Onkyo TX-NR818 "official" owner's thread discussion - Page 130

I am not asking you to,prove anything. Both my displays are 24p capable and are set for that. I run from the 818 main to a darbee to a splitter and out to the pj and panny,plasma and see no jumps,judder, etc . I do not doubt that you have or see this issue but others do not and it is apiary that some are bypassing this unit especially at somemofbthe great pricing being offered. If i saw this issue I would be at the front of the complaint line .

Thanks. I've read a lot about 3:2 pulldown and judder today, and it seems to me that, having bought a gorgeous new plasma and a brand new receiver (818 last week during B and H's $679 sale), that I ought to be using the best possible features, and not settling for something I could have without nice, new equipment. I might test it again this weekend if I can find time between working, but unless I can test it and see it and it still doesn't bother me, the 818 is going back on Sunday, which is really too bad because the feature set is awesome.

Is this 24p issue common on receivers these days (I haven't been in the market for years since I bought by Pioneer VSX-92THX, which is still going strong but lacks some of the newer features that I want, including 3D passthrough), or is really only an issue on the 818 (and other Onkyos from what people were posting earlier about several models using the same chip)?

I just plugged in my new NR818 today... everything seems to work fine except I cannot get Ethernet working... I have tried both DHCP and setting a static IP. I have 4 other devices connected to the same Dlink gig switch I've been using for 3 years, tried 2 different CAT5 cables, and even opened a brand new Trendnet gig switch... the switches show the Onkyo is connected (connection light is on) but I don't show any activity, the firewall/router does not show any DHCP address provided to it, and I cannot connect to the IP address it shows in Settings...

Any ideas?

I have the same problem. Though I did not update the firm ware. My iPod (3rd gen) would skip once or twice when playing a song on the 818.

The first thing I did was the firmware update (via USB) - before hooking anything up at all.

I'm going to try factory reset tomorrow. Then calling Onkyo unless anyone else has any first-hand experience with this same problem?

I thought setting the Picture mode to Direct also bypasses the VP, as when I do this all of the video settings get hidden?

If you don't see motion judder running a 24p movie @ 60FPS (3:2) the 23.976 @ 24.000 won't bother you much either.

Not really. That's what makes it so frustrating .

Makes sense though...nothing else is priced to account for a MAJOR flaw. Sigh. Not looking forward to braving BandH on consecutive Sundays, but it's better than being stuck with a lemon.

I usually don't post here much but thought I'd put my 2 cents in. System is currently 52xbr909 Sony with DefTech Mythos ST, 8080 center, matching surrounds and a triad in room sub. Anyway I used the Onkyo NR3007 for a couple years and now went with the 818. First thing I've noticed is that it doesn't sound nearly as good. It just doesn't seem as dynamic though perhaps it's a tad warmer...I dunno. Not a huge room correction fan with the exception of anthems ARC system but I decided to run it again this time and again I'm just not happy with the results. What did we all do before corrections when evaluating receivers I wonder? Manual level matching and what not is what I primarily rely on to this day and I usually enjoy the uncorrected response of everything I've ever listened to (which is quite a lot of gear over 20 plus years). As for the 24p issue my combination seems to be handling it just fine. Regardless of the data I see only a minor issue and yes my 24p settings are correct, though at time I use the Sony's clear 1 for film material as burst and resolution patterns reveal its the only way all 1080 lines are presented during motion on engages backlight scanning. Even set to off though my judder appears normal. I have a film degree and have spent 10 years in the av industry from a sales/installation perspective and have been an enthusiast since I was a child. Not stating it isn't there but I just am not seeing the depth of the issue some are. I'm more concerned about audio quality here and it doesn't stack up, think I downgraded intentionally in order to convince myself I need a power amp. Oh well, hopefully onkyo can resolve this 24p issue for the masses. I'm sure software can do the job, really doubt it's a hardware issue.

Really big bummer. That kills all on screen menus ... Man is this a catch 22.

Anyone else experiencing a "chirp" noise with their receiver. Whenever I turn on the receiver to watch television (Pioneer Plasma) and switch to the Cbl/Sat input to watch (through my Motorola Cable Box and Comcast) I get a loud noticeable chirp sound through the speakers - my wife thought maybe we had a bird in the house the first time it happened. This generally happens only when I first switch over the the input, after a few seconds, but has happened on one or two other occasions when I simply turned up the volume after having watched for a bit. I have not yet determined if this happens when I use the BD input to watch through by PlayStation 3 or when I listen to Pandora through the Net or an ipod through the USB, but plan to explore that this weekend.

I am running 5.1 and my front speakers are Def Tech SM65's. I don't think it is a speaker issue as this did not happen with my Denon receiver but I have another pair of speakers I can hook up to see if it is limited to the Def Techs. I can't tell if it is coming from the surrounds as well as they are ceiling mounted.

I never experienced the chirp with any prior equipment.

I have seen some reports of chirps with other Onkyo receivers but nothing in this thread.

I have contacted Onkyo but not received a response as of yet. I tried calling but the wait time was excessive.

I have had the receiver a few weeks and am still within my 30 day return time.

In the picture custom settings, in the manual it shows u can control Mosquito, Random, and Block noise. The only options I see is Edge enhancement and noise reduction, am I missing something? Does these option's only show up if the source is 480i. Thanks.

unfortunetly this could also be a hardware issue, like a clock not being able to scale to the needed frequency. I really hope this is not the case.

Yes, set it to custom with NR off and you get everything.

I am also in the camp of does not see it, I have specifically tried not to go looking for it because I'm fairly pleased with my system and once I see something like that out comes the wallet and I've really been focused on the audio end as of late.

First off I thought this was different than the "soap opera" effect. My TV has a "motion smoother" setting which causes soap opera. I have been using 60hz and it is noticeable different then the soap opera effect to me.

I went to try to set everything to 24P and I'm a little confused on the settings. LG670 blue ray, easy to set to 24 P (I was at 60Hz). The onkyo is in "auto" so I thought that would pass through the 24 hz (bug inducing), but then my TV settings are where I'm stumped. I always keep the motion smoother off but my Panny Plasma 55ST30 has a setting called "24p Direct in" and the only possible settings for it are 48Hz or 60Hz. Does this mean my display will not do 24hz (23.976)?

Also On a different note, I turned the OSD off in the onkyo menu, but when I press settings (to tweak audio stuff, like sub level a couple db) I still get the OSD. I can navigate what I want in that quick settings menu through the onkyo's display. Is there any way to make that menu not pop up? Maybe I should just be using HDMI sub out, it goes away then right?

True, but I doubt Onkyo is prarusing these forums either. From what I gather they are in denile or something. We need to register our complaints with them so it can get recongized. unless I missed something, they don't know this exists.

If enough of us flooded them with service emails or something maybe they would take notice.

24p = 24.000/23.976 to your TV. Set the TV to 48Hz, but don't be surprised if it doesn't look great. Last I checked 48Hz had a lot of flicker on Panasonic PDPs, only the VT series really offers proper 24p support (@96Hz).

24P is FPS, not refresh rate. And yes use your 24P direct in, then watch a fast panning action scene. It looks like an earth quake. I didn't have my system setup right either, when I checked my BD player this AM I tested the Avengers, very depressing.

So basically, no matter what combo of settings I try, My display is going to hide it But the closest I can get is try 48hz?

Yes. Displaying 24 FPS @60Hz requires a 3:2 conversion.

That's telecine.

The new Oppo BD/VP (BDP-103) combo looks promising. Otherwise Lumagen.

No. Most OEMs don't make a distinction b/w 24.000 & 23.976 in the UI.

I don't think you'll be happy w/ 48Hz because of the issues w/ flicker. 3:2 judder is less annoying than flicker IMO.