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post #271 of 852
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Originally Posted by BBUGSY View Post


Why not ask the guys who burn successfully send a copy to you, at least can save on the disks. Damn they are expensive.

I know "someone" who offered another person here (think The Dark Side) to burn a copy for them, but hasn't heard back yet.

Maybe that person would be kind enough should someone need it.


In my opinion, having a good disc to not only use for viewing/listening, but also to look at the file structure, could be helpful to see where things went wrong.

However, there is something rewarding to figuring it out yourself.
post #272 of 852
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Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post

I'm hoping for a series of three or four blockbuster hits, so rather than rely upon the goodwill of others I will crack the code.


That being said, the next disk should have a clip or two cut out so that even LG burners and Verbatim disks have enough capacity smile.gif

There is nothing wrong with the Verbatim discs. I have burned multiples of them. It is most likely a burner issue and/or software issue. The burner I use is the ASUS External 12X Blu-Ray Burner with USB 3.0 BW-12D1S-U/BLK/G, as seen here http://www.amazon.com/External-Blu-Ray-Burner-BW-12D1S-U-BLK/dp/B0051UY168/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1363911215&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+blu+ray+burner
post #273 of 852
I managed to get the torrent, cleared all the 0kB files and cleared the folders as was discussed. Burned an iso using ImageBurn and loaded the iso to a HDD. Played fine on the Oppo BDP-93 (older firmware iso capable). However, the bdmv folders and the iso could not play on my Dune D1. BDMV folder would start and exit, the iso would say no playlist.

Not sure why its so. Also when playing in the Oppo, after each clip it would continue to next clip. Navigation from top menu was slow as well.

However, its an awesome collection of clips for bass freaks.
post #274 of 852
Many many thanks to Jindrak for compiling this disk, and going to great lengths to pay for a seedbox for the community. In light of the issues some people have been having creating a usable disk, would it be better if Jindrak, or someone with a problem-free disk, create an ISO of the disk for download? This would probably eliminate chances for many user-errors. With Jindrak's permission, would someone upload an ISO image, please? Thanks. I am downloading it currently with an ETA of 5 weeks. redface.gif
post #275 of 852
+1 for raaj.

Even though the instructions seem clear seems many are still having issues. Whether it's the content being slightly too large for the disk, not knowing what to delete, etc.

It would be so much easier if we just downloaded an ISO and preferable a compressed ISO for a smaller download. 50Gigs is alot for me to download and if I can't burn it for whatever reason i would be disappointed for sure. Even with the walkthroughs some are having issues which is making me tentative about the whole thing. I only have 60 G bandwidth per month.
post #276 of 852
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Originally Posted by power View Post

+1 for raaj.

Even though the instructions seem clear seems many are still having issues. Whether it's the content being slightly too large for the disk, not knowing what to delete, etc.

It would be so much easier if we just downloaded an ISO and preferable a compressed ISO for a smaller download. 50Gigs is alot for me to download and if I can't burn it for whatever reason i would be disappointed for sure. Even with the walkthroughs some are having issues which is making me tentative about the whole thing. I only have 60 G bandwidth per month.

You can't compress that which is mostly compressed to begin with. After many hours of processing, a 46gig .iso might become 45.7gig. Hardly worth it.

The disc is fine, I understand many are having problems, but people had problems with my discs as well (although not to this degree) and I released an .iso. It is what it is. The recommendation to use BD-REs were given over and over.
post #277 of 852
After the 5 week ETA notice when I last replied, some angels came by with big fat upload pipes, and my download completed in a little more than 8 hrs. smile.gif I am returning the favor by seeding the torrent, and my connection can go as high as 500 kB/sec.

I am going through the motions of cleaning up the file structure as per instructions and will create an ISO using Imgburn. If everything works out well, I will post a Youtube walkthrough of the procedure, all they way up to creating an ISO.

I guess for the Volume 2 of this disk, Jindrak would consider uploading the ISO instead of the individual files. Is there a specific reason why it was done the other way around for this volume?
post #278 of 852
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

You can't compress that which is mostly compressed to begin with. After many hours of processing, a 46gig .iso might become 45.7gig. Hardly worth it.

The disc is fine, I understand many are having problems, but people had problems with my discs as well (although not to this degree) and I released an .iso. It is what it is. The recommendation to use BD-REs were given over and over.

Yes your right, obviously not worth it if only minimal compression. I am downloading the demo disk, getting decent speed, should be done in total 2 days or less. Thanks to everyone for their hard work.

+1 on the youtube tutorial.
post #279 of 852
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Stay tuned folks...... I'm currently working on a Version 2 of this Demo Disc with Scenarist, which should make the menu and disc functionality much better. Whenever this does get completed, I'll upload it as an ISO. More to come soon.
post #280 of 852
This is very nice of you Jindrak. Now I totally hate making any request on top of that, but if you rework the menus, could you just post the new menu files for those who already downloaded the video files? Will that simply be an updated MovieObject.bdmb file or am I being a bit naive?
Edited by neutro - 3/26/13 at 3:52am
post #281 of 852
Thread Starter 
No, I cannot just post that, it's impossible. The menu is directly tied to the rest of the blu-ray structure. Everything is created as one.
post #282 of 852
While I liked Jindrak's efforts for creating a menu, Eventually I just moved all the video files to a directory on my NAS, and named them accordingly. I just use xbmc to browse the file names. It works well enough.
post #283 of 852
Thread Starter 
Well hopefully the next ones will be far better than the freeware program I was limited too.
post #284 of 852
Jindrak -- I suspect the problems reported in this thread are mainly due to the image being just a tad too large for some discs or players.

As for the problems with the menu in XBMC, it's not your fault at all: XBMC 12 only supports 1 of 3 possible menu types. Hence I may very well adopt jonathanc's solution. While a working menu would be nice it's not much of a problem in the current state.
post #285 of 852
Hi

Any idea for the availability of cover art and fan art ?
post #286 of 852
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Jindrak -- I suspect the problems reported in this thread are mainly due to the image being just a tad too large for some discs or players.

As for the problems with the menu in XBMC, it's not your fault at all: XBMC 12 only supports 1 of 3 possible menu types. Hence I may very well adopt jonathanc's solution. While a working menu would be nice it's not much of a problem in the current state.

I can also say that for the version 2, I will remove the Avatar - Destruction of Hometree scene, which will free up about 2.3 GB of space. While ripping the various clips out would work, it just seems to me that that just cheapens the amount of work that went into the compilation, kind of just reducing this to no more than a repository of audio clips. (Which, I guess it is if you get down to it, but) But I can understand as the current menu/disc is far underpar compared to the other efforts that other members have made.
post #287 of 852
Is anybody still streaming this? I am at work now, but am going to start the torrent tonight, and hope to have some good download speeds and get it over the weekend.

Jindrak, thanks in advance for your efforts!

Agreed with the removal of the Avatar tree scene, subpar compared to some of the other scenes on the discs TBH.

Cheers,

McStyvie
post #288 of 852
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Originally Posted by Jindrak View Post

I can also say that for the version 2, I will remove the Avatar - Destruction of Hometree scene, which will free up about 2.3 GB of space.

If image size is the culprit, this should do the trick. That scene is also present on the Reference Blu-ray demo disc (bass) so for me it's a non-issue.
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While ripping the various clips out would work, it just seems to me that that just cheapens the amount of work that went into the compilation, kind of just reducing this to no more than a repository of audio clips. (Which, I guess it is if you get down to it, but) But I can understand as the current menu/disc is far underpar compared to the other efforts that other members have made.

I think you underestimate the value of building such a repository / compilation. While the menu is a nice portal to that compilation, I think your efforts regarding its selection, edition, and distribution is spectacular and what makes the project interesting for me. The blu-ray format is simply a handy way to handle / distribute / present the compilation.

This sparks an idea, which I won't do myself because I lack time / willpower / money / etc. to realize. Maybe we could build up a repository that is not limited by file size limits of the blu-ray format. That repository could be built and distributed in smaller chunks (e.g. 5-10 GB torrents), and would simply be .m2ts files (or mkv!) with appropriate names and/or accompanying metadata. This way anyone could grow the demo repository, and make blu-ray ISOs out of their favorite scenes. People with HTPCs and media players could simply browser a huge rep filled with demo scenes.
post #289 of 852
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post


This sparks an idea, which I won't do myself because I lack time / willpower / money / etc. to realize. Maybe we could build up a repository that is not limited by file size limits of the blu-ray format. That repository could be built and distributed in smaller chunks (e.g. 5-10 GB torrents), and would simply be .m2ts files (or mkv!) with appropriate names and/or accompanying metadata. This way anyone could grow the demo repository, and make blu-ray ISOs out of their favorite scenes. People with HTPCs and media players could simply browser a huge rep filled with demo scenes.

The problem is that is too small a market to get great participation. The universal market for all of us is BDMV.

I don't know if you tried my disc, or leo's, but I can ensure the menu navigation with pop-up is superior to trying to navigate in a file explorer. You also gain advantages such as playlists when using an authored menu. (I.e., play all clips from LFE category)
post #290 of 852
After deleting all the 0 byte files and duplicate folders I have 1402 files and 10 folders, not 14 folders as posted earlier in the thread.

The image to be burned has 17 folders, I am assuming so it can write the JAR and BDJO folder (as seen in first screen), and certificate folders I would assume. Hopefully this is correct...Or do I have to add them manually myself before creating the image? As far as I know I did exactly as instructed, not sure why I ended up with 10 folders but I didn't create the JAR and BDJO folders since nothing was mentioned about it.
Edited by power - 3/28/13 at 2:27pm
post #291 of 852
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

The problem is that is too small a market to get great participation. The universal market for all of us is BDMV.

I don't know if you tried my disc, or leo's, but I can ensure the menu navigation with pop-up is superior to trying to navigate in a file explorer. You also gain advantages such as playlists when using an authored menu. (I.e., play all clips from LFE category)

You're totally right on all points. However I expect the first issue to evolve rather rapidly. And while I totally agree that a nice menu makes the experience much more pleasant, I still consider it a "nice to have". For me, simply being able to quickly access a large number of demo scenes is the biggest appeal of Jindrak's, Superleo's and your discs. The selection, edition and distribution of those collections makes it worthwhile alone -- the menus, art, etc. are simply cherries on the metaphorical sundae for me biggrin.gif
post #292 of 852
Hi,

I am getting 17kb download rate on this, anyone care to seed it for me so it goes quicker? Would much appreciate it!

Cheers,
McStyvie
post #293 of 852
Hello everyone! I finished download the file earlier in the week and converted the BDMV into a AVCHD file via multiAVCHD and placed it on a USB flash drive that I had. Unfortunately I do not own a BD burner so I opted to try it out this way. I have not yet played through all of the clips but I have noticed on several clips, all of the Dark Knight and some of the Dolby Demo material for example, that no sound comes out of my speakers. This is weird because when I access the PS3 display information it shows data being transferred for both audio and video, but unfortunately only the video shows up. Also to note, that on the clips that play successfully, my Denon receiver will display the audio format, e.g. DTS-MA, but for the files that are not playing successfully, it only shows either PL-II or stereo.

Everyone on this thread has been very helpful and I thank you in advance. I appreciate all of your hard work and I am very excited to put my subwoofer through this workout.
post #294 of 852
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post


I don't know if you tried my disc, or leo's, but I can ensure the menu navigation with pop-up is superior to trying to navigate in a file explorer. You also gain advantages such as playlists when using an authored menu. (I.e., play all clips from LFE category)

The extra work put into menus is appreciated, however, for those of us who store our libraries in central locations, it becomes redundant to use a menu system to then open up a new menu system (BluRay ISO opened within XBMC.)

It isn't just a file browser. One can set up a smartlist to make it look good, with fanart and descriptions via .nfo files. With that said, it isn't portable. Its not easy like popping out the disc and taking it to a friends house, so that he can test out his Bose setup.
post #295 of 852
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Originally Posted by GatorPharm View Post

Hello everyone! I finished download the file earlier in the week and converted the BDMV into a AVCHD file via multiAVCHD and placed it on a USB flash drive that I had. Unfortunately I do not own a BD burner so I opted to try it out this way. I have not yet played through all of the clips but I have noticed on several clips, all of the Dark Knight and some of the Dolby Demo material for example, that no sound comes out of my speakers. This is weird because when I access the PS3 display information it shows data being transferred for both audio and video, but unfortunately only the video shows up. Also to note, that on the clips that play successfully, my Denon receiver will display the audio format, e.g. DTS-MA, but for the files that are not playing successfully, it only shows either PL-II or stereo.

Everyone on this thread has been very helpful and I thank you in advance. I appreciate all of your hard work and I am very excited to put my subwoofer through this workout.



I seem to have solved my own problem, although still confused as to why this is happening. Currently I have two separate USB flash drives that I use to load both Superloeo's and Jindrak's demo material. I noticed last night that only the clips that use Dolby TrueHD as the audio file were ones that were not playing via my PS3 / Denon. I went into the PS3 audio output mode and changed it from "bitstream" to "Linear PCM" and all of the audio began to play masterfully. I am happy to be able to play the clips now but it still leaves me with the question as to why on both Superleo's disc as well as on Jindrak's disc does the DTS-MA play fine through the Denon but not the DolbyTrueHD?
post #296 of 852

You don't say which Denon you have. Perhaps it doesn't support TrueHD, which is a relatively new format. Glad you found a work-around (though it's probably not as hi-def as it could be).

post #297 of 852
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Originally Posted by GatorPharm View Post

I seem to have solved my own problem, although still confused as to why this is happening. Currently I have two separate USB flash drives that I use to load both Superloeo's and Jindrak's demo material. I noticed last night that only the clips that use Dolby TrueHD as the audio file were ones that were not playing via my PS3 / Denon. I went into the PS3 audio output mode and changed it from "bitstream" to "Linear PCM" and all of the audio began to play masterfully. I am happy to be able to play the clips now but it still leaves me with the question as to why on both Superleo's disc as well as on Jindrak's disc does the DTS-MA play fine through the Denon but not the DolbyTrueHD?

It's likely nothing you did. DTSHD and TrueHD are handled very differently by their respective developers. TrueHD is simply a trickier best and multiAVCHD can have issues dealing with it and setting the corresponding flags.
post #298 of 852
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Originally Posted by GatorPharm View Post

I seem to have solved my own problem, although still confused as to why this is happening. Currently I have two separate USB flash drives that I use to load both Superloeo's and Jindrak's demo material. I noticed last night that only the clips that use Dolby TrueHD as the audio file were ones that were not playing via my PS3 / Denon. I went into the PS3 audio output mode and changed it from "bitstream" to "Linear PCM" and all of the audio began to play masterfully. I am happy to be able to play the clips now but it still leaves me with the question as to why on both Superleo's disc as well as on Jindrak's disc does the DTS-MA play fine through the Denon but not the DolbyTrueHD?

Depending on the PS3 version you have, it may not be able to bitstream the lossless formats. I own a "fat" PS3 and in order to listen to DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD, I must let the PS3 decode the stream and send it as LPCM to my receiver.

Also, I think Dolby TrueHD is indeed trickier to decode than DTS-MA. Even if my WDTV live simply bitstreams the audio through HDMI, it chokes on Dolby TrueHD files but plays DTS-MA ones alright. The same is true with older versions of VLC on my laptop.
post #299 of 852
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

You don't say which Denon you have. Perhaps it doesn't support TrueHD, which is a relatively new format. Glad you found a work-around (though it's probably not as hi-def as it could be).

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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

It's likely nothing you did. DTSHD and TrueHD are handled very differently by their respective developers. TrueHD is simply a trickier best and multiAVCHD can have issues dealing with it and setting the corresponding flags.

I was with you in thinking that my Denon was the culprit, but then I got to thinking that it is a Denon 2113 and has no problems at all when watching Blu-ray Discs and decoding Dolby TrueHD. I think ScubaSteve must be right in that Dolby TrueHD is somehow more complex in their algorithm when compared to DTS-MA and when using the program multiAVCHD to build my disc, it somehow cannot place the right flags in order for my Denon to read it correctly. I don't feel like I am getting cheated at all because in my understanding of Bitstream vs. Linear PCM, there really is no difference. In bitstream, the PS3 sends the raw data to the receiver to decode while in PCM, the PS3 does the decoding and sends all of the information to the receiver. Oh well, it just gave me a little heart attack thinking that something was broken. Thanks for the replies!
post #300 of 852
Been downloading this since Thursday, and am at 2.7%...at 15k/second average, I am about to give up...could anyone please seed this so I can finish the download?

Thanks again!
McStyvie
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