Absolutely Awful - Page 4

It's no more difficult. It's just unfamiliar.

The new site is really slow.

It is still slow. When I hit the bookmark for my subscriptions, it's about 2-3 seconds before the server responds. Once it does, the page loads very quickly. Bandwidth clearly isn't a problem, but preparing the page is.

I don't buy the caching explanation. I've been using the site since conversion, and it's still slow as molasses. There's terrible lag in scrolling, and even worse lag in typing messages (like this one). I find that if I want to type a long message, I have to write it in Microsoft Word and then copy/paste it to the forum. That's an unacceptable inconvenience.

I have the same issues at HTF. This platform is very awkward to use.

I use IE8 at home, but am stuck with IE7 on my work computer (don't have permission to upgrade). Same issues on both.

I experience literally zero lag when typing or scrolling, and that's on an older Athlon processor. The text input box is as quick as Notepad. Literally zero lag.

What browser are you using? There's something weird going on with your setup if you're experiencing that type of lag.

I'll be interested to see if they are willing to post pre-change and post-change usage stats in a few months cause it is clearly down.

The caching explanation doesn't make sense I still have lag when scrolling through the forums and I visit here multiple times a day.

Anything unfamiliar IS more difficult! That's OK though. We're all practicing posting negative comments in this thread. We'll either be up-to-speed or gone. Either way, the problem will solve itself.

This is still my experience, having visited daily since the changeover. Though I have no typing lag. I would acknowledge the lag in scrolling or links to other in-site pages has improved only slightly, but anything other than immediate response is unacceptable.

I'm sure my older workstation has much to do with this (Mac G4, OSX 4.11, Firefox 3.6, Safari 4.1, DSL), but I can't afford HW/SW upgrades just to read AVS.

I don't mind ads; I can ignore them. I don't mind figuring out how to work new apps; often enjoyable for me. I don't have any aesthetic preferences; the skin is irrelevant to me.

But fast response and immediate readability are of utmost importance. I think this would hold true of any visitor, regardless of their online prowess. If general bloatware is impeding the basic function of quick recognition, visitors will turn away; online research and monitoring bear this out.

I've found life goes on after my permanent exit from HTF and Audiogon, where I once was a daily visitor.

I'm sure I won't be missed; I don't have any spending money. And that's what drives a refresh-for-revenue, or any tech "advance" for that matter. Think up a "need", rush it to market, sell it aggressively, reconcile complaints/malfunction later.

Not to say you should be forced to do this, but can I ask a question? Can you get more memory for your work computer?
Memory is dirt cheap right now and really helps IE7 performance as well. That may help a lot.

Can you disable a proxy server to get to the web, that sometimes may be adding lag.

Can you use Google Chrome as an alternative to upgrading IE?

Both this site and HTF using Win 7 and Google Chrome and a last years laptop are actually now lighting fast to me without any issues for scrolling or posting at all. Even on a lousy coffee show wifi connection that's barely 1,5 Mbps.

Can you disable ads or scripts? (fastest to me is using Google Chrome with Ad Block Plus and Ghostery for limiting scripts when I need to on a slow wifi connection)

Sadly, after many years on this site, it has become more of a burden than an enjoyment to continue to view and exchange information with so many wonderful people. While I probably won't delete my ID (yet), I do know that I will not be checking in daily as I have for so long. I can't say enough words of thanks to those of you that have hosted and posted so much knowledge and advice, with some interesting side bars tossed in .

For those that say it's just a format change, I respect your opinion but understand that I can't disagree with you more. I've lived this argument many times before and just because something may be similar, or "I just don't like change", doesn't make the grade that this new format, to me, is akward and limited in functionalaity. The handful of differing forums I find useful and visit daily seem to all use the same engine, and it ain't this "new and improved" mess. I don't believe in coincidence so you make the call

Anyway, thanks again to all and hope to meet up again!

On the bright side....tapatalk works.

Hmmmmmm its quite easy for me to read mate.. Is is possible for you to take a SCREENSHOT and let us see what the text looks like on your end?

Man, scrolling through the new pages is more than just tedious, it is painstakingly tedious. Except for long posts, all the others (short ones) have way too much bloated space, Additionally, the right side ad section takes up way to much space. I would normally quickly scroll through a new thread of interest, but this is killing me, and there is no way that I am going to waste my time doing the same on here now.

Who in the world needs those stupid thread suggestions along the right side ad section?! get rid of them, string the ads down along the right side, in a more narrow margin so as to get rid of a lot of the bloat, and speed up scrolling tremendously. Charge sponsors by their height placement along the right side, if they are sensitive to that. As things stand the top right may be the only ads anyone even gets close to looking at, if thy are like me, as I am fed up with the speed of the threads, and am now just looking at the first and last ones, which I never used to do.

Why doesn't PM'ing have the same preview function as normal posting. It really bugs me having to open and close a window constantly to edit a PM.

Drop-down lists are are popping open even when I just get near them, but not over them, and impede adjacent ones (really annoying).

Great, now I'm getting email notices of my own replies to PM's. How in the world do you stop that?!

Just figured out that there is no way to edit Subscriptions to show them according to date last used, which is far more practical than many of the other preferences, and is typically a default for other forums.

Turn off Adobe Flash and then try the site. I hate the new site but Flash is evil. I have Flash turned off on my laptop and it the site is really fast to scroll. You don't need flash.

Actually I uninstalled Flash to be correct.

I don't think that it is only that is messing things up, but also the way they have sized their pages. I just noticed that each scroll click of my mouse scrolls only about half the distance as it does on virtually any other web page or document. How does one work around that without affecting everything else besides this stupid site? I'm on Firefox, and don't plan on switching browsers.

Why don't you dump flash for a day and see how things work? You can always reinstall it.

Ha, ha, they deleted my post. Wonder how points it takes to have my membership revoked (big brother is everywhere, lol)?

I re-enbled firefox 'flashblock', and it helped a little, but the scrolling is still a big separate issue. Large 'post' windows, without a scrolling feature, are also unappreciated, as they are the only ones who use it. You actually have to scroll down to click 'preview' or 'submit'. Pure genius.

Install noscript. It will block all of the extra advertising scripts running in the background that cause the slow loading. Then just use adblock to get rid of the ads on the right and you should have something approaching useable. As a bonus, potential advertisers may be more reluctant to pay huddler for ads if a large number of users are actively blocking them. Maybe then we can end this failed experiment.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not sure about noscript right now as it appears to require constant approval of all the sites I visit, and this is the only one that is really a problem right now. But I will consider it. I did go ahead and install adblock (the new plus version), which has apparently done exactly what you stated, so all good there. Thanks again.

Change is sometimes good...and sometimes not so much...

People do not generally like change until they get used to it. That said...I so far do not like the change. I do not find it as user friendly as the last version.

Hi,

1) The color blind person who previously posted has a valid point.

2) With IE I have increased the zoom size to 150% in addition to the 120 DPI overall setting for Vista. W7 has different methods, I soon will do similar things.

This has allowed my newly cataract free eyes to view AVS without glasses. Scrolling down is not nice but I am willing to pay that price. I am typing this in my word processor which I have set the text size even larger.

3) Does firefox has similar features?

SHF

I gave this some time to see if it was just the "change" that was bothering me. However, you can now count me in as one of those folks who do not care for the new look or function.

the search ability is definitely worse now...I used to always do an 'Advanced Search' and type in my user name to view any threads of mine that were updated since my last visit...but now when I do the search it shows me posts/threads from over a year ago on top instead of the newest updated threads

Hi:

Firefox does have some similar type capabilities as IE, but much more basic. I had considered that at first, but it would end up affecting everything else until I reset it, so that option was out.

For whatever reason my PM window is different now. The PM message box is wider, like it should be, and I no longer need to scroll down to click on preview/submit. Additionally, the 'Please Wait' pop-up did not appear during 'preview' the last time I used it, but does still appear when submitting the PM, etc. Small changes, hmmmmmmmm? Oh, and it does also still appear when previewing regular posts, lol. The regular post message window is now also wider, but it is also still very deep, and you still need to scroll.