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post #1 of 31
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is there any way to set a preference for the type of date/time stamp used on individual forum posts when viewing a thread? i HATE when forums use the type of stamp that this new avs format is using/defaulting to. the "plain english" used on posts made within the last month (eg. "1 day 11 hours ago" or "3 weeks 4 days ago") makes for unnecessary mental math and calendar checking, and still doesn't leave you with a specific time. and the lack of any indication of time on posts made longer than a few days ago is completely illogical. when there's no downside to being as specific as possible, why would you not be? am i the only one who thinks a plain old traditional date/time stamp is by far the best option?

if there's not a user preference that can be changed for this, please consider this a plea for a site-wide change. if you agree with me on this, chime in here so the admins can see that i'm not alone.

EDIT: i just found that if you mouse-over the stamp, it will give you the actual date and time of the post. while this is better than nothing, i'd still much prefer to just see that from the get go.
post #2 of 31

There's no preference, but the standard non-relative format does show on mouseover, thereby eliminating any math, at least.  

 

Edit: I see you just found that, yourself.  smile.gif

post #3 of 31
+1 to the original post

I noticed that also, and I agree that date/time is the way to go.
post #4 of 31
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Originally Posted by SJHuddler View Post

There's no preference, but the standard non-relative format does show on mouseover, thereby eliminating any math, at least.  

Edit: I see you just found that, yourself.  smile.gif

I'm one of those that HATES "mouseover" things that pop up all over te place, covering up what I'm really trying to see/read, if I inadvertantly move the mouse as I'm reading. This is not progress, this is simply "let's do what we've seen others do", no matter how obnoxious and distracting it is.

I guess the next question becomes "Is there a way to turn off all the obnoxious distracting "mouseover" popups? mad.gif
post #5 of 31
This is really my biggest gripe with the new look. I can deal with the other nonsense but this seems silly mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
post #6 of 31
I agree. Mouseovers don't always work too. I've seen other sites that use that, and sometimes hovering the mouse over the text does nothing. Maybe it's dependent on add-ons or java or something.

I vote for a preference to set it one way or the other.
post #7 of 31
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Originally Posted by absolootbs View Post

...is there any way to set a preference for the type of date/time stamp used on individual forum posts when viewing a thread? i HATE when forums use the type of stamp that this new avs format is using/defaulting to. the "plain english" used on posts made within the last month (eg. "1 day 11 hours ago" or "3 weeks 4 days ago") makes for unnecessary mental math and calendar checking, and still doesn't leave you with a specific time. and the lack of any indication of time on posts made longer than a few days ago is completely illogical. when there's no downside to being as specific as possible, why would you not be? am i the only one who thinks a plain old traditional date/time stamp is by far the best option?

if there's not a user preference that can be changed for this, please consider this a plea for a site-wide change. if you agree with me on this, chime in here so the admins can see that i'm not alone...

Mouseovers don't appear on printouts. And, the lack of VIEW SINGLE POST is going to add much more work to printing out individual posts of great tips, faq indexes, devices settings, etc... frown.gif
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by SJHuddler View Post

There's no preference, but the standard non-relative format does show on mouseover, thereby eliminating any math, at least...
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© 2012 AVS is powered by Huddler Tech

Any relationship?
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by ClearToLand View Post

Any relationship?

It should. It even says 'Huddler Team' under his avatar. wink.gif

Nice to see the guys who did the transition or at least work with this new interface are here to help us out. Thanks!
post #10 of 31
Yes, a big shout out to the Huddler team for helping to make this transition much easier.
post #11 of 31
I feel that showing simply the date and time (in 24 hr format) is best.

Mouseovers are of little value to me.

I can understand that other people may have different preferences.

Allowing members to set their own preferences would be very desirable.
post #12 of 31
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Originally Posted by absolootbs View Post

EDIT: i just found that if you mouse-over the stamp, it will give you the actual date and time of the post. while this is better than nothing, i'd still much prefer to just see that from the get go.

Agreed. The day and time is a lot more useful than saying three weeks ago.

This is a science forum at it's heart after all. Some nerd core rage is to be expected. :-)
post #13 of 31
Please get rid of the gawd-awful "17 hours 38 minutes ago" nonsense. I just want to be able to see the actual date without having to perform gyrations so I can pick up reading where I left off. Now I understand why no one goes to HTF anymore.
post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

.... Now I understand why no one goes to HTF anymore.

When I go to HTF, it shows ddd/mm/yy hh:mm/am-pm .
post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by R Johnson View Post


When I go to HTF, it shows ddd/mm/yy hh:mm/am-pm .


If you're not logged in, you'll see the hard date/timestamp instead of the relative, since there's no way to judge the relative time on cached pages.

post #16 of 31
Ditto this request. Why do we have to mouse over or figure out the date ourselves? Please give us the date of the post not this nonsense. I stopped visiting HTF two years ago because of this Huddler BS. I hope AVS survives. Sigh...
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by SJHuddler View Post


If you're not logged in, you'll see the hard date/timestamp instead of the relative, since there's no way to judge the relative time on cached pages.

I've just been a guest over at HTF, so that's why I see the hard date/time stamp. Interesting.

Well, the system clearly can already display hard or relative time/date. It would make many members very happy if WE could choose which way time is displayed.

Thanks,
Ron.
post #18 of 31
It's not just the new look to the page layout people are ticked off at, it's all the underneath huddler bits that have people genuinely frustrated.

While the timestamps don't make a big difference to me, I can see where some users are coming from. Not to mention for users browsing on touch screen devices, mouseover functions are next to impossible to use correctly. But portable device support is being worked on, right huddles? wink.gif
post #19 of 31

Right.  wink.gif

Just FYI, making requests to change features and core functionality isn't what I do - I'm here specifically to report bugs and help with fixes to things that are not working as intended.  Which isn't to say that no one is listening, just that I'm not the resource to tap for these things.  Most of that will go through the site admins.  I'm more than happy to answer questions about how things work, though.
 

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post


It should. It even says 'Huddler Team' under his avatar. wink.gif
Nice to see the guys who did the transition or at least work with this new interface are here to help us out. Thanks!


Thanks.  smile.gif  But in the immortal words of Arya Stark, "I'm a girl."

post #20 of 31
I have just noticed that posts older than 1 month will show the absolute date.

So we know the site is capable of this.
post #21 of 31
Last night I verified that if you are not logged in to AVS, you get specific date and time, not relative date and time.
post #22 of 31
I don't like the lack of absolute dates as well. Plus, I prefer to see the use of the "Today xxx," "Yesterday xxx," and then pure absolute dates if it's older than yesterday. For example,
  • Today 10:19 AM
  • Yesterday 01:38 PM
  • 06-06-2012 06:01 PM
post #23 of 31
Yes, absolute times please.

Relative times compounds the problem of finding where you were when returning to the forum, which is thwarted by only threads that have been viewed not being in bold.
post #24 of 31
No fear, it is something we are looking to update!

Side Note...Roll outs of updates, fixes, improvements, etc, happen each Tuesday every two weeks. (Unless it is a major thing like we had with the attachments and the tabs and we get that fixed the same day.) Now you may not see some of them as they could be back end items or what have you. But every two weeks, starting this coming Tuesday, is when things happen.

I say this for why it may not seem like anything is being done to address things for the members. It is. Notes have been taken, talks have happened, and coding is on going. Why we may not be able to do every request, we are been looking at each one and adding them up and prioritizing them. (We do not have unlimited programmers and time after all.) Also some changes are platform wide changes. (Multi sites) Thus we need to be careful we do not break something else and also anther site may not need or want what we do.

Until we had a flood of people in when we opened, you never know what you will get response wise. (We knew we would get some bad ones, always do.) We invited over 300 members into the sandbox and did a lot with them before we went live. (over a month of time.) So, well, we will get their. I am even will to bet some of you were invited but never came for one reason or another. And that's OK.

So, well, thanks for the feedback, good or bad.
post #25 of 31
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Originally Posted by chirpie View Post

Agreed. The day and time is a lot more useful than saying three weeks ago.

This is a science forum at it's heart after all. Some nerd core rage is to be expected. :-)

I was just catching up reading this thread to see if I missed anything and I had to admit this had me laugh out loud and spew coffee all over the place. biggrin.gif

As a long time member here with zillions of posts I care about this community and I feel the pain involved in the change as well, but I honestly expected things to be worse.

I'm just impressed at all the good feedback everybody is giving to David and the Huddler team and I'm already seeing improvements. I hope that continues but I'm sure it would.
post #26 of 31
Well some feedback is getting results.....
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Originally Posted by David Bott View Post

Thanks Guys...
Ok, Some changes have just been made. Go find them. wink.gif


Goodie!

This is now an option in preferences!. cool.gif


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Show absolute timestamps in post headers

This preference allows you to always show the absolute timestamp of posts and NOT the relative version (e.g. "15 minutes ago")

I'm kinda getting used to the relative dates, but I know that was requested by many.
post #27 of 31

The option to swap timestamp types is in your profile:

 

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..just so people know where to look.  smile.gif

post #28 of 31

Yea!  It works.  Thanks.

 

Laters,

Jeff

post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

Well some feedback is getting results.....
Goodie!
This is now an option in preferences!. cool.gif
Quote:
Show absolute timestamps in post headers
This preference allows you to always show the absolute timestamp of posts and NOT the relative version (e.g. "15 minutes ago")
I'm kinda getting used to the relative dates, but I know that was requested by many.

I think they call that "the Stockholm syndrome" . . .
post #30 of 31
I appreciate this option....which should have been the default...

A new request:
Use "Yesterday" or "Today" for the date when applicable.
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