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post #241 of 422
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

Might be the disc you have. I've burned on both regular and RE BD's and they burn just fine.

Indeed. It could be some blank BD-R/REs have a bit more space (overburn capacity) than others. Also it might be differences between players.
post #242 of 422
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

I finally got around to burning this to disc (using the 50GB Digistor brand discs linked a little bit back) and it worked like a charm.

It was so fun to see and hear these clips in my home theater instead of via my computer speakers.

Thanks again for putting this together.

Nickbuol,

Any chance you can try your disk in another brand of player (or two)? ...

Also, what was the size of the original files you burned (did your file and byte count match what Dondino and I reported in Post #238) and the size on the disk after burning (does that match what I reported in Post #238 too)?

I'm trying to figure out if this is an Oppo/player issue, or a blank media issue, or, whether Dondino and I happened to make exactly the same error in converting the torrent files.
post #243 of 422
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

Might be the disc you have. I've burned on both regular and RE BD's and they burn just fine.

Jindrak,

Any chance you can try your disk in another brand of player (or two)? ...

Also, what was the size of the original files you burned (did your file and byte count match what Dondino and I reported in Post #238) and the size on the disk after burning (does that match what I reported in Post #238 too)?

I'm trying to figure out if this is an Oppo/player issue, or a blank media issue, or, whether Dondino and I happened to make exactly the same error in converting the torrent files.
post #244 of 422
I've downloaded everything, moved the files, and created an iso file. I was able to play the iso with xbmc, but no sound came out. Any idea what to check first?
post #245 of 422
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Originally Posted by grhopper View Post

I've downloaded everything, moved the files, and created an iso file. I was able to play the iso with xbmc, but no sound came out. Any idea what to check first?

Sound settings wink.gif Seriously, how do you listen to the image? Are you trying to bitstream to your AVR?
post #246 of 422
i've never used xbmc before, just downloaded it for this b/c I don't have a blu-ray burner. I can hear sound playing youtube just fine. I plugged in an hdmi cable connected to my tv and the sound is going through my tv to my hdmi cable. I do not know if my problem is with the iso file or the way I have the settings on xbmc. the good news is that my 13 month old daughter is dancing to Sail by awolnation.
post #247 of 422
I did a full format of my BD-RE DL and it still shows short on space. Trying the burn anyway but I doubt it'll work. If it doesn't I'll author my own disk and trim a scene or two off so it'll fit. Again, OP, I hope our frustration isn't being misconstrued as ungratefulness. I'm sincerely grateful you went through all this trouble for the community. Kudos.
post #248 of 422
Figured out my problem, but not how to fix it. If I don't have a hdmi cable plugged into my laptop, then xbmc plays the sounds when the audio is set to analog. When I plug in the hdmi cable, the sound still comes out of my laptop speakers, not through the hdmi cable into the avr. When I switch the audio option in xbmc to hdmi, I don't hear any sound coming out of anywhere. Any clue what's wrong?
post #249 of 422
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Originally Posted by grhopper View Post

Figured out my problem, but not how to fix it. If I don't have a hdmi cable plugged into my laptop, then xbmc plays the sounds when the audio is set to analog. When I plug in the hdmi cable, the sound still comes out of my laptop speakers, not through the hdmi cable into the avr. When I switch the audio option in xbmc to hdmi, I don't hear any sound coming out of anywhere. Any clue what's wrong?

Check the sound icon in your control panel ... might be somewhere in there to tell it to route sound through your HDMI. Which laptop chipset? If it's AMD, there's a driver (I believe) you can download to output your sound through HDMI. YMMV.
post #250 of 422
Intel Core i5 running Windows 8. When watching youtube videos on google chrome browser the sound automatically switches to hdmi sound when the cable is plugged in.
post #251 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

I second this request. I very, very, carefully followed Jindrak's (new) instructions in post #1 and #200 and Nickbuol's in post #197 and the freshly burned disk won't play on an Oppo 93

The title screen comes up with an Avatar destruction of the hometree scene front and center, but there's no navigation or play functionality.

Brucemck2,

Do you have a USB hard drive available? You could put the BDMV folder on it and connect it to your Oppo and play it, and save blank discs while you're at it. I finished the d/l moved and deleted the folders around as directed in the first post of this thread (I did not find any 0-byte files, though...wierd), put it on a 2TB WD Passport and played it on my BDP-93.

After the player fully boots, press the Home button, select Movie, select your hard drive, select the BDMV folder, I think it then showed me an AVCHD folder...select it. The menu came up, I only tested a short clip (MI:4 Kremlin explosion) but it worked. After the clip finished it went on to the next clip, though. Had to press Top Menu to get back to the menu.

Hope this helps!


Edit: BTW, is the firmware up-to-date on your Oppo?


Also, Thanks to Jindrak for making this!
post #252 of 422
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Originally Posted by grhopper View Post

Intel Core i5 running Windows 8. When watching youtube videos on google chrome browser the sound automatically switches to hdmi sound when the cable is plugged in.

Ah I see. Then it appears to be an configuration issue with that playback software you were using. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with it ... check this out: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=58258
post #253 of 422
Thread Starter 
No, you cannot erase any scenes, as that would make the whole disk unplayable. The way the disc and menu are formatted makes it so that everything must be together. Removing 1 thing, anything, will kill the disc. The imgburn settings you have shown, I have gotten the same thing. But I can successfully burn, even with the disc capacity being that close.
post #254 of 422
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

No, you cannot erase any scenes, as that would make the whole disk unplayable. The way the disc and menu are formatted makes it so that everything must be together. Removing 1 thing, anything, will kill the disc. The imgburn settings you have shown, I have gotten the same thing. But I can successfully burn, even with the disc capacity being that close.

Mine appeared to complete a successful burn but does not play: ImgBurn finished the job and didn't report an error or ask for another disk to be inserted.

Will yours play in other players (ideally testing in an Oppo)?
post #255 of 422
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Originally Posted by redsandvb View Post

Edit: BTW, is the firmware up-to-date on your Oppo?


Also, Thanks to Jindrak for making this!

Ditto on the thanks to Jindrak. Yes, my firmware is up to date.

Can anyone who burned one successfully try it in an Oppo player?
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/19/13 at 5:03am
post #256 of 422
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Originally Posted by grhopper View Post

Figured out my problem, but not how to fix it. If I don't have a hdmi cable plugged into my laptop, then xbmc plays the sounds when the audio is set to analog. When I plug in the hdmi cable, the sound still comes out of my laptop speakers, not through the hdmi cable into the avr. When I switch the audio option in xbmc to hdmi, I don't hear any sound coming out of anywhere. Any clue what's wrong?
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Originally Posted by grhopper View Post

Intel Core i5 running Windows 8. When watching youtube videos on google chrome browser the sound automatically switches to hdmi sound when the cable is plugged in.

Sorry for the delay grhopper. I'm not familiar with Win8 but I'll assume it's close to Win7 where audio is concerned. There are many ways to get audio out of XBMC. I assume you're using the latest release of XBMC (i.e. v12 "Frodo")? That version is able to output audio either through Window's mixer, or to take control of the HDMI output and send bitstream (i.e. non-decoded) audio to your receiver. This is probably what you want unless you're listening on a computer speaker setup.

The first step is to ensure that the HDMI Audio output is detected and enabled in Windows. Once your HDMI cable is connected to your laptop, go in the Sound control panel (assuming it's still called the same in Win8). There in the Playback tab, you'll see the various devices that can output audio. You should see something like "ATI HDMI output" for example if your laptop has an AMD/ATI graphic card. If you don't see it, right-click in the panel and check "Show disabled devices" and if needed, enable the HDMI output. Once it's enabled, right-click on it, and set it as your default device (note: you may have to select the speakers as the default device when you unplug the HDMI cable -- else your volume buttons won't affect the speakers!). Select the HDMI output and click configure; follow the wizard and set your audio channels according to your receiver's capabilities. E.g. if you have a 7.1 receiver but only 5.1 speakers, I suggest you select the 7.1 setup there. 7.1 sound will then be streamed to your receiver and the receiver will downmix it to 5.1. Click test to ensure everything is right. When you're out of the wizard, right-click on the HDMI output device and click "Properties". In the Advanced tab, ensure that the box where it says applications can take exclusive control of the device is checked.

Once the HDMI output is enabled, configured and tested, go in XBMC -> System -> Settings and choose the Audio Output settings. There select HDMI output and select the formats your receiver can decode. Those will go in pass-through mode to the HDMI output. For the Audio Output at the bottom of the screen, select the HDMI DirectSound output: the non-passthrough formats will use that, i.e. Windows DirectSound will mix in sound from system notifications and other apps. For The Passthrough Output, select the HDMI WASAPI output: WASAPI exclusive mode will bypass Windows DirectSound and send bitstream output directly to your receiver. *Feww* You should be all set like this.

Note that setting the sound to "Analog" instead of "HDMI" will simply send the stream to Windows DirectSound to be decoded, and you may get acceptable playback this way too. But I found bitstreaming directly to the receiver to be preferable.

Good luck!
post #257 of 422
I think he mentioned he's running HDMI to the TV. If that's the case, it likely wont decode DD-HD or DTS-HD. TV's are software coded to not pass through DTS or anything more than stereo usually.

He needs to plug the hdmi cord directly into a HD audio capable device, or tell xbmc that the audio device is only capable of playing whatever it can play (2.0 dolby digital) and let xbmc downsample it accordingly.
post #258 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

Ditto on the thanks to Jindrak. Yes, my firmware is up to date.

Can anyone who burned one successfully try it in an Oppo player?

I did not burn one, but it does play off a USB HDD with my Oppo BDP-93. It treats it like a disc, as far as I know.
post #259 of 422
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

I think he mentioned he's running HDMI to the TV. If that's the case, it likely wont decode DD-HD or DTS-HD. TV's are software coded to not pass through DTS or anything more than stereo usually.

He needs to plug the hdmi cord directly into a HD audio capable device, or tell xbmc that the audio device is only capable of playing whatever it can play (2.0 dolby digital) and let xbmc downsample it accordingly.

In that case he should simply use the "analog" audio output type and let Windows decode and downmix. The TV may be able to decode Dolby digital 5.1 but I don't think any of the scenes use that. Not sure if TVs support decoded multichannel audio in LPCM; if not the LFE channel will be downmixed as well. Certainly not the optimal way to listen to the Ultimate Bass Demo Disc...

EDIT: unless he has a TV and AVR with Audio Return Channel, in which case it might be possible to still bitstream to the receiver through the TV?
post #260 of 422
4 disks down the drain. I have 6 left in this pack.
post #261 of 422
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

4 disks down the drain. I have 6 left in this pack.

Do your file and byte counts of the raw (unburned) material match what I got in Post #238? Does your post burn not working disk also match what I got in Post #238?

What brand of disk, burner hardware, and player are you using. (In my case, Verbatim, LG, and Oppo)

I'm trying to sort out if those of us not succeeding are having disk/burner incompatibility issues, or, player issues, or both.
post #262 of 422
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

In that case he should simply use the "analog" audio output type and let Windows decode and downmix. The TV may be able to decode Dolby digital 5.1 but I don't think any of the scenes use that. Not sure if TVs support decoded multichannel audio in LPCM; if not the LFE channel will be downmixed as well. Certainly not the optimal way to listen to the Ultimate Bass Demo Disc...

EDIT: unless he has a TV and AVR with Audio Return Channel, in which case it might be possible to still bitstream to the receiver through the TV?

I do have a TV and AVR with the ARC setup. I got it to work after trying a few different setting and unplugging and replugging the hdmi cable. Only got to play with a for a little while until the wife got home. Enjoyed what I was able to watch.
post #263 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

Ditto on the thanks to Jindrak. Yes, my firmware is up to date.

Can anyone who burned one successfully try it in an Oppo player?

I got one burned successfully with Jindrak guide. The disk can play well on a Oppo 105.
post #264 of 422
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Originally Posted by BBUGSY View Post

I got one burned successfully with Jindrak guide. The disk can play well on a Oppo 105.

What brand of disk and burner?

What is the size of the file (folders and bytes) before burning and then on the burned disk itself?

This will help me debug my issues.
post #265 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

What brand of disk and burner?

What is the size of the file (folders and bytes) before burning and then on the burned disk itself?

This will help me debug my issues.

Pioneer BDR-207EBK, the writer I got it from Taiwan. The model is different. US side should be 2207.

Verbatim BD-R DL 50GB 4X, got it from ebay Japan.

I used ImgBurn to burn.

File System Information:

Sectors: 24,394,720
Size: 49,960,386,560 bytes

Hope that helps.
post #266 of 422
BBUGSY .... what are you showing for the raw BDMV folder prior to burning it? Does it show 49,951,342,651 bytes as the size of the BDMV folder, with 1402 files/14 folders?

I strongly suspect that those of us having problems have disks/burners that won't write the full file size properly, and, that ImgBurn isn't giving an error message about that
Edited by Brucemck2 - 3/21/13 at 7:24am
post #267 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

BBUGSY .... what are you showing for the raw BDMV folder prior to burning it? Does it show 49,951,342,651 bytes as the size of the BDMV folder, with 1402 files/14 folders?

I strongly suspect that those of us having problems have disks/burners that won't write the full file size properly, and, that ImgBurn isn't giving an error message about that

I got that from Imgburn screen, sorry showed the wrong details.

From my BD drive, the disc properties shows

The BDMV folder contain 1402 files/ 14 folders.

Beside it is the Certificate folder.

Size: 49,951,342,651 bytes.

I used nickbuol's guide at post #197, Jindrak's at #200.
post #268 of 422
Thanks!

Given that I have exactly the same starting point prior to burning, but different after burning, it's almost certainly an issue with my LG burner and/or Verbatim disks. I'm going to try a different brand of disk, and if that doesn't work, a different burner.
post #269 of 422
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

Thanks!

Given that I have exactly the same starting point prior to burning, but different after burning, it's almost certainly an issue with my LG burner and/or Verbatim disks. I'm going to try a different brand of disk, and if that doesn't work, a different burner.

DVD Rom ? Had one in my desktop, I was goggling high and low on the burning part.

Then decided to get the Blu ray burner from Ebay to rest my worries.

Why not ask the guys who burn successfully send a copy to you, at least can save on the disks. Damn they are expensive.
post #270 of 422
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Originally Posted by BBUGSY View Post

Why not ask the guys who burn successfully send a copy to you, at least can save on the disks. Damn they are expensive.

I'm hoping for a series of three or four blockbuster hits, so rather than rely upon the goodwill of others I will crack the code.


That being said, the next disk should have a clip or two cut out so that even LG burners and Verbatim disks have enough capacity smile.gif
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