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post #3781 of 6977
12/31/12 at 12:13pm
DiD you ever resolve the DVD-A playing through the optical connections? The manual indicates DVD A can be played through The HDMI ports but my DVDA player only has optical and rc outputs. Does the 818 have the 192kbps bandwidth on the analog audio inputs? My old Kenwood vr-4080 could process hi res audio through 6 ch inputs.
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post #3782 of 6977
12/31/12 at 1:04pm
Hey everyone,
All the best in the year to come in a few hours,

With all the due respect for Onkyo's people, the thing about the HT receivers from the 06s until the 09s, (it seems that 18s doesn't have HDMI related problems yet), is that the call center and the costumer support doesn't work like it needed. They don't gave us enough info, or worse, they don't answer questions about the HDMI issues.
They deliver a tone off interesting features which is totally obscured by the HDMI problems. Shame on them and let's spend our money on reliable brands.

Just bought a Yamaha RX A 2020 to replace a problematic 3 yo Onkyo 706 and I'm very anxious to install it and listen to the Yamaha.

Sincerely
JB

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post #3783 of 6977
12/31/12 at 5:06pm
Is there some sort of quick-setting I am missing? I want a quick way to switch between 5.1 surround sound for watching movies and 7.1 all channel stereo for just watching tv or having speakers on the patio (with the SAME source and in sync).
I just experimented with the "use external amplifier for FH/FW/SB" setting and I found that I can add another amp to power more speakers and it is actually in sync! This is exciting since I can kind of use it like a zone controller. However, I would like to know if there is a simple push button method to switch between 5.1 without a preouts and 7.1 or 9.1 with preouts. Kind of like the personalized keys on car where the settings are stored to adjust the seat. I don't think there is, but I am hopeful... Does anyone have any suggestions?
TIA!
John
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post #3784 of 6977
1/1/13 at 5:30am
Hi All,

I received a TX-NR818 for Christmas and hooked it up in our theater room in a 7.2 configuration with a ceiling mounted projector. This thing sounds great.

We had some kids over for New Year's Eve, and I plugged a Wii into the front panel composite video jacks. I then hit the Aux button. Result: sound, but no video.

I thought this thing was supposed to up-convert the composite to HDMI?

In the previous installation, I had a separate cable running to the projector just for the Wii. I removed it when I installed the TX-NR818 frown.gif.

Any idea what I need to do to get this to up-convert?

Thanks.
Brady
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post #3785 of 6977
1/1/13 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by bbibb View Post

Hi All,
I received a TX-NR818 for Christmas and hooked it up in our theater room in a 7.2 configuration with a ceiling mounted projector. This thing sounds great.
We had some kids over for New Year's Eve, and I plugged a Wii into the front panel composite video jacks. I then hit the Aux button. Result: sound, but no video.
I thought this thing was supposed to up-convert the composite to HDMI?
In the previous installation, I had a separate cable running to the projector just for the Wii. I removed it when I installed the TX-NR818 frown.gif.
Any idea what I need to do to get this to up-convert?
Thanks.
Brady
The 818 only upscales HDMI source, and no way for me to test it.
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post #3786 of 6977
1/1/13 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by bbibb View Post

Hi All,
I received a TX-NR818 for Christmas and hooked it up in our theater room in a 7.2 configuration with a ceiling mounted projector. This thing sounds great.
We had some kids over for New Year's Eve, and I plugged a Wii into the front panel composite video jacks. I then hit the Aux button. Result: sound, but no video.
I thought this thing was supposed to up-convert the composite to HDMI?
In the previous installation, I had a separate cable running to the projector just for the Wii. I removed it when I installed the TX-NR818 frown.gif.
Any idea what I need to do to get this to up-convert?
Thanks.
Brady

As noted on p. 103 in the owner's manual .. it should just upconvert from analog --> HDMI as well as upscale the 480i to 1080p (unless you also are using the AUX(HDMI) input in which case that HDMI input would take priority). Try powering OFF and unplugging the 818 for a few minutes, then power back on again. You may also want to consider purchasing a Wii2HDMI if it makes the connection easier and more permanent.

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-1080P-Output-Upscaling-Converter/dp/B007PY3ZPG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357050590&sr=8-2&keywords=wii2hdmi
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post #3787 of 6977
1/1/13 at 7:38am
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Update: for the first time my onkyo tx-nr 818 powered on with the remote after the firmware update! Thank god
I had the same problem thank God after the firmware update I no longer have the issue as you have found out but I was really going to be upset if I had to return this thing! Aud has transformed my speakers into the exact beast that they are (klipsch rb 75s with a dayton sub). ive had my hk 7200 (my whole setup for that matter) for 10yrs and now with the 818 it feels like I've been under powering my speakers the whole time, I cannot believe the sound & the picture quality that I am getting out of my whole system! I am a pleased Onkyo 818 owner! Cheers to this forum for helping me make the jump.
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post #3788 of 6977
1/1/13 at 8:17am
Hi All,

Apologies if this has been addressed before (this is a very long thread!) but I was wondering if anyone has connected an additional amp to the 818 to run both Wides And Heights simultaneously with Audyssey DSX & DTX Neo:X? If so what impact did this make to the sound stage & was it worth it? Also, which sounded better - DSX or DTS Neo:X?

Can one simply connect any 2 channel integrated amplifier or must it be a power amp only?

Many Thanks!

Bazzy!
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post #3789 of 6977
1/1/13 at 8:26am
Hi, I run a emotiva mini-x for my height speakers and use the onkyo for wides and everything else for 9.2 setup. I tried every configuration my room would allow including rear surrounds and height together but ultimately settled on heights and wides. I really enjoy DTS Neo X over DSX and I really think adding both heights and wides makes a difference biggrin.gif
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post #3790 of 6977
1/1/13 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

As noted on p. 103 in the owner's manual .. it should just upconvert from analog --> HDMI as well as upscale the 480i to 1080p (unless you also are using the AUX(HDMI) input in which case that HDMI input would take priority). Try powering OFF and unplugging the 818 for a few minutes, then power back on again. You may also want to consider purchasing a Wii2HDMI if it makes the connection easier and more permanent.
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-1080P-Output-Upscaling-Converter/dp/B007PY3ZPG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357050590&sr=8-2&keywords=wii2hdmi

Thanks guys,

I think I found the problem. The Wii was set to output 480p. After setting to 480i, things seem to work OK.
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post #3791 of 6977
1/1/13 at 10:18am
I solved my problem. Resetting the TX-NR818 did not change the behavior, however I was able to get Audyssey to stop seeing non existent front-high and front-wide speakers by performing the following:

I am using the RCA line level outputs and an external amplifier for all channels. I moved the rear surround connections to the second set of SB/SH/FW line outputs (the ones to the far right) and in SPEAKER SETUP > SPEAKER SETTINGS > PREOUT TO EXTERNAL AMPLIFIER I set it to SURR BACK. Then when I run Audyssey, only the rear surrounds are pinged along with the three front and side surrounds. No phantom front-high or front-wides were pinged. Problem solved.

Thank you everyone for your help.
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post #3792 of 6977
1/1/13 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by ucfmat13 View Post

So, just wanted to say thanks to the help you guys provided earlier.
My original 818 had problems with running audyssey and consistently getting "Ambient Noise Too High" error...despite a silent room. So I pulled the unit out of my rack and tried it in a bedroom with a different set of speakers.
Still would not get past the front left speaker.
I ended up ordering a second 818 when the price dropped to $679 a week ago. It arrived but had a huge gash in the side and mashed corner. The chassis on the 818 had a large dent on it (thanks a lot UPS). So now I have a third one on the way as of today.
I did try the new 818 out though and it proceeded through multiple speakers in the bedroom with much more noise going on than when I had tried previously with the original receiver.
Decided since I had the opportunity I took the new microphone and tried it on the original receiver but it still failed for noise errors. So there is definitely something wrong with that receiver.
I also, checked to see if the new receiver had the same him/buzzing from the unit itself and it did. However you can barely notice it and have to really be checking for it to notice. Definitely not the two fans as I checked them visually this time since I had access.
Anyways, just thought I'd update you guys and say thanks. Here's to hoping the third time (receiver) is a charm.

I feel for you and hope the next receiver works for you, I also had a problem running Aud, Good Luck. Joe
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post #3793 of 6977
1/1/13 at 10:32am
This morning my pass thru sound is not working (pass thru video is working). My DirecTV is set to pass thru, and has been working great for months. If I turn on the receiver, the sound is fine thru the receiver. If I switch the TV to over the air antenna, I get sound on the TV speakers just fine. No - nothing is muted. Nothing changed, or was moved - it just quit suddenly for no reason I can think of.

I will be trying:
1. replacing the HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV.
2. Trying a HDMI cable from the DirecTV directly to the TV (bypassing the receiver)
3. Checking the pass thru settings

Does this sound right? Can anyone think of anything else to check?
Edited by stevess - 1/1/13 at 12:35pm
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post #3794 of 6977
1/1/13 at 11:05am
Couldn't find the answer to this in the manual. I had HDMI pass through set up on my receiver to default to Cab/Sat and it was working fine.

Yesterday I set up the Onkyo to control my PS3 slim with the Onkyo remote control by enabling RIHD in the HDMI setup on my receiver. Now, the HDMI pass through (which I had set to Cbl/Sat so my kids could watch TV without messing with the receiver) only works if I turn the receiver on, put the receiver on the Cbl/Sat input, and then turn the receiver off. The "hybrid standby" button stays lit and I can watch TV without the receiver on.

However, if I try to watch TV after not having the receiver on for several hours, the HDMI pass through won't work and I can't get a TV signal without turning the receiver on.

I have my Motorola Cable box connected via HDMI to the receiver and then a single HDMI from the receiver to the TV (a Pioneer plasma).

Does enabling RIHD render the pass through on standby inoperable?
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post #3795 of 6977
1/1/13 at 11:40am
Can the remote that comes with the 818 be used when the remote is in a closed cabinet and the receiver is not visible?

The cabinet I will put my 818 in has doors that hide the receiver.

Thanks and Happy New Year
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post #3796 of 6977
1/1/13 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by boardinguy100 View Post

Hi, I run a emotiva mini-x for my height speakers and use the onkyo for wides and everything else for 9.2 setup. I tried every configuration my room would allow including rear surrounds and height together but ultimately settled on heights and wides. I really enjoy DTS Neo X over DSX and I really think adding both heights and wides makes a difference biggrin.gif

Are there many movies out there that are 9.2 yet? most of the blurays I have or have rented are only 5.1. I have a 7.2 setup but have yet to hear anything impressive out of the 7.2 config. I would like to futureproof my setup as much as I can. I dont have the room drywalled yet and if running extra wires for 9.2 setup is a good idea maybe i should run them? Ive got an 818 also.

Sling
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post #3797 of 6977
1/1/13 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by cmanser View Post

Can the remote that comes with the 818 be used when the remote is in a closed cabinet and the receiver is not visible?
The cabinet I will put my 818 in has doors that hide the receiver.
Thanks and Happy New Year
Most receivers, including the 818, have IR remotes. IR doesn't penetrate very well. That is why you have to point your remote at the device...You can use an IR Repeater to get around this though. Or you can get a aftermarket remote that supports RF like the Harmony 900.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=ir+repeater

I am going to bump my own post from yesterday:
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Originally Posted by investmentcar View Post

Is there some sort of quick-setting I am missing? I want a quick way to switch between 5.1 surround sound for watching movies and 7.1 all channel stereo for just watching tv or having speakers on the patio (with the SAME source and in sync).
I just experimented with the "use external amplifier for FH/FW/SB" setting and I found that I can add another amp to power more speakers and it is actually in sync! This is exciting since I can kind of use it like a zone controller. However, I would like to know if there is a simple push button method to switch between 5.1 without a preouts and 7.1 or 9.1 with preouts. Kind of like the personalized keys on car where the settings are stored to adjust the seat. I don't think there is, but I am hopeful... Does anyone have any suggestions?
TIA!
John
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post #3798 of 6977
1/1/13 at 2:38pm
I just received the 818 and have been working on setting up all the wiring through the walls, the basement, etc. I have a pair of Polk Monitor 70s for the front sides, and plan to use the bi amps as stated in the manual. I also have a Klipsch RW 12d Subwoofer which has RCA input jacks on the back for a line in, left/right, and a "High Level" in with bi amps for left and right. Is there a way to connect the High Level in bi amps to the 818? If not, do I need to connect the Line in R/L RCA jacks to the purple subwoofer connections on the back of the 818? Is the bi amp connections only available for the front left/right speakers, or through the subwoofer? Thanks for any help.
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post #3799 of 6977
1/1/13 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by zoner89131 View Post

I just received the 818 and have been working on setting up all the wiring through the walls, the basement, etc. I have a pair of Polk Monitor 70s for the front sides, and plan to use the bi amps as stated in the manual. I also have a Klipsch RW 12d Subwoofer which has RCA input jacks on the back for a line in, left/right, and a "High Level" in with bi amps for left and right. Is there a way to connect the High Level in bi amps to the 818? If not, do I need to connect the Line in R/L RCA jacks to the purple subwoofer connections on the back of the 818? Is the bi amp connections only available for the front left/right speakers, or through the subwoofer? Thanks for any help.
The line level inputs on your sub will likely receive filtered data from the bi-amp signals which may not contain the low frequencies it needs. You just want to connect with the rca jacks to get the proper lfe signal.
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post #3800 of 6977
1/1/13 at 4:04pm
Getting my NR818 tomorrow... Is there a recommended "Must Do First" list?
I'm no Home Theater noobie but this thread is 127 pages long so looking for suggestions from experienced 818 owners.

My setup will be...

NR818
Parasound 5 channel amp (been using on my SR805)
Paradigm Speakers 5 channel surround: floor standing fronts, large center
Paradigm 10" sub
Velodyne 15" sub
Room dims: 10' ceiling, 16' x 16' - full open back to kitchen which is also 16'x16'
65" Mits DLP


thx for the input!
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post #3801 of 6977
1/1/13 at 4:21pm
Connect your 818 to the internet to download and install the firmware update.
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post #3802 of 6977
1/1/13 at 4:29pm
Hi All,
I've been thinking of getting an onkyo av unit for the past few months now, I came across the 414-616 problem thread and boy oh boy, i've had the hell scared out of me regarding onkyo, I've read a few pages of this thread and it seems to me that the 818 doesn't suffer the same kind of problems as the cheaper models.
I want a unit that just works, one where I dont have to become a onkyo engineer to get working every day. I read it has superb audio and picture qualites, I'm not bothered about network/online streaming,
How are the hdmi ports on these units in terms of failing, are the majority of these units working as opposed to the 414s-515s-616s where it seems like a bucket load of them are giving trouble ...
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post #3803 of 6977
1/1/13 at 4:58pm
I just replaced a Yamaha rx-2000 with the 818. So far so good but having a couple of issues...

associated gear: Panasonic plasma TC 65vt50, Def. Tech STs fronts, Def. Tech 8060 center, Gem XL surrounds. HSU VTF-15 sub....vaulted ceilings open living room with kitchen...

I am not sure if its a problem or maybe I have no idea how to properly calibrate sub SPLs but....XT32 is setting my subwoofer EXTREMELY HOT. I worry it could blow at any moment lol. I set to 75dbs on subwoofer prior to XT32 cal. which is only at the 9oclock position. After cal. XT32 only sets sub lvl to +1. I wonder if my def tech fronts are affecting cal? I had to up crossover on fronts/center from 40hz to 80hz. surrounds are set to 120hz. Curve is set to Movies, audyssey EQ and VOL are both OFF b/c I hate how bloated the sub on aud. EQ sounds. Am I overreacting? Does everything sound legit to u guys?

2nd issue is HDMI control...Viera link on the Panasonic plasma is turned ON. All settings on Onkyo are also turned on. HDMI control ON. ARC ON. I should be able to flip TV off and that should also flip receiver off as well. Or I should be able to stick a bluray in and input switch auto. But the Onkyo is doing NONE of these things. Playing Netflix using Panasonic Tv apps, I get no ARC when switching to TV/CD input per manual...nada. What exactly am I doing wrong???
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post #3804 of 6977
1/1/13 at 6:25pm
Mines running just fine. I do notice the 24p issue from time to time but its hard to notice. You could always use the sub output if that bothers you.
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post #3805 of 6977
1/1/13 at 6:26pm
My 818 has been working superbly for 3 months now, no issues at all.
It just works... And the XT32 has done a wonderfull job in my livingroom:)
One thing I like is the ability to listen music and watch TV at the same time.
Now I can listen music while I'm waiting for the soccer game to start or during the comercials.
I'm very happy that I paid the extra money for the 818 instead for the 616.
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post #3806 of 6977
1/1/13 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by AVRams View Post

My 818 has been working superbly for 3 months now, no issues at all.
It just works... And the XT32 has done a wonderfull job in my livingroom:)
One thing I like is the ability to listen music and watch TV at the same time.
Now I can listen music while I'm waiting for the soccer game to start or during the comercials.
I'm very happy that I paid the extra money for the 818 instead for the 616.

Big thanks for this. I really wish more happy customers would leave their impressions as well.
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post #3807 of 6977
1/1/13 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by davelillis View Post

Hi All,
I've been thinking of getting an onkyo av unit for the past few months now, I came across the 414-616 problem thread and boy oh boy, i've had the hell scared out of me regarding onkyo, I've read a few pages of this thread and it seems to me that the 818 doesn't suffer the same kind of problems as the cheaper models.
I want a unit that just works, one where I dont have to become a onkyo engineer to get working every day. I read it has superb audio and picture qualites, I'm not bothered about network/online streaming,
How are the hdmi ports on these units in terms of failing, are the majority of these units working as opposed to the 414s-515s-616s where it seems like a bucket load of them are giving trouble ...
I haven't heard of any HDMI failures with the 818.
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post #3808 of 6977
1/1/13 at 9:19pm
Hi, can anybody recommend a place to get a great price on Onkyo equipment? Also, is AVS an Onkyo dealer? Any PMs appreciated, thanks.
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post #3809 of 6977
1/1/13 at 9:26pm
Sling,
Apparently Expendables 2 is optimized for 11.1 DTS Neo X but I haven't tried it yet to confirm. Most movies are either 7.1 or 5.1. I noticed that in my room rear surrounds were always to distracting so I added wides instead to try and see what I thought. I've always had heights so the addition of wides seem to make the front soundstage bigger and fuller IMO. I must admit that I probably don't have the angles correct for front wide( I'm maybe @ 45deg) for DTS placement however it still sounds better to me than Dolb 5.1. My advice is try it if you can before you wire everything permanently as long as your room will allow for it. I love my 818 and XT 32 has made such a difference in sound quality I find I'm buying blurays again biggrin.gif
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post #3810 of 6977
1/1/13 at 10:49pm
To get back to the 24fps bug, I just noticed that the 818 is also altering the 60 fps too. I was switching back and forth from the 818 VP and my Dvdo Edge comparing the PQ of both and thought the 818 looked a little different. Now thru the Dvdo edge Blurays are displayed at 23.976 fps and 60 fps material is actually displayed at 59.94hz. I then ran everything into the 818 and then out into the Dvdo Edge and compared the numbers, sure enough the 818 sends out 24fps and 60fps. I then used the sub monitor out of the 818 into the Dvdo edge and the signal is now in its original state 23.976fps and 59.94fps.
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