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post #1 of 11
5/29/12 at 5:54pm
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Ok, I recently acquired Quad 11L2 speakers. I have an old Denon AVR-687 Receiver that I used to run them. I decided to try the Bi-Amping and picked up some Canare 4S11. I tried using the Rear Surround to supplement the Main (using the menu on the system). I really didn't like how recessed the highs and mids became and then the bass became boomy. I ended up going back to normal, but wondering if I did something wrong. Since I have Quad speaker wire, before I end up doubling up the sides.... I'd like to know other thoughts about Bi-Amping the speakers and if it's even worth it with Mini Monitors.
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post #2 of 11
5/29/12 at 6:43pm
I'm not an expert but for the sake of clarification, I presume that you have properly installed an active crossover between your preamp & amps to allow you to "biamp"?

(disclaimer: I biamp with an active crossover)
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post #3 of 11
5/29/12 at 6:46pm
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No, I just plugged everything in and followed the instructions in the manual (which didn't mention anything about the cross-over)... Hmmm...
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post #4 of 11
5/30/12 at 4:54am
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Ok, it appears that what I was hearing... were both sets of drivers in the individual speakers trying to run full sound through them when I bi-amped. Thus, it sounded awful! I don't know if my receiver has the ability to set the X-over for the bi-amping... but I'll have to look into that.
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post #5 of 11
5/30/12 at 5:04am
By the accounts of most...bi-amp does little, if any, good in terms of sound quality.
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post #6 of 11
5/30/12 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by Elihawk View Post

By the accounts of most...bi-amp does little, if any, good in terms of sound quality.

Bi-amping can improve sound quality by a very large margin. But it must be properly implemented. The most important factor is a good electronic crossover, and the knowledge of how to use it.
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post #7 of 11
5/30/12 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Bi-amping can improve sound quality by a very large margin. But it must be properly implemented. The most important factor is a good electronic crossover, and the knowledge of how to use it.

What is a suggested Crossover? Would I have to put an amp after the Crossover?
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post #8 of 11
5/30/12 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

What is a suggested Crossover? Would I have to put an amp after the Crossover?

There are many good crossovers, the issue for you is you'd need to add probably two amps. Bi-amping and receivers don't get along, you need a separate tuner/pre-amp, with the crossover between it and the amps.
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post #9 of 11
5/30/12 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

There are many good crossovers, the issue for you is you'd need to add probably two amps. Bi-amping and receivers don't get along, you need a separate tuner/pre-amp, with the crossover between it and the amps.

Ok, I'll stick to non-biamping for now then. I would like to do separates eventually, but not now. Thanks for the help!
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post #10 of 11
5/30/12 at 3:56pm
Sid, I don't know anything about your setup. I'm just saying this to perhaps help give you some wind at your back.

I've been fooling with this hobby since roughly 1978. I was always a plug/play kinda guy and always used a receiver.

I bought some speakers that were intended to be biamped. I therefore had NO research to do and was given the 'recipe' for the active crossover to make them sound right.

That said, I went from never biamping in my life.....cold turkey overnight....to biamping with an active crossover.

Trust me, if a dummy like me can delve into it, anyone can. I will say though, I had a CLEAR benefit in that I had the factory DSP settings for the active crossover and didn't have to do any creative research that some seem to have to do.

Frankly, given my ignorant background, I really do not understand it when someone jumps into buying some drivers, building a box, putting it all together with an active crossover and bi/tri amping it.

If you saw some of the minute adjustments that have been made in my specific DSP program, I would ask you (anyone) how long would it take you to come up with a similar profile when you are using your ears?

I don't get it. Then again, I don't get why some people rob banks.
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post #11 of 11
5/30/12 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Sid, I don't know anything about your setup. I'm just saying this to perhaps help give you some wind at your back.

I've been fooling with this hobby since roughly 1978. I was always a plug/play kinda guy and always used a receiver.

I bought some speakers that were intended to be biamped. I therefore had NO research to do and was given the 'recipe' for the active crossover to make them sound right.

That said, I went from never biamping in my life.....cold turkey overnight....to biamping with an active crossover.

Trust me, if a dummy like me can delve into it, anyone can. I will say though, I had a CLEAR benefit in that I had the factory DSP settings for the active crossover and didn't have to do any creative research that some seem to have to do.

Frankly, given my ignorant background, I really do not understand it when someone jumps into buying some drivers, building a box, putting it all together with an active crossover and bi/tri amping it.

If you saw some of the minute adjustments that have been made in my specific DSP program, I would ask you (anyone) how long would it take you to come up with a similar profile when you are using your ears?

I don't get it. Then again, I don't get why some people rob banks.

Thanks Coytee, I just saw that my speakers had dual posts and my receiver manual mentioned how to do it... So I decided to give it a shot. It didn't mention anything about adding a crossover, and maybe it's somewhere in the settings that I have to play with... Will take a closer look.
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