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HP 5187-4597 IR receiver - does it support discrete power on/off?

post #1 of 12
5/29/12 at 7:14pm
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Does anybody use HP 5187-4597 IR reciver?
HP 5187-4593 does support discrete power on/off.
5187-4597 supposed (?) to be its newer version, but not clear whether it supports discrete power on/off or not...

I hope, it’s right forum to ask this question…
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post #2 of 12
5/29/12 at 8:08pm
I dont know of any USB IR's that support discrete power on/off. The only one I know of is this one HD PLEX INTERNAL IR RECEIVER WITH MCE REMOTE CONTROL(RC6). Also I think your PSU/Motherboard has to support it.

Found this...http://www.simerec.com/PCS-2.html..
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post #3 of 12
5/29/12 at 9:52pm
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Sorry, I phrased it wrong.
I'm very new to this stuff, learned about PLEX internal IR yesterday only.
I meant to bring/send PC from/to S3/S5 mode.
USB port/hub need to be configured to not go to sleep, etc.
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post #4 of 12
5/30/12 at 7:08am
Yes, I have that IR and it does bring my MC into and out of Sleep mode. To Xfett's point -- Make sure you mobo is compatible. I'm using an ASRock H67 ITX board.

EDIT: Sorry, just reread your post. I don't know if I have the old / new one. I can't imagine they'd remove a feature though.
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post #5 of 12
5/31/12 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by monkeymania View Post

Yes, I have that IR and it does bring my MC into and out of Sleep mode. To Xfett's point -- Make sure you mobo is compatible. I'm using an ASRock H67 ITX board.

Which sleep mode you referring to?
What sleep mode you have configured in BIOS?

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Originally Posted by monkeymania View Post

EDIT: Sorry, just reread your post. I don't know if I have the old / new one.

What do you see on the back of your IR?
Or better, what is the VID & PID values you see in
windows Device Manager
for IR receiver properties
on details tab
when you select Hardware IDs?

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I can't imagine they'd remove a feature though.

Happens all the time with Chinese stuff...
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post #6 of 12
5/31/12 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by Apokrif View Post

Sorry, I phrased it wrong.
I’m very new to this stuff, learned about PLEX internal IR yesterday only.
I meant to bring/send PC from/to S3/S5 mode.
USB port/hub need to be configured to not go to sleep, etc.

All you need to do is set your computer to S3 or S5, should be in the BIOS setting. If your using Win 7 go to the control panel > power options > choose what the power buttons do ...and just change how you want them to behave. Then go to change plan setting > change advance power setting > USB settings >USB selective suspend setting...set it to disable.
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post #7 of 12
6/1/12 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by xfett View Post

All you need to do is set your computer to S3 or S5, should be in the BIOS setting...

Yep, it's easy.

I wish, there it'll be separate thread, where people can post their IR receiver model, VID & PID and if it support discrete power on/off or not.

Still not clear to me how important to for IR to support discrete power on/off
I won't be able to wake up/send HTPC from/to S3/S5 sleep, that's all, right?
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post #8 of 12
6/1/12 at 8:25am
I've got a super cheap IR receiver ($3.50 on eBay inc remote) that does sleep/wake just fine. If you're having difficulty, I think its more likely to be a mobo issue than a WMC remote issue.
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post #9 of 12
6/1/12 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by Apokrif View Post

Which sleep mode you referring to?
What sleep mode you have configured in BIOS?

Whatever the default is - besides checking for an update and making sure to include a boot option for USB, I've never gone in the BIOS.

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What do you see on the back of your IR?

It is a 4593.

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Or better, what is the VID & PID values you see in
windows Device Manager
for IR receiver properties
on details tab
when you select Hardware IDs?

VID 1934 / PID 5168

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Happens all the time with Chinese stuff...

That's lame. I lucked out then, had no idea there were two variations.
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post #10 of 12
6/1/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by monkeymania View Post

It is a 4593.
VID 1934 / PID 5168

You got the very right one

Only one ebay seller has it still.
All China sellers sell 4597 now.
Thus I started this thread...
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post #11 of 12
6/1/12 at 4:08pm
I guess Im not really understanding what your trying to do? Put your HTPC to sleep or power down.

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I've got a super cheap IR receiver ($3.50 on eBay inc remote) that does sleep/wake just fine. If you're having difficulty, I think its more likely to be a mobo issue than a WMC remote issue.

If your just trying to put it in sleep mode S3 or S5....thats really all you need. Nothing fancy.. dont need to know the VID or PID as long as it supports RC6 WMC commands. Plug the USB IR in let Win 7 install the drivers and hit the power button on any WMC remote. If it sleeps great if not then check your BIOS setting and your Power Options. Thats it. If your trying to do a complete shut down then thats another story and you'll have to get a specialized IR receiver (HD PLex or PSC-1 or 2) that can do discrete shut down.
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post #12 of 12
6/3/12 at 3:19pm
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Ok. Let's get some clarifications first.
1. S5 is Soft Off, same as "complete shutdown". According to wiki:
For S5 Other components may remain powered so the computer can "wake" on input from the keyboard, clock, modem, LAN, or USB device.
The device need to be configure to retain power (some old mobo doesn't support it?)

2. I've read so far:
Some IR6 receivers does understand discrete power on/off "out of the box".
Some required tweaking (register changes) to make it work.
And some just don't work.
Example (I've read somewhere on forums):
HP 5187-4593 worked fine on HTPC (wake up works)
The guy put another IR6 - it can control WMC with very same remote control, but wake up doesn't work anymore.


I assume USB was configured not to go to sleep already.
Or do we need to configure a USB device not to go to sleep?
That's way one IR can wake up PC (is was powered up), but not another (it was unpowered)?
And don't know yet, what is tweaking (register changes) is about

Didn't mean to offend anybody!
Just trying to dig out the truth
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