Onkyo TX-NR818 "official" owner's thread discussion - Page 145

This is contrary to what others have reported... very interesting... What do people think? Do serial numbers / manufacturer dates need to be compared? Did Onkyo make a secret hardware change... (someone earlier suggest that)

No. Did not hear any loud artifact. I do use media player to play like mkv, rmvb and I had not hear such issue.
Did not use bluetooth speaker.. Not sure why you want to do that, is that for zone2??

For a complete disclosure, I did do the 24p test earlier (with Resolution set to Through), and confirm that it will convert 23.98 to 24 in that setting (with my Lumagen VP).
I bought mine about a month ago via B&H during black Friday sale.
To me, this 24p is a non issue because I have an Oppo and I had video direct to my VP anyway. However, if people need more testing, let me know and I can see what i can do.

That strange sound I hear happens about 80% of the time... the other 20% it does not... I'm not able to find a pattern to when it does/not happen. Very odd.

I was thinking it would be nice to put a bluetooth speaker in another room to listen to music... and be able to control it all from my phone.

It's not overblown if you can see it. It's very annoying. Set my receiver to "direct" video mode tonight. I'll watch some disks tomorrow and see what I see.

That won't work. Use the sub hdmi and it will work fine.

Make sure you set monitor out resolution to source first. If you set it to through, then it does not matter if it is through or direct in picture mode.

Perhaps that's why I've never seen it. I have resolution set to source, and the video settings set to "through"

Although lately I've just been using 60p on everything but bluray since 23.xx/24p introduces a couple annoying issues with my Optima HD33 projector.

Thanks for testing, I have seen the same results as you. I just picked this receiver up before Christmas, and with the right settings you can't beat it for the price.

I have tried several configurations and the test videos posted here and I can't see the issue.
Firmware No is 1000-7101-0100-0000. Do you all have this one? Is this the latest?

Hi folks,

I dont mean to 'hijack' this thread, but since we all have the Onkyo 818 receiver, i thought this would be a grrreat place to post this for feedback from veteran users...


I am a proud owner of a new Onkyo 818 receiver. So far i love it, for how the TV sounds going through 5.1 and Movies!

What i am noticing though when i play music, i like to just set it for 2 channel (so i have just the front loud speakers and my sub-woofer going). When i set it to 2 channel, i have been noticing the output for the two front speakers are pretty low, considering the volumne level.

NOW i do have some power hungry Polk Audio RTI10's for the Front Speakers. Right now i cant afford an external 2 channel amp to drive these two front speakers separately. (unlike you can point to a link for a really good deal like $200 or less LOL.


Any Suggestions on what settings i can change to make the two front speakers louder when setting it to 2 Channel????



Thanks for your help!

Jeremy

What if you record it with a handheld video camera....huh?

In response to not being able to record this bug and place it on you tube because it will be converted.

You know there are so many great features on this receiver, it would be so nice to talk about something than this issue that seems to appear for some. It would also be nice if some that seem to take offence to all that do not agree with them could be a little more civil. I have tried to see it and I do not. My concern is. If the try to fix it and mess something else up.. I find this receiver to be a great value and operates extremely well in my system.

Moderator it would be nice to see this thread get on track and not dwell on the same possible issue day after day (boring)

I'm sorry, but to repeat what jmpage2 said earier - you don't get to decide what is and isn't worthy of discussion. No one is breaking any rules and moderators aren't here to steer the topic in your favor.

This is a legacy issue. Look at the 807 and this is the 808
If you dismiss this issue as trivial, then you are simply handing the problem over to future 819 owners (or whatever the call this year's models).

If you wish to blame someone, then blame Onkyo.
Edited by fahrenheit - 1/20/13 at 2:40pm

Not trying to dictate what anyone says but the point has been well made and many of us who do not see the issue don't see it and it seems anyone who states that is highly critisized. Seems that some are dictating what we should and should not see. If the problem exists I would bet Onkyo will eventually acknowledge it and either fix it or state why not. Why should I who sees no visible issue on my 818, past 3009, 5008 and ,5007 , be considered responsible for it. But if it thrills you guys to keep bashing the 818 have fun. In my humble opinion the advantages of this receiver greatly out weigh the few so called disadvantages , and I would highly recommend it to anyone. I believe you meant this is the 818.

Pointing out a flaw and asking for others to recognize it and asking for it to be addressed, is not "bashing". If this problem is never fixed, I'll continue to own and love my AVR. Nothing in its price-point comes close. However, it still doesn't change the fact that I paid for a product with HQV processing and I'd like that functionality to work without question.

I believe if you had bothered to click the link and read it, you'd see I meant 808.

Everything requires compromise, the 818 is no exception. On one hand we have great sound, and a feature set unmatched by any AVR in the same price range. On the other, we have a flaky network stack and imprecise handling of decimal valued frame rates.

Discussing an issue is not "bashing". I can understand that you may not want to discuss the cons, but they are part of the package and therefore clearly valid for this thread. Everything is a choice, you can choose to ignore the things you don't want to hear, or not be here if that's outside your skill set.

Ultimately it's up to each of us to decide if the trade-offs are worth it, stifling discussion is not productive to potential buyers who should have access to all of the information that is available.

Oh excuse me!

Your right this was my first real discussion on the subject of any consequence. I definately will step aside and let you gentlemen continue your bashing and criticizing would not want to disrupt your great contribution of information on the 818.

For all you people that have the 818 running a TV and projector, do you have the projector as "main" or "sub" output? I have a TV that is currently on "main" and when we want to watch the screen, it comes down in front of the TV an I flip the output to "sub". But this config doesn't allow for any processing to the projector. Just wondering what everyone is doing. Thanks.

I don't understand why stifling discussion on a point that is clearly bothersome to a vocal segment of 818 owners is a valid use of your time. Most of us on the thread purchased an 818, sharing the +/- is kind of the point here isn't it? IMO, the + outweigh the - here or I would have sold it and moved on.

If you have input that you feel is important, by all means contribute; no one is trying to censor you.

Which has a good/better VP? That should drive the choice in your install.

I am on the fence between this 818, Denon 3313 and the Marantz 5007. The features and the upgraded Audessy on the 818 is what is attracting me to this model. The only thing keeping me from going in this direction is the 24 fps issue, do people know if this is even something that can be fixed with a firmware update or is it possible it would be a hardware physical replacement? I would be more likely to get something that can be fixed by firmware updates. The last thing I want to do is hook something up and unhook it to take it in, not for me!

I need to read up a little more on this issue. I am still confused on what it exactly is other than it is a video lag, etc.

Right, so the decision should be driven by which display (TV or projector) has the better VP.

If, for e.g., the projector has HQV, VXP, or something similar then it will be preferable to use sub and connect the main out to the TV. We don't know what mix is, there is rarely a one size fits all answer.

ARC would be another factor, but there are way around that so I consider it less important than optimizing VP across devices.

The TV is a Sharp LC60LE835U an the projector is an Epson 5010e - as far as what device does better processing, I would need a more expertise opinion. Any advice is appreciated.

I forgot to ask if there's a difference in the type of content you watch per display. If one of them is all BD (i.e. 1080p), then VP isn't very important (no scaling, need for NR, limited DI, etc.) and that should get the sub out.

If they are the same mix of TV, DVDs, OTT & BD content then you have a few choices.

1) TV : Main, Projector : Sub - quick look at both, it doesn't look like either has obviously better VP capabilities so you just need to choose the one that will suffer. I'd probably use Main w/ the projector because the screen size is larger (assumption) and any artifacts will be more apparent than on the 60" LCD.

2) TV & Projector : Main + HDMI splitter - it looks like these displays have similar capabilities (3D, 1080p, etc.) so if that's true having a single EDID represented back to the sources shouldn't cause a problem. The main benefit here is that the signal is always on so you don't have to worry about switching outputs, but if they have different capabilities (e.g. one accepts 24p and the other doesn't) or they don't play nice together on the same splitter (happens sometimes) then you'll want to...

3) TV & Projector : Main + HDMI switch - pretty much the same solution as 2 where you can leverage the 818's VP on both, but since only one display is enabled at a time the potential for EDID issues is much lower.

2 + 3 are more complex installs, and there is potential that you'll run into HDMI repeater/HDCP problems (3 devices in the chain is an edge case that isn't tested very well for), but if you want to maximize PQ one of these might be your best option.

Personally, I'd start w/ #1 and only entertain 2 or 3 if I wasn't happy w/ the results.