Bitstream problem - Page 2

Why are you using the HDMI detective?

Is the detective between the receiver and the TV? I have mine between the PC and the receiver, and used the receiver to program it. I have the same receiver and am using an Intel i3 with the onboard graphics.

I thought the hdmi detective was supposed to fix this?

Glad to hear it worked.

Glad you got it.

So you use the detective to keep 1920x1080 from your HTPC to your AVR?

This happens to me maybe once in every couple weeks and the fix is to exit and re-enter MB/WMC which resolves it. My HTPC is on 24/7 but my AVR isn't. Maybe I'll get one but first I'll try the $12 monoprice HDMI signal booster I have and see how that performs.

built my first htpc. just starting out with computer audio video.
im running w7, intel i5 processer, high end graphics card and just bought an auzen x-fi hometheatre hd, running to an onkyo htrc 270. cant decide weather to run multichannel pcm to my receiver with intel display audio sound settings and bypass the soundcard compleatly, or actuall use the soundcard multichannel setting. either way i can still control volume on my pc. which i shouldnt be able to do. its only untill i force dd/dts encoding with the x-fi that i can bypass volume control on the pc. 4 days of trying different ****. if you have a good receiver do you really need the sound card. ive been reading that pcm is better than bitstream anyways

Stick around. You will discover even more things that are overrated.

There is a lot of misinformation out there.

When a soundcard decodes the signal, it will downconvert the signal unless your htpc has a protected audio path.

If your htpc has a protected audio path, it can decode DTS-HD and TrueHD to pcm without downsampling. When a receiver decodes DTS-HD or TrueHD, it is also converting the stream to uncompressed pcm; therefore, it makes no difference where the conversion to pcm takes place, it will sound the same.

******. powerdvd12 sends the audio signal uncompressed to my onkyo receiver, but it did that before I spent 200 on the x-fi. im still trying to figure out how to get dts-ma or dolby digital true hd to show up on my avr display. all i get is dts or dd. maybe because i only run 5.1? im gonna hook up my stand alone blue ray player and bitstream to my avr and see if it shows dts ma or true hd. if not then ill have to keep researching

You will only get the Dolby True HD and DTS-MA to light up if you run HDMI from PC to Receiver.

yup all wired up hdmi is all i use. sound settings are hdmi out digital audio out of my x-fi but only shows dd and wma pro audio under supported formats. but when i play dts movies dts shows up on my receiver but not dts ma. stumped

What is the bitrate of the pcm signal being sent to your receiver without the x-fi? If it's not at least 48/24, your software and/or is downconverting.

If your system is able to send uncompressed audio that is at least 48/24, you should be able to send DTS-HD and TrueHD.

if I bypass the x-fi I get 192 kHz multichannel all day using intel display audio settings but the sound jack info is stereo format. also when i use power dvd i can only choose 6 speaker audio, no dts or dd option and it have volume control on my pc still. which i shouldnt. 1 thing i noticed is that when im using the x-fi, if i choose display info while im watching blu rays on power dvd it shows dts-ma on the computer but not on the receiver. so......... i guess when it shows dts or dd on the receiver its not correct info. the correct info is in power dvd itself. still cant get pwrdvd to show dd true hd, shows ac3 instead. regardless my panasonis bluray player provides better bitstream and way better picture. ill use pwr dvd for mkv files and movie torrents only

When playing a movie with DTS-HD converted to pcm, your receiver's display says 192 khz? I'm not sure how that can be unless you are upsampling the audio since a majority of the tracks are 48/24. I think there are a few concert blu-rays that have 96/24 and 194/24 streams.

PowerDVD states that the track is DTS-HD MA, not what is being output to your receiver. If your receiver doesn't light up with DTS-HD or TrueHD, that would lead me to believe you are unable to bitstream HD audio to your receiver.

Which receiver are you using?

onkyo htrc 270. just found out that in order to get proper audio signal i need to run dvi to hdmi externally to the soundcard and then hdmi to receiver from soundcard. guess what... my onkyo doesnt process dvi! therefore this setup will not work! back to the store it will go. i wish i could go somewhere to get a htpc built that works. that what i get for not researching first. back to the drawing board. this is my setup as of right now. picking up my rear surrounds this week.
Panasonic Viera TC-P65VT25, Onkyo HT-RC 270, polk audio LsIM series 5.1 setup and Psw505, HTPC intel core i5-2400S and intel graphics 2000, Win7 64, auzen x-fi hometheatre hd sound card, 2TB hard drive, Lg bluray player, Wii, Xbox 360

I'm not sure about the X-Fi but, with the Asus HDAV, you run a dvi/hdmi cable from the video card to the Asus. Then you run a hdmi cable from the Asus to the receiver. Sounds to me like the X-Fi works the same way.

There should be no need to connect the htpc to your Onkyo using dvi.

im using a dvi to hdmi from my motherboard to sound card than hdmi out to my receiver

This is how I do it with my Asus HDAV card and my receiver lights up with DTS-HD MA and TrueHD according to the Blu-ray source.

I'm not sure why your Onkyo is not receiving HD audio.

Are you using the dvi to hdmi cable that came with the X-fi?

yup! even can with a sweet digital optical and hdmi 1.3. long story short i took the pc back to where i had it built and had the head tech look at it. he actually laughed out loud when he seen the specs and told me to leave it with them. he was going to "deal with this". lol. hes gonna get back to me tomorrow. told me that theres no reason i should have any audio or video problems with a 1500 dollar build! i agree. sooooooooooooo with that being said, what would you guys do with 1500 dollar build? maybe i should start a new thread? haha

how do i start a thread on here? or can i?

surroundsounder I think your i5 cpu is able to bitstream Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio, you said you had high end sound card, that alone also is probably able to do it. Not sure you ever needed the x fi in the first place.

I like few others used Asus hdav 1.3 for many years now. X Fi came so late to the party it was almost a dead product before it released. People waited forever for that thing.

Anyway yea you run dvi to hdmi into sound card and hdmi out sound card to receiver like you say you're doing. One thing I came across lately is my video card 680 wouldn't bitstream at all using vista 64 , no matter what I tried the lossless audio formats wouldn't show up . Soon as I installed win 7 64 bit it bitstreamed fine and I had no need for asus hdav 1.3 any longer.

Another thing to check is make sure power dvd is set to actually send it. I use TMT 5 but it has to be set to HDMI audio. But since you're saying windows isn't seeing the pc as even having the ability as its not listed in the audio panel. Then some driver is off I'd say.

Can't help more I forgot the X Fi even existed and it took me forever to realize that's what you were using. You'll figure it out though.

What's the "hi-end" graphics cards you said you had? Because almost every > $50 video card will have HDMI and EASILY bitstream DTS-MA/Dolby TrueHD....