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post #31 of 158
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Disappointing, the film grain has been scrubbed into clumps and the usual slight blur that accompanies such a filter hurting the distance shots. Maybe it's the jpeg compression but I doubt it. The source seems to be in good shape however.

Darn, I need a new set of eyes, I don't see any "clumps". (I don't wear glasses/contacts, so it must be the eyes)

Did you actually read the review, from someone who actually saw the film in motion, not just a 1/24th of a second frame grab?
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this high definition presentation is remarkably crisp most of the time, with very pleasing fine detail in the many close-ups . . . . Olive continues its tradition of releasing product that does not appear to have been even slightly digitally tweaked, so this retains a very natural filmic appearance.
post #32 of 158
I watched Space Children last night and would give the video much higher marks than the review above. There are times when I could say I'd never seen video any more clean and crisp. Yes, it isn't perfect but it looks to be very light handed on any manipulation.

I can say the same about Project X ,which I watched the night before. It looks to have been cared for and presented as one might have expected the film to look with several opticals looking indistinct and some large grain with this but it is a BD that one can let go and watch without much issue of being pulled out by significant EE or DNR etc.

Art
post #33 of 158
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The Hangman:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Hangman-Blu-ray/41773/#Review

I guess you could say it has more film grain in the caps then IOTBS but thats not saying much. Hope this is not a trend.
post #34 of 158
I have a brief review of The Space Children with thumbnails here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1197724/review-older-films-here-1979-and-earlier/750#post_22202128

-Bill
post #35 of 158
I'm as happy anyone too see titles released in HiDef.
I was as happy as anyone that "The Buccaneer" was released in HD.
However...
I said B4 any HDM was released, not "everything" should be release just too have a digital disc of it.
"The Buccaneer" is such a title.
Remember seeing this at a matinée in the sixties. Always though Yul did a good job & Charlie was overblown (yet maybe appropriate).
The source is a MESS! Black spots, tears across the entire frame, white scratches looking like a snow storm & damage on critical areas of the frame (like on the face of the female lead in her 1st close-up).

Any reviewer giving this more than a 3 for PQ should be admonished. I'd give it a 2 1/2 video rating.
The fog (smoke) in the opening scene is atrocious, any solid colors (like walls & costumes) go schizo.
Faces go way waxy in some scenes.

I'd mostly blame the source for all the damage; butt the transfer's complete failure too handle smoke in a smoky movie in unacceptable.

This fave from my childhood is going back at my earliest convenience.
post #36 of 158
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Back from vacation, got some catching up to do.

First up, Bound:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/dvdreviews44/bound_blu-ray.htm

I really like HD comparison images like in this link. The Olive caps gets a plus for more grain and hence more detail but a minus for my dislike of brightening the image which flattens it, not to mention for a 'disturbing' film it is inappropriate.

Firstborn:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/firstborn_blu-ray.htm

Ugh! Talking about bright, it's almost blasting. Where the film grain go? Guess they cannot all be winners.

Force of Evil:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview2/forceofevil.htm

Ahh film grain, caps look promising. Never seen this.

Body and Soul
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews5/bodyandsoul.htm

Nice caps, the Pal version caps looks surprisingly good as well.
post #37 of 158
I just rippED Olive a new one...
now I HAVE too buy "Bound"! tongue.gif
post #38 of 158
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Back from vacation, got some catching up to do.
First up, Bound:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/dvdreviews44/bound_blu-ray.htm
I really like HD comparison images like in this link. The Olive caps gets a plus for more grain and hence more detail but a minus for my dislike of brightening the image which flattens it, not to mention for a 'disturbing' film it is inappropriate.
Firstborn:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/firstborn_blu-ray.htm
Ugh! Talking about bright, it's almost blasting. Where the film grain go? Guess they cannot all be winners.
Force of Evil:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview2/forceofevil.htm
Ahh film grain, caps look promising. Never seen this.
Body and Soul
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews5/bodyandsoul.htm
Nice caps, the Pal version caps looks surprisingly good as well.

Do you ever actually watch any movies? Every single one of your posts in this thread just reviews screen caps, except when you are arguing about screen caps.
post #39 of 158
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Do you ever actually watch any movies? Every single one of your posts in this thread just reviews screen caps, except when you are arguing about screen caps.

By George you've go it.
post #40 of 158
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Thanks for the strong support guys and rest assured I will be continuing in this way you love so much, hopefully again tomorrow. I am like the energizer bunny, I never stop.
post #41 of 158
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Thanks for the strong support guys and rest assured I will be continuing in this way you love so much, hopefully again tomorrow. I am like the energizer bunny, I never stop.

Yes, we'd expect nothing less. The nice thing about boards such as these is that eventually everyone catches on. It would seem several folks already have, and that's a good thing. smile.gif
post #42 of 158
FIRST BORN doesn't look very good, sadly. It's an HD master derived from the same old print that's been running on cable for years (decades?) -- some scenes have detail, others look barely better than an upscaled DVD. Since there's never been a DVD release of any kind for it, and I like the movie, I'm still happy to have it, but truthfully, it's tough to recommend to anyone just for the quality of its visual appearance.
post #43 of 158
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Fire with Fire (starring the super hot Virginia Madsen):

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fire-with-Fire-Blu-ray/44571/#Review

A lot of blue sky caps and they look more like filled with compression blocks then with film grain. Suspect it might be from the master then Olive encoding.
post #44 of 158
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Fire with Fire (starring the super hot Virginia Madsen):
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fire-with-Fire-Blu-ray/44571/#Review
A lot of blue sky caps and they look more like filled with compression blocks then with film grain. Suspect it might be from the master then Olive encoding.
What 1080P master would have more compression block artifacts then natural grain?
Are masters bit starved??
Or, only only transfers???
post #45 of 158
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In the Jerry Lewis thread somebody was wailing 'Olive have NOTHING to do with the transfers' even though I did not write one way or the other before hand. Anyway according to this Olive sometimes do their own scans:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9202

Interestingly the interviewer has reviewed Olive BDs and written quite a few times too grainy lines and yet never mentions this 'modern viewers' issue to the guy. I would have taken it as a compliment myself.
post #46 of 158
ClassicFlix has news: OLIVE: Complete List of Republic Titles

This is a list of over 100 films confirmed to be coming: "Most, but not all will get Blu-Ray releases".

I see much of interest, in particular:
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Of special note is The Quiet Man (1952) which will get the restoration attention that it deserves having been scanned off of the original studio negative. Even better, coming straight from Mr. Tarzi himself, they want to "get it right."

My ancient DVD of The Quiet Man is barely VHS quality.

Beware, My Lovely (1952) with Robert Ryan and Ida Lupino has been on my
want list for a long time. It's not been available on disc at all.

The complete list:

Ambush at Cimarron Pass (1958)
The Americano (1955)
Angel and the Badman (1947)
Arch of Triumph (1948)
Armored Attack (1943) A.K.A. The North Star
The Atomic Kid (1954)
The Bells of St. Mary (1945)
Beware, My Lovely (1952)
Blood on the Sun (1945)
Blowing Wild (1953)
Bullfighter and the Lady (1951)
Caught (1949)
Champion (1949)
China Gate (1957)
City That Never Sleeps (1953)
Cloak and Dagger (1946)
Copacabana (1947)
The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell (1955)
Crashout (1955)
Cry Danger (1951)
Cry Vengeance (1954)
Dakota (1945)
Dark Command (1940)
The Devil and Miss Jones (1941)
Diary of a Chambermaid (1946)
Distant Drums (1951)
The Enforcer (1951)
Father Goose (1964)
Fighter Attack (1953)
The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)
The Fighting Seabees (1944)
Fire Maidens of Outer Space (1956)
Flame of Barbary Coast (1945)
Flat Top (1952)
Flying Tigers (1942)
Frontier Horizon (1939) A.K.A. New Frontier
Good Sam (1948)
The Grass is Greener (1960)
Guest Wife (1945)
Hell's Half Acre (1954)
High School Confidential (1958)
Home of the Brave (1949)
Hoodlum Empire (1952)
I've Always Loved You (1946)
In Old California (1942)
Indiscreet (1958)
It's in the Bag! (1945)
Johnny Come Lately (1943)
King of the Pecos (1936)
Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (1950)
Lady For a Night (1942)
Lady From Louisiana (1941)
A Lady Takes a Chance (1943)
The Last Command (1955)
The Lawless Nineties (1936)
The Lonely Trail (1936)
Long Day's Journey Into Night (1962)
The Lost Moment (1947)
Love Happy (1949)
Magic Town (1947)
Magnificent Doll (1946)
A Man Alone (1955)
A Man Betrayed (1941) A.K.A. Wheel of Fortune
Marjorie Morningstar (1958)
The Men (1950)
The Miracle of the Bells (1948)
Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid (1948)
The New Frontier (1935)
One of Our Aircraft is Missing (1942)
One Touch of Venus (1948)
Only the Valiant (1951)
Operation Petticoat (1959)
Oregon Trail (1936)
The Other Love (1947)
Outrage (1950)
Pals of the Saddle (1938)
Penny Serenade (1941)
Plunder Road (1957)
The Quiet Man (1952)
Ramrod (1947)
The Red Menace (1949)
The Red Pony (1949)
Retreat, Hell! (1952)
Ruthless (1948)
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949)
Santa Fe Stampede (1938)
Shack Out on 101 (1955)
She Devil (1957)
Showdown at Boothill (1958)
Sleep My Love (1948)
So This is New York (1948)
South of St. Louis (1949)
Stranger on the Prowl (1952)
Strangers in the Night (1944)
The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
That Touch of Mink (1962)
That's My Man (1947)
Three Faces West (1940)
Try and Get Me (1950) A.K.A. The Sound of Fury
Wake of the Red Witch (1948)
War of the Wildcats (1943) A.K.A. In Old Oklahoma
Westward Ho (1935)
Wyoming Outlaw (1939)
Young at Heart (1954)

And a bunch of Betty Boop cartoons.

-Bill
post #47 of 158
Thread Starter 
Those that deserve new scans are:

The Grass is Greener
Long Day's Journey Into Night
Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid
One of Our Aircraft is Missing
Operation Petticoat
Betty Boop cartoons
And of course, Fire Maidens of Outer Space
post #48 of 158
The ClassicFlix list is actually incomplete and is missing a lot of post-1960 titles. Here's the rest of them, courtesy Scott Peck at HTF:

The Bamboo Saucer (1968)
Bang! Bang! You're Dead! (1966)
Breakthrough (1979)
Cauldron of Blood (1970)
Cujo (1983)
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1965)
The Girl Who Knew Too Much (1969)
Hangar 18 (1980)
Highlander II (1991) -- both versions
Ironweed (1987)
Irreconcilable Differences (1984)
Julius Caesar (1970, with Charlton Heston)
The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams (1974)
Live Nude Girls (1995)
The Magic Christian (1969)
The Monster Squad (1987)
Night of the Demons 2 (1994)
Night of the Scarecrow (1995)
The Pawnbroker (1964)
Reuben, Reuben (1983)
The Running Man (1987)
Shark! (1969)
Tam Lin (1970)
That Cold Day in the Park (1969)
Ticks (1993)
Trust (1990)
Witchboard 2 (1993)
post #49 of 158
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Cujo and Running Man had BDs released by Lionsgate so I guess they own the rights.
post #50 of 158
Paramount has the rights, via their ownership of the Republic Pictures catalog. They licensed most of those titles to Lionsgate, but the deal expired last year and Olive stepped into the breach. Lionsgate's Republic titles (including The Running Man and Cujo) went OOP en masse near the end of 2011.
post #51 of 158
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Originally Posted by Dan Average View Post

Paramount has the rights, via their ownership of the Republic Pictures catalog. They licensed most of those titles to Lionsgate, but the deal expired last year and Olive stepped into the breach. Lionsgate's Republic titles (including The Running Man and Cujo) went OOP en masse near the end of 2011.

Hope that means Running Man will be re-released in the future with a new scan. So Olive bought the Republic Pictures catalog from Paramount or just licensed it?
post #52 of 158
Too bad there doesn't appear to be any Roy Rogers and there are none of the Republic serials. mad.gif
post #53 of 158
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Hope that means Running Man will be re-released in the future with a new scan. So Olive bought the Republic Pictures catalog from Paramount or just licensed it?

They licensed it. For some reason Paramount prefers to let others handle the Republic titles, except a small handful they've kept for themselves (most notably It's a Wonderful Life). Paramount doesn't even dig particularly deep into their own back catalog, so I'm grateful they've let Olive rummage through the Republic library instead. Better them than Lionsgate...
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Too bad there doesn't appear to be any Roy Rogers and there are none of the Republic serials. mad.gif

Rogers' films aren't part of the Republic library, they're controlled by his estate. (Same situation with Gene Autry.) I agree they should do some serials, though a lot of Republic serials may be off-limits to Olive due to character licensing issues.
post #54 of 158
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Paramount has the rights, via their ownership of the Republic Pictures catalog. They licensed most of those titles to Lionsgate, but the deal expired last year and Olive stepped into the breach. Lionsgate's Republic titles (including The Running Man and Cujo) went OOP en masse near the end of 2011.

Olive's BD's are almost completely devoid of extras and I'm going to wager any re-issues they of the Republic/Lionsgate BD's won't have supplements on them (especially if Lionsgate produced them). Running Man had a pair of really good commentaries; Monster Squad, Highlander 2 and Cujo also had documentary materials that were excellent. If you're interested in those, I'd pick them up before the secondary market drives up the pricing on the OOP titles. I could easily see Olive's re-issues being more expensive and having less materials on them anyway, so it's worth it if you care about any of those specific releases.
Edited by DM2006RI - 7/29/12 at 8:24am
post #55 of 158
Any pre-1960s film on BD is worth it. Just an old guy ranting.
post #56 of 158
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One from my picks list is being released, Long Day's Journey Into Night. That was fast, guess it was already done or the deal was made a while ago.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9252

Also 'Twilight's Last Gleaming', about time some Burt Lancaster films got on BD.
post #57 of 158
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First caps of Captain Carey:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/captain_carey_usa_blu-ray.htm

Seems the caps of the latest Olive BDs are rather on the flat side. Over brightned maybe?
post #58 of 158
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Beaver disgorged three day:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/thinner_blu-ray.htm
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/my_son_john_blu-ray.htm
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/man_on_a_swing_blu-ray.htm

At least the caps dont look so washed out in those, varying degrees of processing. Wish Man on a Swing had better looking caps.
post #59 of 158
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Beaver disgorged three day:
Look, everybody knows that there's something seriously wrong with the way Gary Tooze does caps. Well, everybody but you apparently.
post #60 of 158
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Originally Posted by Steen DK View Post

Look, everybody knows that there's something seriously wrong with the way Gary Tooze does caps. Well, everybody but you apparently.

Exactly.
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