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post #3721 of 9463
Is there a USB port in the back that will keep it out of sight? I'd hate to have that thing hanging off the front all the time.
post #3722 of 9463
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Originally Posted by cytoSiN View Post

Is there a USB port in the back that will keep it out of sight? I'd hate to have that thing hanging off the front all the time.

Yes. The 818 has a rear USB port.
post #3723 of 9463
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Originally Posted by Stepalex View Post

And what colour is the TX-NR818 display? There are images (and youtube videos) of it either being green or blue (which is what I need)...

It's the greenish color captured in the official photos. Just looks bluish in photos.
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Originally Posted by Stepalex View Post

Or is it customisable?

Not that I am aware of.
post #3724 of 9463
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Originally Posted by lees23 View Post

Any way to keep up-scaling on while the receiver is in standby? I am having my tv calibrated and want it to be consistent when the receiver is on/off.
Thanks

No, but you can get this result by using HDMI CEC and toggling the audio output to the TV/AVR as desired.

I'm curious why you don't always want things to sound as good as they can though. Even the best TV speakers are terrible.
post #3725 of 9463
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

No, but you can get this result by using HDMI CEC and toggling the audio output to the TV/AVR as desired.
I'm curious why you don't always want things to sound as good as they can though. Even the best TV speakers are terrible.
Wife complains about it being loud when she is in bed. House is a 1.5 story so the master is on the main floor. frown.gif

HDMI CEC? Sorry, a beginner here.
post #3726 of 9463
Think what I ma have them do is a calibrate it with the receiver off, then turn it on and have the calibration checked. If it's off he can correct using the receiver settings, right? That way the TV is correct with the receiver on or off.
post #3727 of 9463
I just got an 818 the other day and am having a slight problem. If the unit is off, and I hit "receiver" in the mode section of the remote and then hit the power on button on the upper left corner of the remote the unit will not power on. As of now I am unable to power on the unit using the remote even if I'm sitting right next to it. Am I doing something stupid? I hope so because I really don't feel like returning this, it'd be my second receiver I've returned in the last couple of months (the other was a Denon that failed, wouldn't turn on at all just a red light for an unknown reason). At least the first one was from bestbuy and that was much easier than this receiver I bought from Newegg.
post #3728 of 9463
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Originally Posted by lees23 View Post

Wife complains about it being loud when she is in bed. House is a 1.5 story so the master is on the main floor. frown.gif

Try the night listening mode.
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Originally Posted by lees23 View Post

HDMI CEC? Sorry, a beginner here.

You'll need to enable HDMI Control (RIHD) on the 818 and whatever your TV calls HDMI CEC to make it work. Once enabled your display should provide an easy way to toggle b/w audio output from the TV or AVR.
post #3729 of 9463
I need the price to go back to 679!!!!
post #3730 of 9463
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Originally Posted by lees23 View Post

Thanks for confirming, bummer. I kind of assumed that was the way it was set up, my previous receiver was the 607 and it was the same way.
Which app are you using, there are several to choose from? I downloaded one of the free one's but haven't played with it much. I will more than likely buy the $4.99 O Remote unless someone tells me otherwise.

I'm using the 'Onkyo Remote' app for the Android. From Onkyo. Free. Nothing fantastic, but it does the job. Doesn't provide for Pandora up/down vote, but otherwise works OK for me.
post #3731 of 9463
The O Remote is so much better than the Onkyo app. For the price, it's a steal considering it would almost compare with the high end harmony remotes...
post #3732 of 9463
After checking around about the remote failures with these Onkyo receivers I would strongly caution anyone looking into purchasing these units. It appears the 708 and 808 models from previous year have the same issues and it's related to the main boards. Onkyo does not really acknowledge it and it gets bad enough that the unit will switch inputs on its own and do all kinds of crazy things. Now I have to go through the huge hassle of returning the unit again. If I was made aware of this issue with Onkyo before I purchased it, I would not have done so. Be advised....
post #3733 of 9463
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Originally Posted by HansenHouse View Post

After checking around about the remote failures with these Onkyo receivers I would strongly caution anyone looking into purchasing these units. It appears the 708 and 808 models from previous year have the same issues and it's related to the main boards. Onkyo does not really acknowledge it and it gets bad enough that the unit will switch inputs on its own and do all kinds of crazy things. Now I have to go through the huge hassle of returning the unit again. If I was made aware of this issue with Onkyo before I purchased it, I would not have done so. Be advised....

Very unusual for this model. Are you sure you did everything correctly. Onkyo did a recall on those units by serial # on those 08 units and the remote hdmi issues have Not been common on this years models. The only consistent issue with some has to do with the 1080/24p skipping. If you took the time to bead the thread you would know that. And if you read the 0008 and 808 thread you would have known prior. You might want to call Onkyo or your dealer for repair or exchange before trashing the unit. Mine is flawless love it no issues worth every Penney.
post #3734 of 9463
I did not take the time to read this entire thread, nor did I take the time to read the entire thread(s) pertaining to the older models...my bad but I really don't think a guy should have to do THAT much research. You just hope they'd correct the previous issues, which I hope they have done. There has been an overwhelming positive response to this product so I was really let down when I had this issue and found out it was fairly common with Onkyo products in the last couple years. With this being said I'm currently in the process of updating the firmware which Onkyo says addresses the problem and should correct it so I'm crossing my fingers. My wife threw the box away and Newegg says they don't accept returns without the UPC so I'm screwed if it doesn't work.

WRH3 and anyone else having remote issues, here is the alleged fix and how to do it:

To update firmware without wireless adapter: On your computer Go to onkyousa.com-->support-->firmware updates - and the update for the TX NR 818 is dated 7/24/2012. Shortcut to file here: http://download.onkyo.com/AVR000E/ONKAVR000E_MAMAMAMAM9MAMA_120.zihp

Format your flash drive to fat32 deselect quick format if you need to format, extract files to the removable drive.

Hold down the USB button and while holding USB press power button. Unit will go into USB update. Then insert jump drive and press enter. This takes about an hour.


I'm at 50% right now I'll post an update once it's complete.
post #3735 of 9463
A couple of weeks ago I picked up the 818 at the very attractive Amazon price. It was perhaps more AVR than I really needed and I was looking at $600 max, more or less as a top end. And I was looking closely at the $350 range (especially Denon), considering what incremental value I would get from the additional features of the 818 or some other ~$650 AVR.

I am using it with a Pana BDT-220 BD player, both for streaming and BD disks, a Roku XDS streamer and Comcast SD cable box. So far I am very pleased pleased, especially with Audyssey XT32, which would have been otherwise not available in my price range. My own opinion is that I don't think I will hear differences in amps but if there are differences between AVRs it will likely be in the EQ processing. As such XT32 is intriguing. I don't have a 24P TV so can't comment on that issue. I have NHT 2.3 towers FL/FR, with NHT VS-1.2A center and NHT SuperOne surrounds and an HSu VTF-1 sub. Due to WAF issues I can't really run this thing at 0DB reference levels but at -20DB or so I am very happy with the results.

Audyssey set my cross-overs at 40hz for the 2.3's, 100hz for the center and 40hz for the SuperOne surrounds. I was surprised at the SuperOne settings since they are rather small bookcase speakers and rated down to only 60hz. They are in built in bookcases in the corner of the room so maybe there is some bass boom reinforcing and perhaps exaggerating the low end? Obviously I can and should raise the cross over for all the reasons discussed here; just found the setting off.

I want to thank everyone that participated in this thread and helped me to come to this decision.
post #3736 of 9463
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Originally Posted by pghflyer View Post

New 818 owner here, connected via HDMI to a slim PS3 set to BITSTREAM. Ran the full Audyssey on my 7.2 set-up. Popped in the Avengers with 7.1 DTS-HD MA audio. Only DTS lights up on the display and when I hit the Receiver/ "Display" button, it just says the input is DTS 5.1....but when I change the PS3 to LPCM, the 818 does show 7.1 input.
Am I missing something here? (I know, it shouldn't matter but I kind of like having the indicator light up on my new expensive toy to reassure me).

Well, I finally messed around enough to solve this...it was a PS3 issue in that the "Auto" Sound Setting wasn't detecting properly and was sending very limited formats and nothing over 5.1.

By doing "Manual" Sound Settings in the PS3 and checking every option, I now get all the correct formats sent through.
post #3737 of 9463
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Originally Posted by HansenHouse View Post

I did not take the time to read this entire thread, nor did I take the time to read the entire thread(s) pertaining to the older models...my bad but I really don't think a guy should have to do THAT much research. You just hope they'd correct the previous issues, which I hope they have done. There has been an overwhelming positive response to this product so I was really let down when I had this issue and found out it was fairly common with Onkyo products in the last couple years. With this being said I'm currently in the process of updating the firmware which Onkyo says addresses the problem and should correct it so I'm crossing my fingers. My wife threw the box away and Newegg says they don't accept returns without the UPC so I'm screwed if it doesn't work.
WRH3 and anyone else having remote issues, here is the alleged fix and how to do it:
To update firmware without wireless adapter: On your computer Go to onkyousa.com-->support-->firmware updates - and the update for the TX NR 818 is dated 7/24/2012. Shortcut to file here: http://download.onkyo.com/AVR000E/ONKAVR000E_MAMAMAMAM9MAMA_120.zihp
Format your flash drive to fat32 deselect quick format if you need to format, extract files to the removable drive.
Hold down the USB button and while holding USB press power button. Unit will go into USB update. Then insert jump drive and press enter. This takes about an hour.
I'm at 50% right now I'll post an update once it's complete.

You do know you can do the updates over the net in fact with it hardwiredmto the net it will tellmyoumwhen an update is available. All in the instructions.
post #3738 of 9463
I do understand that you could run an Ethernet cable to it, yes. In my house my router is a great distance away and I have a jump drive and not a 100 ft Ethernet cable. I would guess many users would be in this same situation.
post #3739 of 9463
Update: for the first time my onkyo tx-nr 818 powered on with the remote after the firmware update! Thank god
post #3740 of 9463
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Originally Posted by HansenHouse View Post

Update: for the first time my onkyo tx-nr 818 powered on with the remote after the firmware update! Thank god
I had that issue once, after the update no more!
post #3741 of 9463
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Originally Posted by HansenHouse View Post

for the first time my onkyo tx-nr 818 powered on with the remote after the firmware update! Thank god

I haven't had the problem with powering on from the beginning even before the firmware update. But I have a very obscure problem with Audyssey calibration on 818. frown.gif
post #3742 of 9463
My 818 didn't come with the plugs in the banana plug connector holes. Looks new and not used to me besides for a couple prints. Are these missing on US models?
post #3743 of 9463
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Originally Posted by Donat76 View Post

My 818 didn't come with the plugs in the banana plug connector holes. Looks new and not used to me besides for a couple prints. Are these missing on US models?
I was sure the plugs are in the European versions because of some law.
post #3744 of 9463
Just hooked my 818 tonight. Having an issue trying to get the 12V trigger to trigger my amp through my Harmony One remote. I've got the remote to learn the command, just can't get to work when powering my system on or off. Anybody using a harmony remote have an idea on how to make this happen??????
post #3745 of 9463
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Originally Posted by NUBS313 View Post

Just hooked my 818 tonight. Having an issue trying to get the 12V trigger to trigger my amp through my Harmony One remote. I've got the remote to learn the command, just can't get to work when powering my system on or off. Anybody using a harmony remote have an idea on how to make this happen??????
Are you sure the harmony activity is using zone 2 or 3? You can't trigger with zone 1 on the 818...rolleyes.gif
post #3746 of 9463
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Originally Posted by krakhen View Post

Are you sure the harmony activity is using zone 2 or 3? You can't trigger with zone 1 on the 818...rolleyes.gif

Yup. I programmed it to trigger zone 2. Just can't work the command into my power off and power on sequence. When I power off the amp turns off but the 818 stays on now. When I power on the amp doesn't turn on. I know it's probably the ommands sequence on the remotes. Just wondering if anyone has come up with the right sequence???
post #3747 of 9463
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Originally Posted by NUBS313 View Post

Just hooked my 818 tonight. Having an issue trying to get the 12V trigger to trigger my amp through my Harmony One remote. I've got the remote to learn the command, just can't get to work when powering my system on or off. Anybody using a harmony remote have an idea on how to make this happen??????

 

 
Zone 2 trigger to activate a power amp
 
What I did was:
1. Teach the Harmony one the command to turn on and off Zone 2.
a. In the Harmony control program, go to the devices tab, select the receiver and click the "learn IR" button.
b. Go down to the list and in the "Learn New Command" box enter the name you want for Zone2ON and click the "learn" button.
c. Follow the program instructions and on the original receiver remote, press the Zone button once (it turns red) and then press the ON button. The Harmony should have now acknowledged the key press and learned the command.
d. Back in the learn page, enter the name for Zone2OFF and click "learn".
e. Without pressing anything else, press the STANDBY button on the original remote. Another command learned.
 
2. Now teach the Harmony remote that the receiver needs further commands to turn on and off:
a. Go back to the devices screen in the Harmony control program and click on the "Settings" button for the receiver.
b. Select "adjust power settings" from the list and click next.
c. Go to the "Which command will Power On your device?" and select "My device needs more than one command to turn it on and off."
d. Select Zone2ON as the second command needed.
e. Do the same for "Which command will Power Off your device?" now selecting Zone2OFF as second power off command.
 
3. Update your remote. Connect the trigger to your power amp, make necessary adjustments. And you're all set!
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On the Onkyo remote, you first have to hit the Zone2/3 button on the top of the remote to get into Zone2/3 mode - if the Zone button turns Red, then you're in Zone 2 mode. Hit the Zone button again and it turns Green, meaning you're in Zone 3. Keep in mind that the Zone button remembers what Zone it's been set to before (so pressing it once may turn it Green, for instance).
 
Now, once you set the particular zone using the above instructions, you can press ON, and if you're in Zone 2 (Red), Zone 2 will turn on. Same idea to turn Zone 2 Off- press STANDBY while Zone 2 is Red. That particular Zone's 12V trigger fires too.
 
I memorized these IR commands with my Harmony 1100. The key to all this is that the Zone button does not send an IR command, it only sets the following button presses to operate in that Zone. So to memorize (for instance) "Zone2On" IR command in the Harmony, you must first press the Zone button until it lights Red, then press ON. The Harmony will memorize that ON as being for Zone 2. Do the same thing for "Zone2Off" and Zone3 if you want.
 
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post #3748 of 9463
Thanks HansenHouse. I did not do the software update since my receiver is currently at the latest firmware release, but did find that if I set Network Standby to Yes I have no issues with the remote turn on- Please report back if the problem comes back for you post update.
post #3749 of 9463
I guess I missed the boat on the $697 pricing...

I sure hope that comes back someday...

- Rich
post #3750 of 9463
Hi there, my 818 refuses point blank to see music files on my mac, any ideas why it sees the mac and even lists it in home media but shows No items ? Many thanks

Simon
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