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post #4681 of 6977
1/30/13 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by NLaudiophile View Post

Can anyone tell me if the 818 is capable of producing enough power at the 1.6 ohm rating. I know certain frequencies require more power, and I'm using a set of 6 ohm rated Martin Logan ESLs, they can dip to 1.6 ohms in order to send out the 20-22 kHz range.

Thanks

Why match a $700 avr with those speakers?
Just saying.....
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post #4682 of 6977
1/30/13 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by groundtrac View Post

Very happy to report that this was indeed the issue. I thought I had all 1.4v hdmi, but apparently the one going from my BD to the receiver was not! Everything is working perfectly now, thanks so much for pointing out this completely obvious solution to me that I should have thought of in the first place.
glad I could be of some assist! that's what we're here for smile.gif
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post #4683 of 6977
1/30/13 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Why match a $700 avr with those speakers?
Just saying.....

It's a great receiver, that's worth more than $700. Anyone have a legitimate answer??
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post #4684 of 6977
1/30/13 at 9:22pm
Bootman is making a legitimate point.

A 1.6 ohm load will overburden many quality separate power amplifiers with a lot more juice than the TX-NR818.
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post #4685 of 6977
1/30/13 at 9:34pm
I know one person running Martin Logan electrostatic speakers (mains, center and surrounds) and his system sounds incredibly good. He's using Pass Labs monoblocks to power the Martin Logans - different price point altogether.
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post #4686 of 6977
1/30/13 at 9:43pm
Do you think I should look into buying a couple of amps? Don't really want to spend more money if I don't have too. Im planning on having all speakers, Martin Logan's. the sound from the fronts are crystal clear and amazing speakers.
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post #4687 of 6977
1/30/13 at 10:10pm
The Pass Labs monoblocks would obviously be overkill.

I'm no expert on your Martin-Logan speakers but I do think you'll need some decent amplification.

Check back with the folks who sold them to you to see what they advise. Try calling Martin Logan and see if they'll point you in the right direction.

I googled Amplifier for Martin Logan ESL speakers and there's some good info to read.

Your speakers have gotten some great reviews.
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post #4688 of 6977
1/30/13 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

Holy crap !! Are there ANY ONKYO's that are trouble free ??
Every time i read Onkyo threads
, it's all about one problem or another !!

I can't find anything wrong with mine. I've looked.
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post #4689 of 6977
1/30/13 at 11:01pm
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Originally Posted by 6sj7gt View Post

I can't find anything wrong with mine. I've looked.


Lets see for how long...
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post #4690 of 6977
1/31/13 at 1:25am
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Originally Posted by cytoSiN View Post


Thanks for this. Do you have any images from your VP (thought you mentioned sending post-FW-update images to Onkyo), and if so, do you mind posting them here? Thanks again!

Yes I sent them some.

I re-took two just now with the GUI in the background so to leave no doubt it's from the HDMI main output. I'm not going to take pics of every mode, just the cinema mode I'm using as they are all showing the same. Since nobody seems interested in 50.00fps and 24.00fps which were correct before I'm not going to upload them. Both HDMI main and sub are on and 'auto'.


Fig. 1. Firmware version shown on the 818's front display after the beta update.


Fig. 2. 1080p23.98 from 1080p23.98 film BD on 818's HDMI main output.



Fig. 3. 1080p59.94 from 1080i59.94 concert video BD on 818's HDMI main output.

People who didn't get the beta fw should have patience before the formal release. I'd rather it has gone through thorough testing before release than rushing through it and found to have other issues.
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post #4691 of 6977
1/31/13 at 5:41am
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Originally Posted by NLaudiophile View Post

It's a great receiver, that's worth more than $700. Anyone have a legitimate answer??

If it can run a 1.6 ohm load without any issues, sure.
i just don't know of any $700 AVR that can do that.

Used as an AVP with an amp suitible for the job, it is not a problem at all. cool.gif
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post #4692 of 6977
1/31/13 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by NLaudiophile View Post

Do you think I should look into buying a couple of amps? Don't really want to spend more money if I don't have too. Im planning on having all speakers, Martin Logan's. the sound from the fronts are crystal clear and amazing speakers.

My honest answer is try it as is.
If YOU are happy with the sound, GREAT.
If not, there are many other threads that can offer amp choices.
But you are not even at that stage yet.
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post #4693 of 6977
1/31/13 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by NLaudiophile View Post

Do you think I should look into buying a couple of amps? Don't really want to spend more money if I don't have too. Im planning on having all speakers, Martin Logan's. the sound from the fronts are crystal clear and amazing speakers.

 I would eat my hat without ketchup if the 818 could drive 1.6 ohm loads...

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post #4694 of 6977
1/31/13 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by Kilian.ca View Post

Yes I sent them some.

I re-took two just now with the GUI in the background so to leave no doubt it's from the HDMI main output. I'm not going to take pics of every mode, just the cinema mode I'm using as they are all showing the same. Since nobody seems interested in 50.00fps and 24.00fps which were correct before I'm not going to upload them. Both HDMI main and sub are on and 'auto'.

< snipped images >

People who didn't get the beta fw should have patience before the formal release. I'd rather it has gone through thorough testing before release than rushing through it and found to have other issues.

You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Thanks very much.
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post #4695 of 6977
1/31/13 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

 I would eat my hat without ketchup if the 818 could drive 1.6 ohm loads...

If it comes to be please post on YouTube.
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post #4696 of 6977
1/31/13 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by Kilian.ca View Post

Yes I sent them some.

I re-took two just now with the GUI in the background so to leave no doubt it's from the HDMI main output. I'm not going to take pics of every mode, just the cinema mode I'm using as they are all showing the same. Since nobody seems interested in 50.00fps and 24.00fps which were correct before I'm not going to upload them. Both HDMI main and sub are on and 'auto'.


Fig. 1. Firmware version shown on the 818's front display after the beta update.


Fig. 2. 1080p23.98 from 1080p23.98 film BD on 818's HDMI main output.



Fig. 3. 1080p59.94 from 1080i59.94 concert video BD on 818's HDMI main output.

People who didn't get the beta fw should have patience before the formal release. I'd rather it has gone through thorough testing before release than rushing through it and found to have other issues.

Great stuff. Thanks!

I noticed the color space is RGB. Is RGB the color space being provided to the 818? I'm wondering if the 818 is converting to RGB...
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post #4697 of 6977
1/31/13 at 8:32am
Hi again,

I'm using the internal digital crossover for bi-amping my front speakers, and yesterday when I wanted to listen late at night with headphones I could only hear the sound of the bass register. (When using the digital crossover it's the woofers of the front speakers that are connected to the original "front L & R", and the "front wide/surround back channel" is assigned to the front higher frequencies.)

Does anyone know a way to work around this problem? The manual didn't mention it, so I also sent an email to onkyo support asking the same question.
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post #4698 of 6977
1/31/13 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Lets see for how long...
Since I bought it last July, but let's see for how long rolleyes.gif
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post #4699 of 6977
1/31/13 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by 6sj7gt View Post

Since I bought it in August, but let's see for how long rolleyes.gif
I agree. No problems here.
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post #4700 of 6977
1/31/13 at 10:39am
So nodes how long is yours lastingl?
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post #4701 of 6977
1/31/13 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by JeremyM1978 View Post

Hi folks,

I dont mean to 'hijack' this thread, but since we all have the Onkyo 818 receiver, i thought this would be a grrreat place to post this for feedback from veteran users...


I am a proud owner of a new Onkyo 818 receiver. So far i love it, for how the TV sounds going through 5.1 and Movies!

What i am noticing though when i play music, i like to just set it for 2 channel (so i have just the front loud speakers and my sub-woofer going). When i set it to 2 channel, i have been noticing the output for the two front speakers are pretty low, considering the volumne level.

NOW i do have some power hungry Polk Audio RTI10's for the Front Speakers. Right now i cant afford an external 2 channel amp to drive these two front speakers separately. (unlike you can point to a link for a really good deal like $200 or less LOL.


Any Suggestions on what settings i can change to make the two front speakers louder when setting it to 2 Channel????



Thanks for your help!

Jeremy

I set my main fronts to full when listening to music. This way they get all the info they need.

But that said I no longer listen to music on the 818 ! It's just not good enough for music and yes that's just my opinion

It will struggle with high bit rate FLACS for instance.



So I went and got an onkyo cn-755 and Dali zensor 5's ... Job done...
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post #4702 of 6977
1/31/13 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

For those that have 2 SUBS w/the 818 (I just got a new one) that are NOT the same sub or mfg (one is Aperion, the other BIC Acoustech): did you run audyssey for each sub independent of the other first to get to 75db? I ran Audyssey and since I had already ran it prior to the new sub I left the aperion plugged in and adjusted the BIC until it hit 75db. Thoughts?

In response to this post I have since purchased another PL-200 Bic Acoustech sub so now I have 2 of the same.
Since Audyssey for this AVR does not calibrate them separately - should I still connect them individually to the AVR? Connect them to one Y-splitter and have one sub-out from the AVR splitting to both subs? Should one be set to 0 phase and the other 180 or both 0 or both 180?
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post #4703 of 6977
1/31/13 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

In response to this post I have since purchased another PL-200 Bic Acoustech sub so now I have 2 of the same.
Since Audyssey for this AVR does not calibrate them separately - should I still connect them individually to the AVR? Connect them to one Y-splitter and have one sub-out from the AVR splitting to both subs? Should one be set to 0 phase and the other 180 or both 0 or both 180?

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/multiple-subwoofer-setup-calibration-1

Then read:

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/subwoofer-connection-guide
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post #4704 of 6977
1/31/13 at 6:45pm
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Originally Posted by cytoSiN View Post

You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Thanks very much.

You're welcome!
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Great stuff. Thanks!

I noticed the color space is RGB. Is RGB the color space being provided to the 818? I'm wondering if the 818 is converting to RGB...

You're welcome!

RGB is converted by the Edge from YCbCr input from Onkyo: I can choose what the Edge outputs. Player sends YCbCr to Onkyo. What Onkyo and AVRs in general output is up to HDMI EDID from the connected device: you can't choose. That's one instance where a dedicated vp offers more flexibility than the one built inside AVRs.
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post #4705 of 6977
1/31/13 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

In response to this post I have since purchased another PL-200 Bic Acoustech sub so now I have 2 of the same.
Since Audyssey for this AVR does not calibrate them separately - should I still connect them individually to the AVR? Connect them to one Y-splitter and have one sub-out from the AVR splitting to both subs?

The 818's sub outputs are the ends of an internal Y-cable so it really doesn't matter which method you're using.
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Should one be set to 0 phase and the other 180 or both 0 or both 180?

Depends on your room and the location of subs and listener. You would need to measure to find the best settings and placement.
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post #4706 of 6977
2/1/13 at 12:53am
quick question... does 818 support video over DLNA?? I don't think so but want to confirm and in case someone got it to work somehow.
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post #4707 of 6977
2/1/13 at 1:26am
No, audio only. For supported file formats see page 109 of the manual.
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post #4708 of 6977
2/1/13 at 1:34am
Not that I know of.
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post #4709 of 6977
2/1/13 at 6:23am
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Originally Posted by markus767 View Post

The 818's sub outputs are the ends of an internal Y-cable so it really doesn't matter which method you're using.
Depends on your room and the location of subs and listener. You would need to measure to find the best settings and placement.

Thanks - another query: should the cross over on my sub be set to "in" or "out"?
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post #4710 of 6977
2/1/13 at 6:29am
"in/out"? Is that a switch to disable any filter in your sub? If yes, then disable it.
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