second in sequence endlessly but I stopped after an hour. At work right now. Thanks for the help, if it is not fixed I will return to Crutchfield and get another unit 818.

Hours? Calculation should be done within a minute. What happens when you run full setup?
post #2957 of 9532
Same, tried again after work full calibration 8 point. I am thinking the same thing little buggy...still sounds really good without the calibration. Original owner of my BP2000 Def. Tech.
post #2958 of 9532
Same, tried again after work full calibration 8 point. I am thinking the same thing little buggy...still sounds really good without the calibration. Original owner of my BP2000 Def. Tech.
post #2959 of 9532
Same, tried again after work full calibration 8 point. I am thinking the same thing little buggy...still sounds really good without the calibration. Original owner of my BP2000 Def. Tech.
post #2960 of 9532
Same, tried again after work full calibration 8 point. I am thinking the same thing little buggy...still sounds really good without the calibration. Original owner of my BP2000 Def. Tech.
post #2961 of 9532
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Originally Posted by Kevin Thompson View Post

Same, tried again after work full calibration 8 point.

Not normal. Have the unit repaired.
post #2962 of 9532
Hi all, I am trying to pick a receiver for my new setup.

Panasonic TC-P65VT50
Retina MacBook Pro (HDMI/Thunderbolt or Airplay)
Gaming PC (HDMI)
WD TV Live (HDMI)
Apple TV 2 (HDMI)
PS3 (HDMI)
Xbox 306 (HDMI)
Wii U (HDMI)

It's between this, Denon 3313 and Yamaha 1020. Anyone suggest anything else or have a recommendation on which I should go with out of the three?

Issues with my older Denon 2310CI:

-IR/LOS/Short range
-Unable to pass through HDMI for my PC (major sync issues/mouse delay)
-Unable to connect to our network (ethernet/bluetooth/wireless/airplay)
-Not enough HDMI in and out ports (5/1, 7+/2+ needed)
-Bland and Sluggish UI

Thanks!

Edit: Also, does the 818 handle 24p/96hz or how does that work with an AVR?

PS3 to AVR to VT50 (24p/96hz capable).
Edited by Pyrophoric - 11/17/12 at 11:03pm
post #2963 of 9532
I have a 7.1 system with my NR818 and was wondering what is the best surround setting for content that is recorded in 5.1 and i need upsampled to 7.1. I have my crossover set high since i have small speakers and dont want to use thx settings, I guess what im asking is, what is the neutral setting for upsampling 5.1 content to 7.1? Thanks again.
post #2964 of 9532
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Originally Posted by BassMaster5 View Post

I have a 7.1 system with my NR818 and was wondering what is the best surround setting for content that is recorded in 5.1 and i need upsampled to 7.1. I have my crossover set high since i have small speakers and dont want to use thx settings, I guess what im asking is, what is the neutral setting for upsampling 5.1 content to 7.1? Thanks again.

There is no neutral setting. Upmixing creates or extracts information from existing channels. So the best setting is what you like best. The most neutral setting is listening to the 5.1 mix without any additional processing because that's how the mix was intended to be played back.
post #2965 of 9532
Which receivers are affected by the 23.976fps bug? The whole 2012 lineup?
post #2966 of 9532
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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

Which receivers are affected by the 23.976fps bug? The whole 2012 lineup?

Affected is a weird term to use. I run my 818 through an Optoma HD33 projector and have yet to notice any of the issues described. I also had the same receiver hooked to a 55" LED LG, and didn't notice either. Is it a bug? Yes. But it doesn't seem to be noticeable in all environments. I didn't notice it before I knew about it, and after trying to see it after, I still can't.
post #2967 of 9532
Does anyone else get a pop noise when changing inputs or when the receiver changes decoders? i think the receiver doesnt have a soft clip circuit because my external amps and subwoofers pop anytime anything changes, its not loud but its volume depends on how loud i have the gain on my sub amps.
Edited by BassMaster5 - 11/20/12 at 5:07am
post #2968 of 9532
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Originally Posted by BassMaster5 View Post

Does anyone else get a pop noise when changing inputs or when the receiver changes decoders? i think the receiver doesnt have a soft clip circuit because my external amps and subwoofers pop anytime anything changes, its not loud but its volume depends on how loud i have the gain on my sub amps.
No pop here, never had a pop.
post #2969 of 9532
Getting my 818 delivered today. Is there any reason not to upgrade to latest firmware before setting up? Thanks
post #2970 of 9532
You need to update the firmware otherwise if you set it up with Audyssey and then update you will loose all settings and have to run Audyssey again.But check in the box, I got an 818 last week and it had an update kit included (new firmware on a usb stick) then when I tried to update it with the stick I found the update had already been done.This is a UK model which comes from Germany so I don't know if this is the same with U.S. models.
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