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Anyone jumping over to the 929?
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Anyone jumping over to the 929?

Nope.
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Originally Posted by Burningcoals View Post


If you WANT the CLEANEST pass-through video on the Onkyo 818, use HDMI 2 (Sub) out. It's the only reason I didn't return this receiver.


Issue with that is you lose that OSD that is required to tinker with the setup mad.gif
post #7444 of 9536
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Anyone jumping over to the 929?

I'm debating it. But since I'm getting an Oppo 105 BD player which has on-board networking, first-class video processing and super-duper DAC's, the 929 kind of seems like overkill.
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Anyone jumping over to the 929?

nada...
post #7446 of 9536
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Originally Posted by Just Nick View Post

Not to be a pest, but did you have a chance to try it, Nodes?


trying to do what you are doing but I cannot locate where you are in the menus.


can you write down the exact menu(s) you see on your 818?
Edited by NODES - 7/7/13 at 12:06pm
post #7447 of 9536
So I accidentally cleared my receiver instead of turning off Deep Color.

I had to redo all 8 points of XT32, what I noticed was one of my back surround speakers when doing the pulses was twice as loud as any of the other speakers..

After final calibration all of my speakers are in the mid to high negatives (-)
post #7448 of 9536
Recently following a power outage, my 818 could not be turned on. The Network Standby amber led was on, but the power button on the receiver, the remote and the remote app could not turn the receiver on. I unplugged it and replugged it immediately and it turned on, but immediately shut off. I feared something bad happened despite having surge protectors, but it turns out the unit was simply in protection mode. You have to unplug it for a full 5 min before being able to turn it on. I just wanted to share this even if it's in the troubleshooting section of the manual.

Another anecdote: I tried to slide the receiver forward on the shelf it was on in my HT cabinet but the receiver is so heavy that one of the plastic pin that supported the shelf broke and the hole shelf and receiver fell -- on my PS3. Wow. No damage from that, surprisingly, but now I'm in the process of turning that shelf into a sliding shelf by adding heavy duty drawer slides underneath. That will greatly help fiddling behind the receiver. It's just too heavy to slide forward comfortably on a shelf.
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^^That's good information.. the first paragraph at least. Sounds like you dodged a few bullets.
post #7450 of 9536
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Recently following a power outage, my 818 could not be turned on. The Network Standby amber led was on, but the power button on the receiver, the remote and the remote app could not turn the receiver on. I unplugged it and replugged it immediately and it turned on, but immediately shut off. I feared something bad happened despite having surge protectors, but it turns out the unit was simply in protection mode. You have to unplug it for a full 5 min before being able to turn it on. I just wanted to share this even if it's in the troubleshooting section of the manual.

Another anecdote: I tried to slide the receiver forward on the shelf it was on in my HT cabinet but the receiver is so heavy that one of the plastic pin that supported the shelf broke and the hole shelf and receiver fell -- on my PS3. Wow. No damage from that, surprisingly, but now I'm in the process of turning that shelf into a sliding shelf by adding heavy duty drawer slides underneath. That will greatly help fiddling behind the receiver. It's just too heavy to slide forward comfortably on a shelf.
It's a monster isn't it? I tried casually sliding it yesterday but nope didn't move. Thanks for the tip.
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I tried to slide the receiver forward on the shelf it was on in my HT cabinet but the receiver is so heavy that one of the plastic pin that supported the shelf broke and the hole shelf and receiver fell -- on my PS3. Wow. No damage from that, surprisingly, but now I'm in the process of turning that shelf into a sliding shelf by adding heavy duty drawer slides underneath. That will greatly help fiddling behind the receiver. It's just too heavy to slide forward comfortably on a shelf.

My glass shelf almost collapsed too. I tried to slide the 818 out to get access to the connection on the back. The grips of the receiver legs are very good so when I slid the 818, it actually moved the entire glass plate off of the shelf support brackets and it almost collapsed onto the lower glass shelf. Thank god I managed to grab the front of the receiver before that happened. It is HEAVY!
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It's exactly what happened albeit with a wood shelf. Clearly a tray-like shelf, if I can make it to sustain the weight of the receiver, will really, really help managing connections. The drawer slides are all steel with steel ball bearings -- and they look similar to the sliding shelves in my pantry, which support dozens of cans, so I'm confident this will work.

Clearly with this receiver, I have a better idea now of what constitutes the ideal home theater cabinet. I just have about no carpentry skills so I just hope I won't destroy my cabinet doing the mods.biggrin.gif
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I have some thick glass shelves on mine, but the bottom one that holds my Emotiva amp is warped smile.gif
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

I have some thick glass shelves on mine, but the bottom one that holds my Emotiva amp is warped smile.gif

Glass warps? Who knew?

Glass is technically a liquid however, so over several hundred thousands years it may in fact sag a bit... That must be one old cabinet. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

trying to do what you are doing but I cannot locate where you are in the menus.


can you write down the exact menu(s) you see on your 818?

My settings are almost exactly like yours:

Under Speaker Settings:

Powered Zone 2/3 NO

Pre Out External Amp: Front Wide

I, too, use PLIIx Movie Audyssey DSX

But when I get here:

Selecting Speaker Layout
1 Press RECEIVER followed by SP (speaker layout)
repeatedly to select:

■9.1 ch playback
􀁠Speaker Layout:SB/FH:
The sounds from surround back and front high
speakers are output by priority.
􀁠Speaker Layout:SB/FW:
The sounds from surround back and front wide
speakers are output by priority.
􀁠Speaker Layout:FH/FW:
The sounds from front high and front wide
speakers are output by priority.

■7.1 ch playback
􀁠Speaker Layout:FH:
The sound from front high speakers is output by
priority.
􀁠Speaker Layout:FW:
The sound from front wide speakers is output by
priority.
􀁠Speaker Layout:SB:
The sound from surround back speakers is
output by priority.
Note
• This setting is not available in either of the following cases:
– The “Speakers Type (Front)” setting is set to “Bi-Amp”
or “Digital Crossover”.
– The “Powered Zone 2/3” setting is set to “Yes” and
Zone 2/3 is turned on.
Important:
• The following layouts are only available when the
“Preout to External Amplifier” setting (➔ page 59)
and all corresponding speakers are enabled.
• Playback conditions may be limited depending on the settings
in “Speaker Settings” (➔ page 59) and “Speaker
Configuration” (➔ page 60).
• When a listening mode which doesn’t support front high,
front wide or surround back speakers is used, this setting
cannot be selected.

...I always get "unavailable." Makes me think I don't have setup properly for 9.1.

If you could, just let me know if you can toggle between the various surround options. I can't seem to be able to do that. If you can, that's the issue. Thanks again for hanging in there on this one. I sincerely appreciate your time and efforts.

Just Nick
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Glass warps? Who knew?

Glass is technically a liquid however, so over several hundred thousands years it may in fact sag a bit... That must be one old cabinet. wink.gif

closing in on 4 years from Costco!
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Originally Posted by Just Nick View Post

My settings are almost exactly like yours:

Under Speaker Settings:

Powered Zone 2/3 NO

Pre Out External Amp: Front Wide

I, too, use PLIIx Movie Audyssey DSX

But when I get here:

Selecting Speaker Layout
1 Press RECEIVER followed by SP (speaker layout)
repeatedly to select:

Just Nick


Are all 9 speakers showing on the display of the 818? Watch a blue ray and check each speaker for sound is what I did.

I do not use the original remote, will have to dig it out to test it.
Edited by NODES - 7/9/13 at 8:05pm
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Any specifics?
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

I appreciate you are posting your experience. I have a ps3 and I have not noticed this condition.

Can you provide some examples of the problem? Not necessarily pictures as I understand that would be difficult. But rather some specific content showing the issue you see or maybe a test pattern. I would be interested in trying to reproduce it.


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Originally Posted by Burningcoals View Post

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Originally Posted by theoneofgod View Post

Have you disabled "Deep Colour" on the PS3?

If you read my message you quoted, I mentioned I have tried turning off Deep Color on the Receiver and or PS3, and Both even. Turning off Deep Color on either the PS3 or the AVR does help clean up the pass-through signal on HDMI 1 Out, however it does not completely solve it. There will always be some alteration on the video signal passing through HDMI 1 Main Out.

I have now had time to play with this receiver for a few weeks and I am a bit disappointed in visual pass-through quality, I really wish Onkyo never tried to implement Deep Color.

If you WANT the CLEANEST pass-through video on the Onkyo 818, use HDMI 2 (Sub) out. It's the only reason I didn't return this receiver.
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Edited by amosust - 7/10/13 at 1:32am
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ditto
Edited by GIEGAR - 7/10/13 at 4:39am
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Are all 9 speakers showing on the display of the 818? Watch a blue ray and check each speaker for sound is what I did.

I do not use the original remote, will have to dig it out to test it.

Yes. All nine are showing on the display, and in PLIIx Movie Audyssey DSX mode, I have sound coming out of all 9.

I'm just perplexed that when I get to what looks like the final step of 9.1 configuration (selecting speaker layout), it won't let me do it.

Thanks again, Nodes.

Just Nick
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Reading the 809 thread, those are now starting to die on people....thank god for my new 818 rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Just Nick View Post

Yes. All nine are showing on the display, and in PLIIx Movie Audyssey DSX mode, I have sound coming out of all 9.

I'm just perplexed that when I get to what looks like the final step of 9.1 configuration (selecting speaker layout), it won't let me do it.

Thanks again, Nodes.

Just Nick


I cannot locate the remote, will need to program that button on my harmony.

Do you know what the button function is called exactly?
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Reading the 809 thread, those are now starting to die on people....thank god for my new 818 rolleyes.gif
Reading about Onkyo fail rates is depressing. I've spent quite a lot of time checking out other AV's for when my 818 packs up...
You don't help though! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by theoneofgod View Post

Reading about Onkyo fail rates is depressing. I've spent quite a lot of time checking out other AV's for when my 818 packs up...
You don't help though! smile.gif


Sorry smile.gif I cannot believe they cant perfect these failing HDMI boards, slap some heatsinks and fans on them...

I am just glad I got 4 year extended warranties on my 809 and 818

I was so scared of my 808 dying on me I sold it just after 13 months of use, went for the 809 with the 4yr in house warranty.
Edited by NODES - 7/10/13 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

I cannot locate the remote, will need to program that button on my harmony.

Do you know what the button function is called exactly?

Hey Nodes:

Thanks again for hanging in there. The button is called "SP (speaker layout) button."

From page 12 of the manual:

For detailed information, see the pages in parentheses.
a 8 RECEIVER button (23)
b ACTIVITIES buttons (50)
c REMOTE MODE/INPUT SELECTOR buttons (26)
d SP (speaker layout) button (49)
e q/w/e/r and ENTER buttons
f Q SETUP button (51)
g Listening Mode buttons (40)
h DIMMER button (48)
i DISPLAY button (48)
j MUTING button (49)
k VOL q/w button (26)
l RETURN button
m HOME button (47)
n SLEEP button (48)

Thank you!

Just Nick
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After reading pg. 49 (concerning prioritizing FW/FH/SB). I think the source needs to have 9.1 in it. I too run 9.1 (FH/SB), and when I press the "sp" button it says "not available" on the screen. I could be completely wrong (most likely), but can only think of this when reading the manual. I usually run Neo X cinema or Pllz heights, I can't enable DSX at all.
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Originally Posted by grpape View Post

After reading pg. 49 (concerning prioritizing FW/FH/SB). I think the source needs to have 9.1 in it. I too run 9.1 (FH/SB), and when I press the "sp" button it says "not available" on the screen. I could be completely wrong (most likely), but can only think of this when reading the manual. I usually run Neo X cinema or Pllz heights, I can't enable DSX at all.


Yes some DSP are only valid for certain conditions as per manual diagram.
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Originally Posted by grpape View Post

After reading pg. 49 (concerning prioritizing FW/FH/SB). I think the source needs to have 9.1 in it. I too run 9.1 (FH/SB), and when I press the "sp" button it says "not available" on the screen. I could be completely wrong (most likely), but can only think of this when reading the manual. I usually run Neo X cinema or Pllz heights, I can't enable DSX at all.

This is not the case. The source does not need to have 9.1 in it, nor will it. It is not available because the other two options involve having front wides, which you don't have. If you did, then you could use this feature to assign priority.
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Hi folks,

I recently picked up a few Onkyo amp upgrades, due to HDMI card failures:

  • My 805 was replaced with an 818 trade-in
  • my ht260 was replaced with a 616 (father's day deal at ShopOnkyo / Club Oonkyo... whoo-hoo!)

While the 805 was a great amp, the 818 really delivers.

So... a quick question on firmware: Is Onkyo firmware inclusive of previous firmware upgrades?

In other words, if I load the latest USB upgrade for the 818 (06/13/2013), will it have and incorporate all previous updates, or will I need to do previous upgrade firmware releases?

Thanks.

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