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post #4201 of 9474
Hello people! Has anyone updated the new firmware ?. Did it go well for you and what did it fix ?

Please and thank you

Simon
post #4202 of 9474
I have't seen anything about a newer firmware since the July release. I know many are awaiting one to resolve this 24 frames issue.


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Originally Posted by Cardiacfatboy View Post

Hello people! Has anyone updated the new firmware ?. Did it go well for you and what did it fix ?

Please and thank you

Simon
post #4203 of 9474
Can someone please explain the digital crossover network concept? I have Polk monitor 70s hooked up to my 818 in Normal mode. How do I know if the speakers have or don't have a built in crossover network? Have I had them hooked up wrong this whole time? Thanks for the help!!
post #4204 of 9474
Ok I was watching some cable show I happened to look over at the receiver and I noticed the front display was all blank. But the sound was working fine I thought possibly the display went out. There was also a blue light on the very left edge of the receiver was on. Not sure how I did this. There must be a way to blank out the front display. Anyone know how to do this? I tried the dim button on the remote but that only dims the display ( hence the name for the button).
post #4205 of 9474
I realize everyone is concerned with the 24p bug, but does anyone have issus with pass audio to there tv when the unit is off? I use 7Mc via extenders (360) and the audio doesn't seem to pass to the tv. Video passes fine, just not with audio.

Thanks

EDIT: I found another post and apparently needed to a factory reset. Now it is working. Anyone else see this?
Edited by skybolt - 1/13/13 at 6:09am
post #4206 of 9474
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Originally Posted by cainman View Post

I have't seen anything about a newer firmware since the July release. I know many are awaiting one to resolve this 24 frames issue.
Mine just ran an update ?
post #4207 of 9474
can anyone tell me the difference between the 818 and the integra 50.4, I can get the integra for about 100 dollars more then the 818, I am wondering if it is worth it, thanks
post #4208 of 9474
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Originally Posted by panzer View Post

can anyone tell me the difference between the 818 and the integra 50.4, I can get the integra for about 100 dollars more then the 818, I am wondering if it is worth it, thanks

The Integra has two more 12v triggers and you can use one for the main zone rather than using Zone 2 aswell as Composite video out for Zone 2.
It also has some finer crossover adjustments and IR input/output functionality.

The Onkyo has Pure Audio mode (which the Integra lacks).

If none of these are worth $100 to you, then save your money.
post #4209 of 9474
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Originally Posted by Amacron View Post

Ok I was watching some cable show I happened to look over at the receiver and I noticed the front display was all blank. But the sound was working fine I thought possibly the display went out. There was also a blue light on the very left edge of the receiver was on. Not sure how I did this. There must be a way to blank out the front display. Anyone know how to do this? I tried the dim button on the remote but that only dims the display ( hence the name for the button).

That is pure audio mode... you can setup the listening mode presets so that a certain format automatically enables pure audio mode

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
post #4210 of 9474
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Originally Posted by Low Profile View Post

Yeah, discrete control is where it's at which is the primary reason I upgraded from my legacy receiver, an Onkyo TX-SR800.
Are able to control other components besides the TX-NR818? Are you using a mix of IR, RS-232, and IP?

Ideally, my "activitiy" list would look something like this:

Movie
Display Monitor: Cinema
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 0dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: 0dB
Buttkicker: 0dB

Rock Music
Display Monitor: Vivid
Audyssey: Flat/Music
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: +2dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

TV
Display Monitor: Standard
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Light
Subwoofer: -3dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

And so on...

I can already do most of this. But the lack of discrete IR codes (or my lack of knowledge of them) means it's not quite as automated as I'd like. For now, I have to press several buttons and navigate the relatively slow UI on the TX-NR818. Not quite idiot proof. The Pronto looks like it'll do everything I need. Unfortunately, it's discontinued.
post #4211 of 9474
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

Does anyone know if the network protocol is 10/100/1000 Base T or Just 10/100?
According the user manual, it's 100BASE-TX. My gigabit switch confirms this. (The gigabit LED is unlit.)

But I think that's more than sufficient because the TX-NR818 streams only audio anyway.
post #4212 of 9474
You would never need a gigabit ethernet for audio streaming.
post #4213 of 9474
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Originally Posted by chrisexv6 View Post

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Originally Posted by NanoElement View Post


What other models could reliably known to have a bug 23.976?

Some mentioned it might be a bug in the Marvell chip itself, but since other receivers use it and dont have the bug it would lead you to believe that the Onkyo firmware is the issue. Unfortunately it doesnt seem like Onkyo is eager to fix their firmware.

The Arcam AVR600 (non-3D model) and BDP100 both have 24p bug. Neither use Marvell or HQV. The BDP100 is based on Broadcom platform. Arcam said it's hardware issue.

I thought the Marvell in the 818 is only responsible for 4k scaling and HQV for the rest, so if it's not 4k output then HQV should be responsible?
post #4214 of 9474
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fahrenheit View Post

Its important to point out that some of the blu-rays you buy are 24.000fps. 'Some'.
The Hollywood blockbusters are often region free. The same disc pressed from the same master no matter where in the world you buy it. Those are almost certainly 23.976.

Let me just say that I am in New Zealand. A 'PAL' country. Jmpage2 is also in a PAL country. We have both categorically stated that we both experience this bug.

While I am the "swedish murder machine" I do in fact live in the US.
post #4215 of 9474
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cainman View Post

I have't seen anything about a newer firmware since the July release. I know many are awaiting one to resolve this 24 frames issue.

For the issue to be resolved Onkyo would have to even acknowledge that there is an issue, which they have not done as of yet.
post #4216 of 9474
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Originally Posted by SectorZero View Post

According the user manual, it's 100BASE-TX. My gigabit switch confirms this. (The gigabit LED is unlit.)

But I think that's more than sufficient because the TX-NR818 streams only audio anyway.

Thanks for the reply, that is exactly what I'm seeing on my gigabit switch as well. A gigabit port and the ability to stream video directly through the receiver would have been great and eliminated yet another box in my system.
post #4217 of 9474
Hi again ! Confusion here as I just added some Dali zensor 1 wides to my 818 and on switching it back on it said firmware update available, after checking here to see if it was a good update I noticed no one saying that there was an update ? So I installed the update. It downloaded,installed and reset.
The version on the screen is 1100-7101-0100-0000 is this new ? There is nothing about it on the onkyo site !
post #4218 of 9474
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Originally Posted by Cardiacfatboy View Post

The version on the screen is 1100-7101-0100-0000 is this new ?

This is the current firmware.
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Originally Posted by Cardiacfatboy View Post

There is nothing about it on the onkyo site !

There is. Read the update instructions at http://onkyousa.com/download/software.cfm
post #4219 of 9474
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Originally Posted by markus767 View Post

This is the current firmware.
There is. Read the update instructions at http://onkyousa.com/download/software.cfm
I'm aware that the onkyo site shows the update from last year !, I was referring to the fact that there was nothing about a new one ! In my previous post I mentioned confusion as to why my 818 had updated.
post #4220 of 9474
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Originally Posted by Cardiacfatboy View Post

I'm aware that the onkyo site shows the update from last year !, I was referring to the fact that there was nothing about a new one ! In my previous post I mentioned confusion as to why my 818 had updated.

Maybe you were running a previous firmware.
post #4221 of 9474
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Originally Posted by SectorZero View Post

Are able to control other components besides the TX-NR818? Are you using a mix of IR, RS-232, and IP?

Ideally, my "activitiy" list would look something like this:

Movie
Display Monitor: Cinema
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 0dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: 0dB
Buttkicker: 0dB

Rock Music
Display Monitor: Vivid
Audyssey: Flat/Music
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: +2dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

TV
Display Monitor: Standard
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Light
Subwoofer: -3dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

And so on...

I can already do most of this. But the lack of discrete IR codes (or my lack of knowledge of them) means it's not quite as automated as I'd like. For now, I have to press several buttons and navigate the relatively slow UI on the TX-NR818. Not quite idiot proof. The Pronto looks like it'll do everything I need. Unfortunately, it's discontinued.

The discrete code is available for IP. At least on irule (and Roomie probably) you can then control everything via IP and give you feedback as well. This is one of the main reason i upgrade to 818 as well.
post #4222 of 9474
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Originally Posted by markus767 View Post

Maybe you were running a previous firmware.

Hi thanks for reply, but no I was upto date according to the system as I had run update not long ago in a hope to solve an issue playing flac audio and true hd 5.1 audio through network , that didn't work either.... I guess it just got lonely and wanted some attention ...
post #4223 of 9474
Quote:
Originally Posted by SectorZero View Post

Are able to control other components besides the TX-NR818? Are you using a mix of IR, RS-232, and IP?

Ideally, my "activitiy" list would look something like this:

Movie
Display Monitor: Cinema
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 0dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: 0dB
Buttkicker: 0dB

Rock Music
Display Monitor: Vivid
Audyssey: Flat/Music
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Off
Subwoofer: +2dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

TV
Display Monitor: Standard
Audyssey: Reference/Movie
Dynamic EQ: On
Reference Offset: 15dB
Dyanmic Volume: Light
Subwoofer: -3dB
Buttkicker: -5dB

And so on...

I can already do most of this. But the lack of discrete IR codes (or my lack of knowledge of them) means it's not quite as automated as I'd like. For now, I have to press several buttons and navigate the relatively slow UI on the TX-NR818. Not quite idiot proof. The Pronto looks like it'll do everything I need. Unfortunately, it's discontinued.


If you have ipad or iphone, try Oremote app, best $4.99 that i spent on an app for this receiver. Most of the settings are one touch shortcuts on Oremote. I use it 95% of the time. For me, it also controls my cec hdmi conected oppo dvd player.
post #4224 of 9474
Audio Blip / Click Sound when video jumping or pausing...

A week ago I switched from 805 -> 818 and a new 'issue' is presenting itself that was not there with the 805. No other equipment or software changed. 818 has the latest firmware.

When I use XBMC or WMC7 to play a video I often jump pause, jump forward/back (replay or skip forward). The 818 seems to introduce a very annoying and loud audio artifact - blip/click, not sure what to call it - hear it in audio link below.
It happens with any/all video and audio encoding types.

Does anyone else have this problem?

link to short audio WAV file s you can hear the problem (volume is low, you may need to turn up your speakers)... http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=d3fcdeb25eb705176ba69647a9589895
Edited by Livin - 1/13/13 at 1:40pm
post #4225 of 9474
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

For the issue to be resolved Onkyo would have to even acknowledge that there is an issue, which they have not done as of yet.

They have acknowledged and reproduced the issue (they confirmed before I published my review in Oct). I saw my contact at CES and it doesn't look good, probably a hardware issue but he's double checking to confirm.
post #4226 of 9474
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

They have acknowledged and reproduced the issue (they confirmed before I published my review in Oct). I saw my contact at CES and it doesn't look good, probably a hardware issue but he's double checking to confirm.

That would be HQV's problem if it were a hardware issue. I somehow doubt that HQV would let this slip past them.
Most likely, Onkyo's software engineers have no idea what they are doing with HQV's SDK.
post #4227 of 9474
Al though I have not noticed the issue, I understand that does not mean it is not there . If it is a case that it is a hardware issue, then since the 0007 series every year there has been some sort of issue with the Onkyo receivers. Both hard or software.At least they offered a firmware to correct the issue if software if hardware they issued an ra to fix or at least made sure it was taken care of. This seems to be another one of those issues. If software they should offer a firmware, if hardware they should definitely offer free fix or replacement or a different unit of at least equal value. If they choose to ignore the issue and put owners through a dog and pony show as they presently are doing, then anyone thinking about purchasing one of these or another Onkyo should definitely wait to see the outcome. If people are noticing the issue on a recently purchased unit and still in the return window, I would seriously consider taking advantage of they're dealers return window.
post #4228 of 9474
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Originally Posted by fahrenheit View Post

That would be HQV's problem if it were a hardware issue. I somehow doubt that HQV would let this slip past them.
Most likely, Onkyo's software engineers have no idea what they are doing with HQV's SDK.

Not necessarily. HQV isn't the only HW that touches the video path, besides Marvell's there also has to be some sort of SoC orchestrating everything.
post #4229 of 9474
Quote:
Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

Not necessarily. HQV isn't the only HW that touches the video path, besides Marvell's there also has to be some sort of SoC orchestrating everything.

True. I guess that can be downstream of the HQV chipset.

I just find it a little odd that there is a discrepancy between 59.94 working on the Main output when Direct is used and yet it outputs to 60.000 on all the other picture presets. Its as though a few flags have been set incorrectly in the software.

I hope that is the case, because it would then be a trivial fix.
post #4230 of 9474
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

They have acknowledged and reproduced the issue (they confirmed before I published my review in Oct). I saw my contact at CES and it doesn't look good, probably a hardware issue but he's double checking to confirm.

If your contact at Onkyo knows about it, he should tell Onkyo's support people about it... wink.gif
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