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post #421 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

It's not a remote issue it's the receiver I will look more into this only discovered the error this morning before work.

I have my m3d550kd setup using ARC since my Samsung Soundbar only has 1 HDMI input. I have noticed some audio/video sync issues when watching HD programming through DirecTV. Any ideas why this would happen? I now only use the ARC technology for my PS3 and the smartv functions and have since hooked the DirecTV box up through a digital optical which has no sync issues.

Thanks,
Dan
post #422 of 687
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Originally Posted by danyem1 View Post

I have my m3d550kd setup using ARC since my Samsung Soundbar only has 1 HDMI input. I have noticed some audio/video sync issues when watching HD programming through DirecTV. Any ideas why this would happen? I now only use the ARC technology for my PS3 and the smartv functions and have since hooked the DirecTV box up through a digital optical which has no sync issues.
Thanks,
Dan

One of the problems in home theater is the issue of Audio Video Synchronization. What happens is that sometimes you may notice that the audio soundtrack is slightly ahead of the video image when watching a high definition cable/satellite program or upscaled DVD/Blu-ray Disc video on an HDTV. This is especially noticeable on close-up images of people speaking. It is almost as if you are watching a dubbed foreign movie.

The reason this occurs is that audio can be processed a lot faster than the video, especially high definition video. High definition video takes up a lot space and takes longer to process than even the new high definition audio formats or standard resolution video signals.

As a result, when you have an HDTV or home theater receiver that does a lot of video processing to the incoming signal (such as signals that are upscaled from standard resolution to 720p, 1080i, or 1080p), then the audio and video can become out of synch, with the audio arriving before the video.

The Solution: Audio Video Synch Correction Adjustment Tools

To solve this problem, there is a tool available in the operating menu on many newer HDTVs and home theater receivers, referred to as either "Audio Synch", "Audio Delay", or "Lip Synch".

Regardless of the terminology used, what these features all have in common are settings that "slow down" or delay the arrival of the audio signal so that image on the screen and audio soundtrack match. The settings offered usually range from 10ms to 100ms and sometimes up to 240 ms (milliseconds). Although this seems miniscule in terms of time, a 100ms change between the timing of the audio and video can be very noticeable.

Also, if you are using a home theater receiver that features audio processing via HDMI connection, you may have the option to set this function so that AV synch can be corrected automatically or manually. If you have a home theater or HDTV that provides this choice, try both options and see which one gives you the most consistent correction result.
post #423 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

Worked like a charm. I wish it was as easy as ARC On/Off but now that I have it working I don't mind it but it should be outlined in the PDF booklet.

I still have not had a chance to play around with this, but I am now wondering if I am using a HDMI v1.4 cable, which is required for ARC. Hmmmm....
post #424 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I still have not had a chance to play around with this, but I am now wondering if I am using a HDMI v1.4 cable, which is required for ARC. Hmmmm....

The HDMI v1.4 cable is a myth. All you need is high speed HDMI cables. If you are able to view 3D with the cables you can do ARC. It does take some trial and error. Please note that you must set up your receiver prior to setting up the TV for ARC.
Edited by PlayNice - 11/29/12 at 10:57am
post #425 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I still have not had a chance to play around with this, but I am now wondering if I am using a HDMI v1.4 cable, which is required for ARC. Hmmmm....

Well, so much for that theory. I just found this on HDMI.org:

Q: Will I need a new cable to support Audio Return Channel functionality?
A: No. Audio Return Channel -enabled devices can be connected via all the existing categories of HDMI cables.
post #426 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

The HDMI v1.4 cable is a myth. All you need is high speed HDMI cables. If you are able to view 3D with the cables you can do ARC. It does take some trial and error. Please note that you must Det up your receiver prior to setting up the TV for ARC.

Thanks. Seems we posted at the same time. I have not given up by any stretch and will try again this weekend.
post #427 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I still have not had a chance to play around with this, but I am now wondering if I am using a HDMI v1.4 cable, which is required for ARC. Hmmmm....

No such thing as an HDMI 1.4 cable. The 1.4 is a hardware spec, not a cable spec. Any Certified High Speed HDMI Cable has the capacity, among other things, to handle ARC. Certified is the operative word. It means that the cable meets, and is tested for, all of the specs required to be labeled as "High Speed HDMI", and the cable is certified to meet those standards for the length of the cable as well.

Oops. Looks like I too posted at the same time. Oh well.
post #428 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

One thing to note now my receiver defaults to TV/CD when I power off and turn it back on. I rarely watch the TV/CD input and this is a issue I must fix. Does yours do such as well? Let me know after you get it all set and working.

I got my ARC working and yes, my Onkyo AVR defaults to TV/CD when powered on. I have resolved that issue though by adding some commands to the end of my "Watch TV" activity on my Logitech Harmony remote in this order:

  1. Two (separate) 10 second delays
  2. Switch input to Cable/SAT

I find that the two 10 sec delays is just enough time to wait and switch back to the Cable/Sat input on the AVR after the AVR has defaulted to TV/CD upon power on. Kind of kludgy but it works and allows me to keep the options set up needed for the ARC to work.
post #429 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I got my ARC working and yes, my Onkyo AVR defaults to TV/CD when powered on. I have resolved that issue though by adding some commands to the end of my "Watch TV" activity on my Logitech Harmony remote in this order:
  1. Two (separate) 10 second delays
  2. Switch input to Cable/SAT
I find that the two 10 sec delays is just enough time to wait and switch back to the Cable/Sat input on the AVR after the AVR has defaulted to TV/CD upon power on. Kind of kludgy but it works and allows me to keep the options set up needed for the ARC to work.

Thanks I will try that, I disabled my ARC cause it was making me upset the auto default to TV/CD. I will have to set it up for all my inputs cause I have a lot and do not want it to happen again.. Which menu do you go into to change the delay on the Harmony? Are you using the downloaded software for Harmony or the website?
post #430 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

Thanks I will try that, I disabled my ARC cause it was making me upset the auto default to TV/CD. I will have to set it up for all my inputs cause I have a lot and do not want it to happen again.. Which menu do you go into to change the delay on the Harmony? Are you using the downloaded software for Harmony or the website?

I'm using the download Harmony software. It was not a matter of adjusting a delay, rather I added those actions to the "Watch TV" activity. Here is where I learned how to do that:

http://blog.logitech.com/2010/03/30/harmony-tips-and-tricks-customizing-your-remote-to-perform-actions-at-the-start-or-end-of-an-activity/
post #431 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I'm using the download Harmony software. It was not a matter of adjusting a delay, rather I added those actions to the "Watch TV" activity. Here is where I learned how to do that:
http://blog.logitech.com/2010/03/30/harmony-tips-and-tricks-customizing-your-remote-to-perform-actions-at-the-start-or-end-of-an-activity/

Thanks for the link.
post #432 of 687
There is also some really good help on the Harmony remotes in the Remote Control Area forum.
post #433 of 687
So I recently got this TV and was pretty happy with it. That was until I saw my friends Samsung ES8000. His screen is really uniform and there isnt any flash lighting at all. When I got home I realized that whenever my screen is black and there is white writing or light, you get bad flash lighting from the side of the screen. With the dimming you can see some areas go on and off but its pretty bad, especially when compared to my friends Samsung which I didnt see at all, even when we sat in the dark and watched.

So my question is, is that flash lighting common on this set or is my TV just bad? I like almost everything else on this Vizio and the price was great, I just had seeing the flash light from the sides in dark scenes.
post #434 of 687
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Originally Posted by zachzama View Post

So I recently got this TV and was pretty happy with it. That was until I saw my friends Samsung ES8000. His screen is really uniform and there isnt any flash lighting at all. When I got home I realized that whenever my screen is black and there is white writing or light, you get bad flash lighting from the side of the screen. With the dimming you can see some areas go on and off but its pretty bad, especially when compared to my friends Samsung which I didnt see at all, even when we sat in the dark and watched.
So my question is, is that flash lighting common on this set or is my TV just bad? I like almost everything else on this Vizio and the price was great, I just had seeing the flash light from the sides in dark scenes.

I think it is common to this set. Personally, I can live with it especially given the price I paid for the Vizio vs. what the Samsung costs. For $1100, while not perfect, the Vizio has a lot to offer.
post #435 of 687
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

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Originally Posted by zachzama View Post

So I recently got this TV and was pretty happy with it. That was until I saw my friends Samsung ES8000. His screen is really uniform and there isnt any flash lighting at all. When I got home I realized that whenever my screen is black and there is white writing or light, you get bad flash lighting from the side of the screen. With the dimming you can see some areas go on and off but its pretty bad, especially when compared to my friends Samsung which I didnt see at all, even when we sat in the dark and watched.
So my question is, is that flash lighting common on this set or is my TV just bad? I like almost everything else on this Vizio and the price was great, I just had seeing the flash light from the sides in dark scenes.

I think it is common to this set. Personally, I can live with it especially given the price I paid for the Vizio vs. what the Samsung costs. For $1100, while not perfect, the Vizio has a lot to offer.

I see a ton of this flash or bleedthrough on my vizio as well. I was hoping the tv had really good blacks and it does in the picture area. In the letterbox area you see a lot of it. Isn't the samsung 8000 like 2500 or more?
post #436 of 687
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Originally Posted by joepaiii View Post

I see a ton of this flash or bleedthrough on my vizio as well. I was hoping the tv had really good blacks and it does in the picture area. In the letterbox area you see a lot of it. Isn't the samsung 8000 like 2500 or more?

Yes. $2500 on Amazon.
post #437 of 687
Totally agree tvs that are c
vastly different in price. However my friend got his for 1600 a best buy so that made me way jealous. But I didn't realize the vizio had such bad flash lighting. With the hyped up black levels they do get washed out by the flash lighting. So I'm just glad I'm not the only one and it's common.
post #438 of 687
I just got this tv yesterday and love it. However when I attached my pc via dvi/hdmi I lose the ability to adjust the advanced picture settings. It seems as though there is a pre set default picture mode for PCs and I can't seem to figure out if there is a way around it. Whenever I play a 3D game on my PC then I can go into the option and mess around but not otherwise. I only get contrast and brightness settings and I was hoping to use motion smoothing and some other post processing features on my PC games.

Does anyone know about anything like this? The only thing I could find was a Samsung user who had a similar problem and when they put it in the TV's native resolution it would let them tweak it. However both my PC and TV default to 1080/1920 I believe... I just don't understand why these options aren't available for PCs, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Any help or info is appreciated tech gurus!
post #439 of 687
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Originally Posted by Gaffi View Post

I just got this tv yesterday and love it. However when I attached my pc via dvi/hdmi I lose the ability to adjust the advanced picture settings. It seems as though there is a pre set default picture mode for PCs and I can't seem to figure out if there is a way around it. Whenever I play a 3D game on my PC then I can go into the option and mess around but not otherwise. I only get contrast and brightness settings and I was hoping to use motion smoothing and some other post processing features on my PC games.
Does anyone know about anything like this? The only thing I could find was a Samsung user who had a similar problem and when they put it in the TV's native resolution it would let them tweak it. However both my PC and TV default to 1080/1920 I believe... I just don't understand why these options aren't available for PCs, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Any help or info is appreciated tech gurus!

This set as with many newer advanced sets allows for two-way communication with setup devices. The problem you are experiencing is due to this feature. You will most likely have to turn this feature off in your PC settings (options can usually be in your graphics card settings menu). I cannot lend more advice as I am an Apple user and have mine hooked up to a Mac Mini 2011 but I have seen this with Xbox 360’s.
post #440 of 687
Okay that makes sense but I don't see anyway to change it on my nvidia 260 gtx. I can't seem to find anything on google either. Has anyone had to do anything similar for any brand of tv or with an nvidia card on their pc? Thanks for the help so far I believe it is atleast possible to do now.

Apparently it may have something to do with EDID which is how the graphics card interacts with a monitor/tv...
Edited by Gaffi - 12/6/12 at 4:02pm
post #441 of 687
Has one had this issue with any tv or pc? I think it's got to be an option on the PC's side unless there is a hidden option in the Vizio I have stepped over multiple times. I just don't understand why the TV would try to limit the color and picture options. I just want the post processing and smoothing over the image of what my pc is outputting. There shouldn't be any interference or anything...
post #442 of 687
Hey guys from some reason I can't get the keyboard on my KD550 to work, if use it for netflix to search a movie or type a network name for wifi, it doesn't type anything, I tried to sync the remote and all but still not working, did i miss something?

Thanks!
post #443 of 687
I ordered this tv not to long ago and should be receiving it soon. I wish I saw this post sooner lol. My question is how is this tv on gaming and bluray movies and 3D?
post #444 of 687
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Originally Posted by spawn1980 View Post

I ordered this tv not to long ago and should be receiving it soon. I wish I saw this post sooner lol. My question is how is this tv on gaming and bluray movies and 3D?

Great on all accounts, I think you will enjoy this set.
post #445 of 687
I'M pretty upset!! I got the tv today but the seller didn't send me the remote and glasses!!!!!! and there Close now... I have a universal remote but that only works the volume,input and power. I want to check the settings and apps but I can't maneuver into it and select it. Now I have to wait til Monday to contact them :'(.
post #446 of 687
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Originally Posted by spawn1980 View Post

I'M pretty upset!! I got the tv today but the seller didn't send me the remote and glasses!!!!!! and there Close now... I have a universal remote but that only works the volume,input and power. I want to check the settings and apps but I can't maneuver into it and select it. Now I have to wait til Monday to contact them :'(.

Was it new or used? That's foul... Make sure they give you the Bluetooth slide out remote not the RF flipper remote. And as for the glasses the ones included with the set are not as good as RealD 3D ones so if the happen to give you RealD glasses consider it an upgrade.
post #447 of 687
It was a Refurbish set. What sucks even more everything is over sized like it's on zoom and I can't change the re size without the remote. I really wish there was a vizio android remote app.
post #448 of 687
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Originally Posted by spawn1980 View Post

It was a Refurbish set. What sucks even more everything is over sized like it's on zoom and I can't change the re size without the remote. I really wish there was a vizio android remote app.

You can change everything with the bottoms on the side of the panel
post #449 of 687
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

You can change everything with the bottoms on the side of the panel
I can get into the menu and move around but I can't select anything.
post #450 of 687
Where did you buy the tv?
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