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post #211 of 422
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

You should also be aware that by putting this onto DVD removes the lossless HD audio.

Not correct...

You can actually have HD audio and video onto a DVD... not all players might be able to play it correctly but most will. It needs to be authored as an AVCHD disc, and of course you'll be restricted to 3 or 4 clips (depending on their size) per disc onto a regular DVD, but doable on all respects.
post #212 of 422
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

You should also be aware that by putting this onto DVD removes the lossless HD audio.
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

Not correct...

You can actually have HD audio and video onto a DVD... not all players might be able to play it correctly but most will. It needs to be authored as an AVCHD disc, and of course you'll be restricted to 3 or 4 clips (depending on their size) per disc onto a regular DVD, but doable on all respects.
I don't have experience in writing DVD's but I really want to learn how to, just because you guy's made these awesome discs!!
something I should know to write lossless DVD audio besides authoring it as an AVCHD disc? I presume multi AVCHD can do all that (name gives it away I guess)
Sorry for the stupid questions, just don't know a lot about DVD's. :-s
post #213 of 422
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by art West-VL. View Post

I don't have experience in writing DVD's but I really want to learn how to, just because you guy's made these awesome discs!!

Except that the reason they were made was for Blu-Ray.
post #214 of 422

No, they were made to demonstrate the awesome bass (hopefully) of a home theater. For that matter, you can play the m2ts files individually on an HTPC. The BD format is a convenience for people with a BD burner (or a friend with a BD burner).

So keep 'em coming!

Michael

post #215 of 422
For those of you using xbmc or other programs to index the disc image in their media library, I created a moviedb profile for this title to allow for easy scraping.

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/177279-the-ultimate-bass-demo-disc

It needs some cover art and fan art though. Anyone want to create some cover art ?
post #216 of 422
I regret you respond that way.
I probably will never buy a bluray player/writer, they will be surpassed pretty soon. LastButNotLeast said it: "HTPC"
I just can't justify the cost of bluray players, writers and discs.

For me, I'm just starting of as a HT- hobbyist. I have my large TV for just a week now. Built a subwoofer a few months ago. (I started a thread here once, no response at AVS, but it's posted on two other forums)
I have a speaker measurement setup. So a lot of DIY for me and a lot of satisfaction building stuff.smile.gif
So these discs are really welcome for me to explore all the features that a HT should have.
post #217 of 422
Alright, I have wasted 3 bluray disks now trying to get this to work.

Can someone walk me through it.... Like I am a 5 year old.
post #218 of 422
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Alright, I have wasted 3 bluray disks now trying to get this to work.

Can someone walk me through it.... Like I am a 5 year old.

Dave, the problem might be that the disc, as downloaded, somehow has the file/folder structure goofed up. I'm guessing the torrent creation caused the problem. Anyway, my advice would be to:

A) Get some software that will let you play the disc back on your PC. Until it works on your PC, it's not going to work when you burn it to disc. This will let you test it before you burn
B) Get a RW (rewrittable) disc.

Once you have the disc file/format fixed (See Jindrak's post) it should very easy to burn with IMGBurn. As simple as just dragging the BDMV folder into the input window of ImgBurn. ImgBurn will recognize that it's BDMV and change all of the requisite settings for you.
post #219 of 422
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Originally Posted by art West-VL. View Post

I regret you respond that way.
I probably will never buy a bluray player/writer, they will be surpassed pretty soon. LastButNotLeast said it: "HTPC"
I just can't justify the cost of bluray players, writers and discs.

For me, I'm just starting of as a HT- hobbyist. I have my large TV for just a week now. Built a subwoofer a few months ago. (I started a thread here once, no response at AVS, but it's posted on two other forums)
I have a speaker measurement setup. So a lot of DIY for me and a lot of satisfaction building stuff.smile.gif
So these discs are really welcome for me to explore all the features that a HT should have.

Then I recommend something like a Popcorn Hour/Dune. No need for an HTPC if you're primary purpose is to playback files. Both of those media streamers will do that core functionality much better than an HTPC with easy control integration.
post #220 of 422
Some media players such as the Popcorn Hour and the WDTV Live are *very* good at playing almost anything you throw at it. XBMC is the same, except that you can scratch "almost" biggrin.gif Seriously, my WDTV Live has problems with some m2ts (not all). XBMC (and VLC for that matter) plays everything fine. The point is a bit moot since we're going to be inundated very soon by cheap Android set-top boxes. XBMC for Android is already out, but native playback is not yet available for every device. I for one will buy the first Android box under $100 that has native XBMC support. In the mean time, I just plug my laptop on my receiver if I want to use XBMC.

On another note... just tested the Pulse server room scene (never saw it before). O... M... G... I already love that demo disc biggrin.gif
post #221 of 422
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

On another note... just tested the Pulse server room scene (never saw it before). O... M... G... I already love that demo disc biggrin.gif

Apparently, that's the only part worth watching:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pulse/

post #222 of 422
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Can someone walk me through it.... Like I am a 5 year old.

I second this request. I very, very, carefully followed Jindrak's (new) instructions in post #1 and #200 and Nickbuol's in post #197 and the freshly burned disk won't play on an Oppo 93

The title screen comes up with an Avatar destruction of the hometree scene front and center, but there's no navigation or play functionality.
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/16/13 at 7:10am
post #223 of 422
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Apparently, that's the only part worth watching:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pulse/

Actually this is the case of a majority of movies with good LFE tracks in my opinion. This is why I'm really grateful for this compilation: I won't have to suffer through the whole movie to experience one minute of outstanding bass.
post #224 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

I second this request. I very, very, carefully followed Jindrak's (new) instructions in post #1 and Nickbuol's in post #197 and the freshly burned disk won't play on an Oppo 93

The title screen comes up with an Avatar destruction of the hometree scene front and center, but there's no navigation or play functionality.

In the folders/files I am dragging into ImgBurn my top level is not AVCHD and there is no HDAVCTN or Certificate or any of the other folders. My top level is BDMV (with contents identical to the pics in Jindrak's first post)

Is this the cause of my failed attempt? How do I create the various files/folders inside the AVCHD folder, as they were not part of the torrent?

(On the burned disk itself there is a Certificate folder that ImgBurn created. It contains a single folder, Backup, which is empty. The other folder on the disk is the BDMV folder with the exact structure as the BDMV folder in Jindrak's first post.)
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/16/13 at 7:11am
post #225 of 422
Again a big thanks to Jindrak!

Eventually I used 4Media DVD Creator to write the DVD's.
This worked great and the sub got a good workout ... so did I!...eek.gif
Only 15 clips fit on a DVD. (highest quality settings)
It took my laptop over two hours for one DVD.
The software doesn't recognise all the clips and some converted without sound... but most clips worked great.

Thanks!!
post #226 of 422
I finally got around to burning this to disc (using the 50GB Digistor brand discs linked a little bit back) and it worked like a charm.

It was so fun to see and hear these clips in my home theater instead of via my computer speakers.

Thanks again for putting this together.
post #227 of 422
Another thought for those of us having trouble ... someone who's good at this could make an iso of a fully functional demo disk and seed it somewhere? I know that might be a lot to ask but just tossing it out there. smile.gif
post #228 of 422
If we can get the "five year old instructions" then I suspect it will burn just fine. The ultimate blu ray disc seed and instructions on another AVS thread worked fine, and I suspect we're close.
post #229 of 422
Thread Starter 
I would make a different package so that there wouldn't be this sort of problem, but I wouldn't want to inconvenience the current people who are downloading and close to completion. But if enough people want/need it, I could see what I can do. I would hope my instructions on the 1st page would be enough, but they seemingly aren't. I'm currently trying to figure the in's and out's of Scenarist, so hopefully a much better working version can come out soon.
post #230 of 422
Jindrak, the clips are a great collection of scenes and a welcome addition to this forum.

I'd download again if that was the easiest way to get a working version.

I followed the instructions in post #1 very carefully, along with the post on the proper ImgBurn settings.

Maybe a youtube video with shots of key settings or screens for both the cleaned up files and for ImgBurn (after confirming it works on a non-HTPC player)?

I compared the other AVS forum disk which works on my Oppo to the one I burned using the instructions in this thread. Here are the key differences in the file structures:

1.) There are differences in the two disks CERTIFICATE folders.

1.a) Your disk has a single empty folder, "BACKUP", inside the CERTIFICATE folder.
1.b) The working disk has "id.bdmv" inside the BACKUP folder (that is inside the CERTIFICATE folder) and also has "id.bdmv" inside its "CERTIFICATE" folder.
..... So, maybe the errors are in the ImgBurn instructions?

2.) There are also differences in the two disks BDMV folders:

2.1.a) In your disk there are two files inside the AUXDATA folder: "multiAVCHD" and "sound.bdmv"
2.1.b) In the working disk the AUXDATA folder is empty

2.2.) In the META folders:
2.2.a) Yours has an ES folder.
2.2.b) The working disk does not have an ES folder

Otherwise the two disks have identical structures.
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/17/13 at 5:32am
post #231 of 422
Anyone using media portal to play this? I made an iso using image burn and the menu will not work. I can pick individual clips but that is it.
post #232 of 422
I've followed the directions from the OP and am trying to burn this ... I am using a BD-RE DL in case it bombs out but am showing the disk is about 176 mb short on space. Is there some additional overhead on a BD-RE DL that I don't know about? Unfortunately, I don't have any write-once discs to compare to...

I verified the files are correct. I'm an IT Pro for almost 25 years so I know a little about this stuff ... wink.gif

Does imgburn have an overburn feature?

This dang disc cost me $20! lol
post #233 of 422
Thread Starter 
Might be the disc you have. I've burned on both regular and RE BD's and they burn just fine.
post #234 of 422
Could it have something to do with the files that were added/removed? I'm short 178mb according to ImgBurn and verified everything. I'm showing 46.5 GB (49,951,342,651 bytes) as the size of the BDMV folder. 1402 files/14 folders
post #235 of 422
Can someone in the know please give a detailed explanation on how to do this.

Pretty please, with sugar on top...
post #236 of 422
Got it working on media portal, seems I forgot to transfer a few files. Nice work. Only had chance to watch a few but it looks and sounds great!
post #237 of 422
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Originally Posted by dondino View Post

I've followed the directions from the OP and am trying to burn this ... I am using a BD-RE DL in case it bombs out but am showing the disk is about 176 mb short on space. Is there some additional overhead on a BD-RE DL that I don't know about? Unfortunately, I don't have any write-once discs to compare to...

I verified the files are correct. I'm an IT Pro for almost 25 years so I know a little about this stuff ... wink.gif

Does imgburn have an overburn feature?

This dang disc cost me $20! lol

You probably need to reformat the disc. The long way. Yes, hours, but that should get you the space you need.

post #238 of 422
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Originally Posted by dondino View Post

Could it have something to do with the files that were added/removed? I'm short 178mb according to ImgBurn and verified everything. I'm showing 46.5 GB (49,951,342,651 bytes) as the size of the BDMV folder. 1402 files/14 folders

Mine shows exactly the same prior to ImgBurn. The burned disk would take more, as there also has to be room for the Certificate folder

When I create an ISO image file to my hard drive the ImgBurn calculator says:

Total File Size: 49,951,342,651 bytes and 24,391,331 total file sectors
Total Image Size: 49,960,386,560 bytes and 24,394,720 image sectors

I am using a Verbatim BD -R DL disk. In the properties on my (failed to work) disk it shows only 49,960,321,024 as capacity. Appears there are too many video files, to the tune of 65,536 bytes, to work properly on a normal BD -R DL disk?
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/18/13 at 7:49am
post #239 of 422
Can't you just erase the one scene you like the least and burn that?
post #240 of 422
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Originally Posted by art West-VL. View Post

Can't you just erase the one scene you like the least and burn that?

I don't know.

Are there "hard sequences coded" or similar in the indexing that would cause it to hang when it gets to the missing scene? Disks are around $10 apiece, so I'd like to get the second one exactly right
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