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post #4801 of 7042
2/6/13 at 8:16am
Got an email yesterday with firmware, but it was the official one. Another email today with another.
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post #4802 of 7042
2/6/13 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

This message was posted on 2-5-13 at 6PM at the Onkyo USA Support site;

"Please send your requests for the firmware update to the following email address askOnkyo@us.onkyo.com; we are monitoring the transmission of this F/W update and will monitor all feedback. Have a great evening!!

Forum Moderator"

http://forums.onkyousa.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138&start=190

Thanks Patrick. I will make the request there. Good to see that they are still taking requests and sending out updates.
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post #4803 of 7042
2/6/13 at 8:50am
Can't I just get the latest firmware updates on the web through the receiver? Do I have to request it in an email?
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post #4804 of 7042
2/6/13 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by brunotheboxer View Post

Can't I just get the latest firmware updates on the web through the receiver? Do I have to request it in an email?

Yes, once it's been officially released. The ones being referenced here are beta and only available by sending an e-mail to Onkyo.
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post #4805 of 7042
2/6/13 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by BWD69 View Post

I got it, too! I'll go ahead and stick it on my USB drive and let someone else tell me if it's safe!!!tongue.gif

As I posted before, the number seems higher, even though the file is dated from July 2012. But, when I tried to intall it, it won't install, the 818 just gives me the "Current Firmware" status message, which means that the firmware I already have installed is a later version -- go figure. For reference, this is the firmware number of the "test firmware" for the 24p bug fix:

1110-8103-0101-0000

This is the number for the one they just sent out dated 07-24-2012:

1141-0108-0400

It seems this second one does in fact have less digits, at least, but who can keep track of how they number these things?

Oddly enough, they just sent me a third email with the "test" firmware again.
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post #4806 of 7042
2/6/13 at 10:07am
Thanks Patrick.
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post #4807 of 7042
2/6/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by brunotheboxer View Post

Thanks Patrick.

You're welcome.
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post #4808 of 7042
2/6/13 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy View Post

As I posted before, the number seems higher, even though the file is dated from July 2012. But, when I tried to intall it, it won't install, the 818 just gives me the "Current Firmware" status message, which means that the firmware I already have installed is a later version -- go figure. For reference, this is the firmware number of the "test firmware" for the 24p bug fix:

1110-8103-0101-0000

This is the number for the one they just sent out dated 07-24-2012:

1141-0108-0400

It seems this second one does in fact have less digits, at least, but who can keep track of how they number these things?

Oddly enough, they just sent me a third email with the "test" firmware again.

Complete guess... But...

Perhaps the additional "-0000" represents a developer or beta build and the "1141-0108-0400" is a release rebranding (which is the same, just labeled differently) that might end up at all customers...
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post #4809 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:00pm
saw it posted in the 'great deals found' thread and wanted to mention it here. B & H is offering the 818 for $599 free shipping. Just ordered 1. You must call the order in. credit to dazoy for original post.
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post #4810 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:07pm
I got this yesterday 1141-0108-0400 and this today 1110-8103-0101-0000 which is the 24fps fix they sent me before! What's going on???
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post #4811 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

Thanks for the info good to know, I couldn't find that info in the manual. Can you pass the digital signal if you were using Zone 2/3 pre-outs?

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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

No idea, but I doubt it. It is in the 818 manual that Zones 2/3 are analog only, as I clearly recall having stumbled across it at some point.

I found a workaround the analog zone 2. Plug RCA cables from the L/R Front Pre-outs into analog input.
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post #4812 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by BWD69 View Post

I got this yesterday 1141-0108-0400 and this today 1110-8103-0101-0000 which is the 24fps fix they sent me before! What's going on???

That is the firmware version that was sent to me and the issue seams to be solved.
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post #4813 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by wlhungdude View Post

saw it posted in the 'great deals found' thread and wanted to mention it here. B & H is offering the 818 for [Amazing Price] + free shipping. Just ordered 1. You must call the order in. credit to dazoy for original post.

I couldn't pass this up. I ordered one also... it's true!

I was going back and forth between this and a Denon 2313... There are obvious pros/cons, but the price and the 24fps fix (hopefully!) made me go with the 818...

IMHO, the 818 wins on...

1) Better Audyssey XT32
2) Better video processing (if you need it)
3) More HDMI inputs (+ 2 outputs)
4) THX certified (if you care)
5) and this one is silly, but I couldn't get over how light the new Denons are. 818 is 2x as heavy.

Negatives?

1) It doesn't have Airplay (but I have an airport express)
2) "Spotty" quality in past generations
Edited by MadMyers - 2/6/13 at 12:53pm
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post #4814 of 7042
2/6/13 at 12:52pm
Just picked one up too! Half MSRP price and free shipping is fantastic! Been teetering between this and the Denon 3313. Couldn't pass up XT32 at this price!
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post #4815 of 7042
2/6/13 at 1:01pm
Hello folks. Ive been following this thread for a while now and just got the fortitude to post because I'm going to jump on that great B & H deal for the 818. Does any one know of a great blue ray player that has high end audio for a nice B&W speaker system on a budget of $500 or less?
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post #4816 of 7042
2/6/13 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by quicknick View Post

Hello folks. Ive been following this thread for a while now and just got the fortitude to post because I'm going to jump on that great B & H deal for the 818. Does any one know of a great blue ray player that has high end audio for a nice B&W speaker system on a budget of $500 or less?

I use B&W 6833 ,685'600 cent. Oppo 103 or Sony 790' had Sony but sold got the oppo really either just a preference for the oppo I also added the roku stick all works great for me.
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post #4817 of 7042
2/6/13 at 2:03pm
So to those who were able to get the firmware beta, did it definitively correct the 24fps bug?
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post #4818 of 7042
2/6/13 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by bysdontcry View Post

... did it definitively correct the 24fps bug?

Yes...
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post #4819 of 7042
2/6/13 at 2:46pm
From what I see - yes. Running 1110-8103-0101-0000
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post #4820 of 7042
2/6/13 at 2:56pm
William- are you running your Oppo direct to your tv or through a receiver/amp? The great reviews on the Oppo 103 are as a "stand-a-alone" device rather than its audio prowess being run through and external device, (ie. receiver/amp). Have you tried it both ways? direct and indirect? Did you see any difference in video quality?

My Onkyo 818 has a THQV Vida VHD1900 video processor which says that it enhances the quality of high-definition sources as well as standard-definition sources. The Onkyo's HQV StreamClean technology also alleges that it does a nice job in cleaning up the lower quality online sources. With the ISF Video Calibration I would think that video input sources look their best. So,..I think that I wouldn't lose any video quality; rather have the ability to even further enhance it. Do I have this right or not?
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post #4821 of 7042
2/6/13 at 3:00pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fredthesoundguy View Post


I found a workaround the analog zone 2. Plug RCA cables from the L/R Front Pre-outs into analog input.

That's a good idea, but kind of limited, and really not much different than simply running the analog out from your source in the 1st place... unless somehow this is letting you get audio from ANY input on the AVR to zone 2/3.
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post #4822 of 7042
2/6/13 at 3:01pm
Thanks!
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post #4823 of 7042
2/6/13 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by quicknick View Post

William- are you running your Oppo direct to your tv or through a receiver/amp? The great reviews on the Oppo 103 are as a "stand-a-alone" device rather than its audio prowess being run through and external device, (ie. receiver/amp). Have you tried it both ways? direct and indirect? Did you see any difference in video quality?

My Onkyo 818 has a THQV Vida VHD1900 video processor which says that it enhances the quality of high-definition sources as well as standard-definition sources. The Onkyo's HQV StreamClean technology also alleges that it does a nice job in cleaning up the lower quality online sources. With the ISF Video Calibration I would think that video input sources look their best. So,..I think that I wouldn't lose any video quality; rather have the ability to even further enhance it. Do I have this right or not?

I have the oppo set to source to the 818 set on direct oppo hdmi 1 out to 818 818hdmiv1 out to tv and pj through a splitter pic audio awesome no issues. I do use external amps
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post #4824 of 7042
2/6/13 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

I couldn't pass this up. I ordered one also... it's true!

I was going back and forth between this and a Denon 2313... There are obvious pros/cons, but the price and the 24fps fix (hopefully!) made me go with the 818...

IMHO, the 818 wins on...

1) Better Audyssey XT32
2) Better video processing (if you need it)
3) More HDMI inputs (+ 2 outputs)
4) THX certified (if you care)
5) and this one is silly, but I couldn't get over how light the new Denons are. 818 is 2x as heavy.

Negatives?

1) It doesn't have Airplay (but I have an airport express)
2) "Spotty" quality in past generations

Perhaps this also points to a closeout --- like an earlier post said Crutchfield cannot get them anymore?
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post #4825 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

like an earlier post said Crutchfield cannot get them anymore?

Currently in stock at crutchfield.com...smile.gif
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post #4826 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:14pm
I did see the Crutchfield "closeout" remark... but I would think they'd have a replacement announced before they discontinued a current model year product. Besides, this AVR hits all the right buttons, for me, as far as features I want without having to pay for more features I don't need. YMMV.

thanks again to dazoy for finding and sharing this deal.
Joseph
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post #4827 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by fredthesoundguy View Post


I found a workaround the analog zone 2. Plug RCA cables from the L/R Front Pre-outs into analog input.

This limits you to listening to the same content as the main zone.
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Perhaps this also points to a closeout --- like an earlier post said Crutchfield cannot get them anymore?

The Crutchfield sales person was just trying to get someone to buy something else. It shows IN STOCK at Crutchfield today...
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post #4828 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Complete guess... But...

Perhaps the additional "-0000" represents a developer or beta build and the "1141-0108-0400" is a release rebranding (which is the same, just labeled differently) that might end up at all customers...

Makes sense, I wonder how that would affect the 818 from recognising further new updates, though? If the number actually changes and it still sees it as the same firmware version, (or older) there must be something else in there keeping it from updating again.
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post #4829 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:43pm
How much is that like 600? I missed out on the New Years time price drop of the 809 so I'm tyring to catch up with something right now lol
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post #4830 of 7042
2/6/13 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by bysdontcry View Post

So to those who were able to get the firmware beta, did it definitively correct the 24fps bug?


Yes, it also partially corrected the audio dropout problem for me if anyone cares. High-res audio dropouts (48/24 and higher, sometimes 44.1/24 and up) no longer occur when choosing DLNA option, but still occur when choosing "Home Media" option.
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