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post #8431 of 9474
Anyone else having issues with hooking up their PS4 to the 818? Mine wasn't playing nice with HDMI (had garbled static on the screen). Then I plugged it into the TV directly and it worked fine. PS4 and onkyo don't seem to want to play nice. I'm going to try it again now that it's updated to firmware 1.5.....

edit- just tried with firmware 1.5 and same garbled static output. I tried multiple hdmi ports. PS3 works fine btw.
Edited by beerninja - 11/16/13 at 10:22am
post #8432 of 9474
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Originally Posted by beerninja View Post

Anyone else having issues with hooking up their PS4 to the 818? Mine wasn't playing nice with HDMI (had garbled static on the screen). Then I plugged it into the TV directly and it worked fine. PS4 and onkyo don't seem to want to play nice. I'm going to try it again now that it's updated to firmware 1.5.....

edit- just tried with firmware 1.5 and same garbled static output. I tried multiple hdmi ports. PS3 works fine btw.

Hi beerninja, try setting PS4 Deep Color Output option to "off" found Sound and Screen Settings.
post #8433 of 9474
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi beerninja, try setting PS4 Deep Color Output option to "off" found Sound and Screen Settings.

Unfortunately there is no such option on PS4 frown.gif Oly RGB range "limited" or "full". I tried both an I still get static gabled screen. I almost updated to the latest 818 firmware (the October one) and same problem. I guess I'll contact Onkyo tech support...
post #8434 of 9474
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Originally Posted by beerninja View Post

Unfortunately there is no such option on PS4 frown.gif Oly RGB range "limited" or "full". I tried both an I still get static gabled screen. I almost updated to the latest 818 firmware (the October one) and same problem. I guess I'll contact Onkyo tech support...

Double check the HDMI cable connection at the PS4. Make sure the HDMI cable is completely plugged into the port flushed. It the HDMI cable is hanging out some then possible the pin got bent, inspection the port closely with a flash light.
post #8435 of 9474
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post
 
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Originally Posted by beerninja View Post

Unfortunately there is no such option on PS4 frown.gif Oly RGB range "limited" or "full". I tried both an I still get static gabled screen. I almost updated to the latest 818 firmware (the October one) and same problem. I guess I'll contact Onkyo tech support...

Double check the HDMI cable connection at the PS4. Make sure the HDMI cable is completely plugged into the port flushed. It the HDMI cable is hanging out some then possible the pin got bent, inspection the port closely with a flash light.

 

Good call. I recently had a problem that took me ages to trace. Turned out that a heavy HDMI cable had been 'hanging' off the HDMI port and had damaged it somehow so that I only got a good connection when I lifted the HDMI connector, which re-established the connection. That port is now pretty much useless because of that. I normally use port saver cables but I have never gotten around to it on that input.

post #8436 of 9474
Yay after 4 hours I finally fixed it. I had to hold down the PS4 power button for 7 seconds to enter safe mode, then choose "change resolution" and it boots it in 480p and then allows me to manually set my resolution to 1080i. I guess not many people experience this problems because I'm one of the last few die hard CRT users.
post #8437 of 9474
I have my ps4 hooked up to my 818, and I have both RGB range and YPB/Cb pr/cr set to automatic, and it sounds really clear. My issue is, on the PS3, I had the audio output set to bitstream rather than PCM, so when I'd play a movie that is encoded in DTS HD or DOLBY HD, it would display on the receiver. On the PS4, the options are Linear PCM, Bitstream Dolby, or Bitstream DTS. None of these options are displaying the dts hd on my receiver. When it's set on PCM, everything says multi channel, and when it's set on either bit stream dts or Dolby, is the source is analog, it will either say DTS or Dolby respectively. However, if the source is HD, it still says multichannel. Why is this, and what is the correct setting on the PS4?
post #8438 of 9474
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Originally Posted by bkreger View Post

IMy issue is, on the PS3, I had the audio output set to bitstream rather than PCM, so when I'd play a movie that is encoded in DTS HD or DOLBY HD, it would display on the receiver. On the PS4, the options are Linear PCM, Bitstream Dolby, or Bitstream DTS. None of these options are displaying the dts hd on my receiver. When it's set on PCM, everything says multi channel, and when it's set on either bit stream dts or Dolby, is the source is analog, it will either say DTS or Dolby respectively. However, if the source is HD, it still says multichannel. Why is this, and what is the correct setting on the PS4?

Hi bkreger, when playing a movie press the "option" on the controller and under "audio format" select Bitstream.
post #8439 of 9474
Thanks so much! That worked perfectly.
post #8440 of 9474
Well, no luck trying to get Audyssey to work. Tried the different speaker, reset to factory defaults / left unplugged a bunch of times again, and updated the firmware.

Hopefully I can figure something out, but for tonight I think I'm just going to stop letting it get in the way of enjoying my new PS4.

EDIT: Well... this thing clearly has other issues. Randomly shut off while I was playing Resogun, and now when I press the power button it'll display the volume information very briefly and then shut off again.
Edited by Shocked - 11/17/13 at 1:15pm
post #8441 of 9474
Hey guys, I'm moving to a new apartment in 2 weeks and I'm going to setup my sound system differently due to a smaller listening area, so as u all know I have a definitive tech 5.1 system(bp8 fronts, clr2002 center and 2 bp2x surrounds) , I have an SVS pb12 sub and My receiver is the Onkyo nr818 .

Now, in the new place I will only set up my front bp8's and the center clr2002 with the Onkyo 818, I'm going to store the SVS pb12 and the surrounds in storage due to WAF and smaller place . Yeah.. Sucks I won't have a sub for now but oh we'll.. How should I setup my Onkyo 818 in terms of hz? Should I run the front bp8's and clr2002 at full bandwidth? Or should I set them at 40hz? I know I should obviously set the subwoofer to none as well as surrounds to none but what else do I need to do to set it the best possible way?

Thanks
post #8442 of 9474
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Hey guys, I'm moving to a new apartment in 2 weeks and I'm going to setup my sound system differently due to a smaller listening area, so as u all know I have a definitive tech 5.1 system(bp8 fronts, clr2002 center and 2 bp2x surrounds) , I have an SVS pb12 sub and My receiver is the Onkyo nr818 .

Now, in the new place I will only set up my front bp8's and the center clr2002 with the Onkyo 818, I'm going to store the SVS pb12 and the surrounds in storage due to WAF and smaller place . Yeah.. Sucks I won't have a sub for now but oh we'll.. How should I setup my Onkyo 818 in terms of hz? Should I run the front bp8's and clr2002 at full bandwidth? Or should I set them at 40hz? I know I should obviously set the subwoofer to none as well as surrounds to none but what else do I need to do to set it the best possible way?

Thanks

After running an Audyssey calibration, all should be revealed.
post #8443 of 9474
I'm surprised there is still so much traffic here with the new models out. I guess the only new model out that is a worthy upgrade is the 929. Anyways, I'm thinking of picking this unit up to replace my 808. How effective is the XT32?
post #8444 of 9474
Wow, so I had the same issue as BeerNinja. The audio was not working properly from the PS4. I had to change the resolution to 1080i even though my TV can output 1080p. Not exactly sure what's up with the TX-NR818 and the PS4 as my PS3 had no problems. Hell, I even plugged the PS4 into game1 which the PS3 was previously on.
post #8445 of 9474
Is it possible to setup the 818 without a remote?
post #8446 of 9474
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Originally Posted by coli View Post

Is it possible to setup the 818 without a remote?

I would think so, using the controls under the front flap. Or else using Oremote on iOS I think.
post #8447 of 9474
Hi;

I am looking to upgrade from my NR709 to either the NR818 or the newer NR929? I do not see much difference other than the wireless BT & LAN. The Power Output is the same. Both has MultEQ XT32. And I think I see is the 4K Video
Upscaling with Qdeo is also available on both. The only major difference is the the fact that the 919 is 9.2 VS 7.2 on the 818. I do not need 9.2 so I am fine with that. And obviously the huge price gap... am I missing anything else?? Which one should I go with? Please HELP. Thanks!! confused.gif
post #8448 of 9474
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Originally Posted by adept777 View Post

Hi;

I am looking to upgrade from my NR709 to either the NR818 or the newer NR929? I do not see much difference other than the wireless BT & LAN. The Power Output is the same. Both has MultEQ XT32. And I think I see is the 4K Video
Upscaling with Qdeo is also available on both. The only major difference is the the fact that the 919 is 9.2 VS 7.2 on the 818. I do not need 9.2 so I am fine with that. And obviously the huge price gap... am I missing anything else?? Which one should I go with? Please HELP. Thanks!! confused.gif

To me the biggest differences are:

1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

For me those differences don't mean enough to me now. But if you plan on keeping this receiver for 5+ years they might mean enough for you to spend the extra money. I have the 818 and love it! Hope this helped.smile.gif
post #8449 of 9474
I'm looking to replace my nearly 8 yr old Yamaha HTR5990 and I'm pretty much sold on the Onkyo TX-NR818. It has the things that are important to me....ample power, XT32, quality 1080p upscaling, and dual HDMI outputs. Nothing comes close that I have found at $699. I do have a couple of questions....

Some have commented about reliability of Onkyo receivers. How is the reputation of the 818 specifically?

Can someone please confirm how hot the 818 runs? My Yamaha 5990 gets hot as hell and I would love to put the new receiver in the cabinet instead of on the shelf......Is there a fan (or dual fans)....does it have large heat sinks?
post #8450 of 9474
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Originally Posted by realralfy View Post

I'm looking to replace my nearly 8 yr old Yamaha HTR5990 and I'm pretty much sold on the Onkyo TX-NR818. It has the things that are important to me....ample power, XT32, quality 1080p upscaling, and dual HDMI outputs. Nothing comes close that I have found at $699. I do have a couple of questions....

Some have commented about reliability of Onkyo receivers. How is the reputation of the 818 specifically?

Can someone please confirm how hot the 818 runs? My Yamaha 5990 gets hot as hell and I would love to put the new receiver in the cabinet instead of on the shelf......Is there a fan (or dual fans)....does it have large heat sinks?

Reliability is yet to be determined...there have been a few cases here, that suggest the HDMI failure Onkyo has been plagued with, may not have completely run it's course. There have also been a few sporadic issues here and there that have not been fleshed out. So far, so good from my experience...coming from a problem-plagued 807.

The 818 runs much cooler than my previous 807. There are fans onboard, that will only kick in when the temp range is triggered. I have not experienced it. Some are placing PC fans on the top of the nit to either pull hot air out, or push cool air in. YMMV
post #8451 of 9474
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Originally Posted by kevin g. View Post

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Originally Posted by realralfy View Post

I'm looking to replace my nearly 8 yr old Yamaha HTR5990 and I'm pretty much sold on the Onkyo TX-NR818. It has the things that are important to me....ample power, XT32, quality 1080p upscaling, and dual HDMI outputs. Nothing comes close that I have found at $699. I do have a couple of questions....

Some have commented about reliability of Onkyo receivers. How is the reputation of the 818 specifically?

Can someone please confirm how hot the 818 runs? My Yamaha 5990 gets hot as hell and I would love to put the new receiver in the cabinet instead of on the shelf......Is there a fan (or dual fans)....does it have large heat sinks?

Reliability is yet to be determined...there have been a few cases here, that suggest the HDMI failure Onkyo has been plagued with, may not have completely run it's course. There have also been a few sporadic issues here and there that have not been fleshed out. So far, so good from my experience...coming from a problem-plagued 807.

The 818 runs much cooler than my previous 807. There are fans onboard, that will only kick in when the temp range is triggered. I have not experienced it. Some are placing PC fans on the top of the nit to either pull hot air out, or push cool air in. YMMV

I have a 818 that replaced my 805. My 805 ran extremely hot. The 818 does not. If you put a fan on the unit only use it as a pull design. Pushing air in also pushes in dust and debris. And it doesn't cool the unit very well at all. All PC cooling fan companies will tell you this also.
post #8452 of 9474
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

To me the biggest differences are:

1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

For me those differences don't mean enough to me now. But if you plan on keeping this receiver for 5+ years they might mean enough for you to spend the extra money. I have the 818 and love it! Hope this helped.smile.gif

Thank you migraine24-7!!! I appreciate your input, however I have a few more questions. When you say HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return as a difference - what do you mean? I ask cause both the 929 and the 818 have 3D HDMI with deep color and audio. Am I wrong? Ami I missing something??
Second you said the same thing for 4K pass thru - I thought the 929 also has the 4K?

I do concur that the 929 has the Wifi and BT built in as well as the 9.2 and the extra HDMI. But is that all? Can anyone else please shed some light??? Thanks!!
post #8453 of 9474
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Originally Posted by adept777 View Post

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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

To me the biggest differences are:

1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

For me those differences don't mean enough to me now. But if you plan on keeping this receiver for 5+ years they might mean enough for you to spend the extra money. I have the 818 and love it! Hope this helped.smile.gif

Thank you migraine24-7!!! I appreciate your input, however I have a few more questions. When you say HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return as a difference - what do you mean? I ask cause both the 929 and the 818 have 3D HDMI with deep color and audio. Am I wrong? Ami I missing something??
Second you said the same thing for 4K pass thru - I thought the 929 also has the 4K?

I do concur that the 929 has the Wifi and BT built in as well as the 9.2 and the extra HDMI. But is that all? Can anyone else please shed some light??? Thanks!!

Go to Onkyo website. Under products click on receivers. Then compare the 929 and 818. According to that comparison the 818 doesn't have:
1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

It does have 4K not 4K pass thru. The 818 product page says it supports 3D and Audio Return Channel. So Onkyo has differing specs on their website. Not sure this helped much.
post #8454 of 9474
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Go to Onkyo website. Under products click on receivers. Then compare the 929 and 818. According to that comparison the 818 doesn't have:
1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

It does have 4K not 4K pass thru. The 818 product page says it supports 3D and Audio Return Channel. So Onkyo has differing specs on their website. Not sure this helped much.

Sorry to be a pain but can you maybe educate me on what's the difference between 4K and 4K pass thru??
post #8455 of 9474
4K = will upscale to 4K but not able to pass through a 4K signal from a 4K source
4K Pass through = will pass through a 4K signal from a 4K source
post #8456 of 9474
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Go to Onkyo website. Under products click on receivers. Then compare the 929 and 818. According to that comparison the 818 doesn't have:
1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

It does have 4K not 4K pass thru. The 818 product page says it supports 3D and Audio Return Channel. So Onkyo has differing specs on their website. Not sure this helped much.

According to the 818 online manual, page 7, under features>processing;

HDMI (Audio Return Channel, 3D, DeepColor,
x.v.Color, Lip Sync, DTS-HD Master Audio, DTS-HD
High Resolution Audio, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital
Plus, DSD and Multi-CH PCM)

I know it has Deep Color because I have turned it on/off on occasions.
post #8457 of 9474
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Go to Onkyo website. Under products click on receivers. Then compare the 929 and 818. According to that comparison the 818 doesn't have:
1 more HDMI input
HDMI support for 3D, deep color and audio return
9.2
4k pass thru
Wifi and Bluetooth built in

It does have 4K not 4K pass thru. The 818 product page says it supports 3D and Audio Return Channel. So Onkyo has differing specs on their website. Not sure this helped much.

According to the 818 online manual, page 7, under features>processing;

HDMI (Audio Return Channel, 3D, DeepColor,
x.v.Color, Lip Sync, DTS-HD Master Audio, DTS-HD
High Resolution Audio, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital
Plus, DSD and Multi-CH PCM)

I know it has Deep Color because I have turned it on/off on occasions.

I agree. And the specs page for the 818 on Onkyo website says so also. But if you compare the 818 and the 929 it doesn't check mark those features for the 818. It's very confusing for someone who is trying to decide between the two.

Would you do a compare on Onkyo's website and let me know if you get the same? Thanks
post #8458 of 9474
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I agree. And the specs page for the 818 on Onkyo website says so also. But if you compare the 818 and the 929 it doesn't check mark those features for the 818. It's very confusing for someone who is trying to decide between the two.

Would you do a compare on Onkyo's website and let me know if you get the same? Thanks

Hi,

In the specs for the 818 it says this; HDMI Version----V1.4a (supports 3D video and Audio Return Channel) .
No mention of DeepColor, but as I pointed out, it is in the manual.

The Onkyo EU site for the 818; HDMI Support for 3D, Audio Return Channel, DeepColor™, x.v.Color™, LipSync, Dolby® TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio™, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD, Multichannel PCM, and CEC


I did use the 'compare' feature for the two and you're correct, it's not checked on the 818. Yes, they can be very confusing at times or just plain sloppy.
post #8459 of 9474
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I agree. And the specs page for the 818 on Onkyo website says so also. But if you compare the 818 and the 929 it doesn't check mark those features for the 818. It's very confusing for someone who is trying to decide between the two.

Would you do a compare on Onkyo's website and let me know if you get the same? Thanks

Get the 929 a little more future proof with the 4K stuff.
post #8460 of 9474
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

Get the 929 a little more future proof with the 4K stuff.
Well technically, to future proof you'd want HDMI 2 which the 929 lacks smile.gif
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