Originally Posted by Square88
....but failed to give me any information on what you would call a more "satisfactory" speaker.
That would depend on you. Why do you think you need to add an amp into your system?
Are you normally this much of an ass or did you have be taught?
My intention was never to offend you. Sorry if I did.
Now maybe you missed the part where I said I am not made of money.
I caught it well and fine, which is why I think it's 100% RIDICULOUS to be looking to add more electronics to your system. I guess I just don't comprehend the concept of people who don't have money, wanting to blow money.
Yea Polk audio might not be the most amazing brand but it sure sounds better then the TV speakers I was using and all my budget can afford right now.
If it's satisfactory, then live with it. Why would you blow $250 on essentially redundant electronics???
With how you responded to my question you’re clearly made of money.
No, I just think that you're better off investing that $250 into actual improvements in sound quality, or not spending it. In fact at no point did i suggest you even needed to "spend more" to get better sound.
So how about this…. Pick out a set of speakers with "stronger dynamics", and that are "more balanced tonality" and send them my way.
Let me reword that part. "What are you expecting to improve with an amplifier"? Now you answer that.
The answer is either dynamics, where the speakers, not the 135 watt amp, are the limiting factor, or it is not dynamics, where any different amp should not make a meaningful difference, unless the onkyo is a poorly designed electronic (i don't know much about onkyo gear, never really messed with it). The only other explanation would be that you just want something to put on the tv stand to make yourself feel just like other people, but then why would you ask here? You could just pick whatever has the nicest aesthetics.
It seems to me that you're a fruitless journey with this thread, so I was trying to help you be smart with your hard earned money. Instead you twisted one, offhand (admittedly unecessary) comment into hurt feelings.
I would clearly benefit from such an upgrade. Just think, you would be saving me from the 90db/8ohm hell you seem to think I’m in.
Huh? I clearly stated that 90db/8ohm is a positive - that such speakers do NOT require external amplification. In fact there are very few speakers out there that "need" external amplification, whether they're $200 or $6000, and they're normally speakers people would be better off not bothering with anyways, as power compression is no better than clipping amplifiers.
I asked a question I had on my set up and you responded with calling what I have garbage.
Sorry if I used a strong word, but actually, all I said was that whatever you're hearing is what you should expect from those speakers. If to you it's satisfactory, don't spend another dime. If it's unsatisfactory, don't spend a dime on an amplifier, spend it on more satisfactory speakers.
I guess playing the class warfare card makes you feel better about yourself.
Um... what? Are you implying that there is simply no possibility for there to be better options for loudspeakers, if the OP took his $250 amp budget, and sold his stereo mains and center? There is no "class warfare card" being pulled. If the OP is satisfied with what he has, then he has no need for an amplifier or to spend another dime.
I also find it interesting that you use the spec sheet to come up with 90db/8ohm speakers don't need an amp.
If we're going to get technical, 90db/2.83v/m 3 ohm speakers don't need an amp either. I've got some 87db 4 ohm speakers in a huge room, that sound the same at listenable levels with a 100 watt amp and a 500 watt amp.
I am not going to agree or disagree here, but the spec sheet for another very popular polk speaker claims a 89db/8ohm rating and almost every person who owns or recommends the particular speakers say you need at least 200 watts to drive them properly.
Why, because you can an extra... 2db of headroom over a 135 watt amplifier? 2db of headroom is the difference between driving properly or not? Is OP's amp shutting down trying to drive these speakers: