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post #61 of 165
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Originally Posted by D_B_0673 View Post

This has worked for me, until a global fix is found
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14986

 

 

Thanks D B

 

This worked for me and hopefully it will continue to work and not be replaced by something else. It's nice to finally click the back button while on AVS and actually be taken to the previous page. What a PITA for those who come here and are affected by this.

 

Windows 7 & IE9

post #62 of 165
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Originally Posted by smithfarmer View Post


Thanks D B

This worked for me and hopefully it will continue to work and not be replaced by something else. It's nice to finally click the back button while on AVS and actually be taken to the previous page. What a PITA for those who come here and are affected by this.

Windows 7 & IE9

Glad it worked for you, still working for me also, keeping fingers crossed
post #63 of 165
Thread Starter 
This seems to work for me too - thanks!

I did try the other forums suggested earlier in this thread, and I had the same problem there too, although it only took about 6-8 clicks on average rather than 15.
post #64 of 165
How about those that don't use IE?

Can this be something related to Java/Javascript/JRE??
post #65 of 165
I switched AVS from IE over to Firefox and the back button problem is gone.
post #66 of 165
Well I just updated Opera to V12 and the problem is gone. I previously update JRE from V6 to V7 before the forums switch, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
Edited by videobruce - 6/19/12 at 8:44pm
post #67 of 165
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Well I just updated Opera to V12 and the problem is gone. I previously update JRE frpom V6 to V& before the switch here, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it.

Actually the root problem is not gone. You only treated the sympton. The main problem is tracking cookies and you trying to block them. I can compare this to you having your check engine light come on in your car but it doesn't really affect the performance of the car. After a while you get tired of the light coming on so you take it to the garage to get it looked at. The garage for some reason can't fix the problem so they disconnect the light and tell you the problem is gone as they know that the problem doesn't really affect the performance of the car.
The patch you got probably did the same thing.

I have been experiencing the same issue when my local newspaper went to pay to play on their website last year. Just this morning I got hit with an ad link that I been getting for a while. This one is a long one:
http://view.atdmt.com/DEV/iview/370662585/direct/ol?click=http://Im.trafficmp.com/click?+=40367488411528107831=925193ad=24612
When I get hit with this one it fills up my entire browsing history with the same link so I have to delete my browsing history and close my browser and start over. This link has to different sources and you will be amazed who is responsible for one.
www.atdmt.com links you to this site http://atlassolutions.com/home and when you click on the contact button http://atlassolutions.com/contact-information you see who is resonsible MICROSOFT.
The second part of the link is related to Instant Messanger www.trafficmp.com and takes you to this place http://www.epicmarketplace.com/
It looks like this company is in trouble financially.

The google ads link is from this site www.doubleclick.net takes you to this site http://www.google.com/doubleclick/# which is no surprise that it belongs to google.

It looks like the site owners are resonsible for this as this gives them a source of money. So nobody is really going to stop this from happening. I think that my internet security is trying to not allow the link to load because it is a tracking cookie which in turn causes the odd behavior. Since the browser companies are also involved in making money from tracking peoples internet browsing they are not going to disable that feature. They basically patch the browser to cover any ill effects so the users do not know that they are being tracked. Buying a subscription doesn't stop you being tracked either it just covers up the ads so it does not aggravate some users which is just like disconnecting the check engine light or covering it over with black tape.
post #68 of 165
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The main problem is tracking cookies and you trying to block them.
Who said anything about blocking tracking cookies??
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The patch you got probably did the same thing.
Patch, what patch?? confused.gif

I don't block cookies and there was no "patch". I do empty my cache, browsing history & cookies on exit as I have for the past 10 years using Opera (the 1st browser to offer that as standard that I knew of), but I don't block anything.
post #69 of 165
I find that when the back button ceases to function that a refresh of the page makes it function normally again. Saves a little bit of my sanity.
post #70 of 165
I haven't been on enough lately to really know if back button not working affects me all the time. But it does happen and on this thread I can get back to page one with one click. But it takes 4 to get back to the main forum. I have all the Ad's turned off and nothing else open but AVS.

IE9, Windows 7, 64bit.
post #71 of 165
As of today, the back button works with one click on IE. Horray .
post #72 of 165
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Originally Posted by Georgeb View Post

As of today, the back button works with one click on IE. Horray .

It still does not work for me frown.gif (IE9 32bits, win 7 64bits). I still get the "facebook connect" problem when I try to leave this subforum and go back to the main forum (That is the only place where this is occuring for me). I have to press the back button a couple of time to get to the main forum area (and I usually end up on the previous web site I was before coming to AVS because I get frustrated and click a couple of time on the back button). Please fix this as this is making the browsing experience on this web site totally frustrating right now.
post #73 of 165
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Originally Posted by _mulder View Post

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Originally Posted by Georgeb View Post

As of today, the back button works with one click on IE. Horray .

It still does not work for me frown.gif (IE9 32bits, win 7 64bits). I still get the "facebook connect" problem when I try to leave this subforum and go back to the main forum (That is the only place where this is occuring for me). I have to press the back button a couple of time to get to the main forum area (and I usually end up on the previous web site I was before coming to AVS because I get frustrated and click a couple of time on the back button). Please fix this as this is making the browsing experience on this web site totally frustrating right now.

Have you tried clearing IE's cache?
post #74 of 165
Still doing the same thing for me, takes 3 clicks to get back to the main forum. Just noticed that the forward button don't work at all.
post #75 of 165
Well I tried everything I can with IE9 to stop this from happening. If I tweak the browser settings to work with the Huddler sites then I have issues with the rest of the internet sites on the World Wide Web. So I decided to eliminate or disable browser extensions and this resulted in no change on the Huddler sites. I then tried the nuclear option and reset IE 9 back to its factory defaults. Of course when you open up IE 9 you get MSN. So I proceeded to AVS and the problem was still there. So add ons and IE 9 browser configurations have nothing to do with this problem.

I then decided to compare the three forums that use the Huddler platform and see if I get the same issues and the answer is yes. I noticed that the google adsense links are related to the number of links that are the forum sponsers on the opening page. Also head-fi does not have a link to facebook so I do not get the pair of face book links when I use the back button.

Here are the links to the forums that use Huddler:
www.avsforum.com
www.head-fi.org
www.hometheaterforum.com

The google ads links and the facebook links happen on these to sites, avs and home theater.
On head-fi I get the google ads links and this link when I use the back button,
http://static.liftdna.com/tags/44024.html?s=head-fi_forum_btf.728890 which belongs to this ad supplier
www.liftdna.com

AVS and Home theater have connect to facbook links and Head-fi does not so on Head-fi I get the liftdna ads in place of the pair of facebook links when I try to use the back arrow button. All three forums I get the 12 to 15 google ads when I enter the sites if my browsing history is empty.

In order to see this problem you must use IE 9 32 bit edition and be a non club member. I have not tried the 64 bit version of IE 9.

Also this is not a new problem with the Huddler Platform becasue this was reported late last year on the Home theater forum:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/318104/googleads-g-doubleclick-net-page
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/316760/cant-use-back-button-in-my-browser

And the same issue over at Head-fi:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/574278/page-back-issue-with-ie9
http://www.head-fi.org/t/583926/issue-with-ads
http://www.head-fi.org/t/588424/internet-explorer-https-googleads-g-doubleclick-net-page-in-the-return-page-drop-down-menu
http://www.head-fi.org/t/607289/chrome-googleads-doubleclick-problem

All these tips in this thread do not stop the problem from occuring with IE 9. Any trick you try to apply using IE 9 just results in problems for non Huddler web sites.
post #76 of 165
Well, I'm a club member with all the Ad's off and I have to click the back button 3-4 times to get back to the main forum, if I'm reading a thread that is over one page. I've tried it on 3 different computers and its the same way. They all do have Windows 7 and IE9. Yes it does the same thing on HTF but it didn't use to do it on AVS.

I really don't remember any or many websites I do have this problem on.
post #77 of 165

Solution to the Google and Facebook Ads links when using IE 9

For those of us that use IE 9, AVS has become a major pain because of the annoying ad links when you try to use the back button. The 15 Google ad links are represented by the 12 featured sponsers and the 3 ads that use flash media. The pair of facebook links are represented by the "connect to facebook" link that is right below where you log into AVS.

The reason that this happens is Google has cirumvented IE 9's P3P Policy regarding third party tracking cookies. There is an explanation from Microsoft:
http://www.iegallery.com/en-US/tpl/FAQ
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How do they work?

The websites you visit often contain content from third parties. In order to load this content, certain information about your computer, including your IP address and the address of the webpage you’re viewing, is sent to each of the third parties. If a site is listed as a “do not call” site on a Tracking Protection List, Internet Explorer 9 will block third-party content from that site, unless you visit the site directly by clicking on a link or typing its web address. By limiting “calls” to third-party websites, Internet Explorer 9 limits the information these third-party sites can collect about you.

Another explanation from the IE gallery:
http://www.iegallery.com/en-US/trackingprotectionlists
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Google is currently circumventing the privacy preferences of Internet Explorer users. By default, IE blocks third-party cookies unless the site presents a P3P Compact Policy Statement indicating how the site will use the cookie and that the site’s use does not include tracking the user. Google’s P3P policy causes Internet Explorer to accept Google’s cookies even though the policy does not state Google’s intent.

Explanation of the facebook links from the tracking protectin lists page:
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Blocks many types of social network tracking on websites. On some websites, "Like" buttons and other social gadgets will be blocked and will not display

How to stop the problem:
1: Click "tools" in your IE 9 browser
2: Click "tracking protection" from the menu
3: Half way down the page click on "Get a tracking protection list online"
4: Click the add button for "Stop Google Tracking" from the list
5 Click the add button for "http://privacyplz.zzl.org/" from the list
6: Close the manage Add ons window
7: Click "tools" then "delete browsing history"
8: Close IE 9 browser and then reopen

I use AVS forum as my home page and does the site load incredibly fast now. The google ads and facebook links problem is gone. Also navigating the site is much faster. The "connect to facebook link" does not work anymore but I really don't care as I am not a member of facebook. Also I don't have the slow to respond and disappearing cursor when I am typing a post. The 12 featured sponser ads are blank and the 3 flash ads are gone from all pages.

I also tried the two other Huddler sites and the problem is gone there also. I didn't have any problems on any other non Huddler sites either. I have been testing this all day and so far so good.
Also I did not try any other of the add ons from the tracking lists.
post #78 of 165
Well, that actually worked or so far it has anyway. I did have to add both 4 & 5 on your list. What a strange thing to have to do even with all that Ad's turned off, and the trouble it caused just because of who AVS chose to use.
Edited by Larry J - 6/24/12 at 10:13am
post #79 of 165
It's a good thing thing I am never affected by this problem but if I do I will be mad if I have to do all that just to browse a forum.
post #80 of 165
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Originally Posted by Larry J View Post

Well, that actually worked or so far it has anyway. I did have to add both 4 & 5 on your list. What a strange thing to have to do even with all that Ad's turned off, and the trouble it caused just because of who AVS chose to use.

I was surprised that even being a club member you still had the problem. I thought somebody on the forum would have known about the tracking protection in IE 9. It would have saved me about a week of trying different browser configurations. I read that these tracking protection lists are updated every day to once a month. Hopefully we can put this issue to rest.
post #81 of 165
I was surprised also, but its the same on 4 different computers. Just like the one I'm on right now and haven't changed anything, I cannot get back to the main forum using the back button, which means I usually get mad and end up way back because of clicking so many times.

Would be nice if they fixed it. Also wish I could get the actual thread text in yellow instead of white on the black background. I see the changes people are making with FireFox and Chrome but not IE 9.
post #82 of 165
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Originally Posted by Larry J View Post

Also wish I could get the actual thread text in yellow instead of white on the black background. I see the changes people are making with FireFox and Chrome but not IE 9.

I don't think this has anything to do with the browser settings. I can change the look of the forum with IE 9 by going into internet options and at the bottom of the general tabs you can change the look by selecting colors and then checking the ignore colors in the accesability tab. This will not have any effect when you post though.

You can type your post in Microsoft Word and change the color of the words there and then copy and paste it into the editor of this forum. You have to be careful though because this forum uses to different backgrounds and by using the wrong color words this can happen if you use the black skin.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414002/epvision-phd-vrx-owners-thread/210#post_22161004

He stated that he typed up his post in Microsoft Word:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414002/epvision-phd-vrx-owners-thread/210#post_22161094

If you use yellow words in your post then those who use the default skin will have a hard time seeing the yellow words on the light background. I also think you can change the color of the words in the editor itself but I rarely use this option. The selection is next to size at the top of the editor. Here are some examples:
Blue
Yellow
Green
Black NOTICE: If you use the dark skin you can not see the word Black.
How you do this is you highlight the words you want to change colors then click the yellow A next to Size and the default color is blue so all you do is delete the word blue after the = sign and type the color you want to use. But remember those forum members that use the different skin as they might not see the words if you use a color that is not friendly to both skins.

I can not quote on how the other browsers work as I never had an interest in using them but I doubt you can change the color of the words from the browser itself.
Edited by Jed1 - 6/27/12 at 1:24pm
post #83 of 165
I'd have to go back and read what all they are changing with the other browsers, but I assume it just affected AVS. If I change the colors in IE9 it messes up the other sites.

There is something about the white text on the black that bothers my eyes, and I'm wondering why its yellow except for the actual threads. Its not so bad when there is a lot of light in the room but I still don't like it. Maybe its worse since I have full screen without the Ad's on the side but the old forum didn't bother me. I know I could do the white background but I've always really like the dark on AVS.

I do know its stopping me from reading threads as long as I use too.
post #84 of 165
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Originally Posted by Larry J View Post

I'd have to go back and read what all they are changing with the other browsers, but I assume it just affected AVS. If I change the colors in IE9 it messes up the other sites.
There is something about the white text on the black that bothers my eyes, and I'm wondering why its yellow except for the actual threads. Its not so bad when there is a lot of light in the room but I still don't like it. Maybe its worse since I have full screen without the Ad's on the side but the old forum didn't bother me. I know I could do the white background but I've always really like the dark on AVS.
I do know its stopping me from reading threads as long as I use too.

You might like an AVS-specific "retro" skin as described and shown in post #43 here?
post #85 of 165
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Originally Posted by D_B_0673 View Post

This has worked for me, until a global fix is found
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14986


Thanks, D_B_! So far, so good.

 

Edit:

 

Now, does anyone know how to ditch the sidebar?


Edited by lsarver - 6/29/12 at 4:21pm
post #86 of 165
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Originally Posted by Larry J View Post

I'd have to go back and read what all they are changing with the other browsers, but I assume it just affected AVS. If I change the colors in IE9 it messes up the other sites.
There is something about the white text on the black that bothers my eyes, and I'm wondering why its yellow except for the actual threads. Its not so bad when there is a lot of light in the room but I still don't like it. Maybe its worse since I have full screen without the Ad's on the side but the old forum didn't bother me. I know I could do the white background but I've always really like the dark on AVS.
I do know its stopping me from reading threads as long as I use too.

I use the black skin because I have floaters in my eyes and I don't see them with the black background but I have to use reading glasses to see the white print. I can see the black print on the light background with out reading glasses but I see the floaters. I can't win either way. The yellow lettering on the black back groud is easier on my eyes. I also don't use the forum very much as I generally read the posts through my email updates anymore.
post #87 of 165
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14986




I got it working with the fix above posted by D_B.. wink.gif
Edited by The_Nephilim1 - 7/3/12 at 2:02pm
post #88 of 165
There should be at least one or two blank lines between the last thing posted and the "time stamp" when you edit your post.

I am going to edit this post so you can see exactly what I mean. If you have any questions please send me a Private Message.

Thanks for your consideration smile.gif
Edited by spyboy - 7/3/12 at 2:07pm
post #89 of 165
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Originally Posted by Jed1 View Post

For those of us that use IE 9, AVS has become a major pain because of the annoying ad links when you try to use the back button. The 15 Google ad links are represented by the 12 featured sponsers and the 3 ads that use flash media. The pair of facebook links are represented by the "connect to facebook" link that is right below where you log into AVS.
The reason that this happens is Google has cirumvented IE 9's P3P Policy regarding third party tracking cookies. There is an explanation from Microsoft:
http://www.iegallery.com/en-US/tpl/FAQ
Another explanation from the IE gallery:
http://www.iegallery.com/en-US/trackingprotectionlists
Explanation of the facebook links from the tracking protectin lists page:
How to stop the problem:
1: Click "tools" in your IE 9 browser
2: Click "tracking protection" from the menu
3: Half way down the page click on "Get a tracking protection list online"
4: Click the add button for "Stop Google Tracking" from the list
5 Click the add button for "http://privacyplz.zzl.org/" from the list
6: Close the manage Add ons window
7: Click "tools" then "delete browsing history"
8: Close IE 9 browser and then reopen
I use AVS forum as my home page and does the site load incredibly fast now. The google ads and facebook links problem is gone. Also navigating the site is much faster. The "connect to facebook link" does not work anymore but I really don't care as I am not a member of facebook. Also I don't have the slow to respond and disappearing cursor when I am typing a post. The 12 featured sponser ads are blank and the 3 flash ads are gone from all pages.
I also tried the two other Huddler sites and the problem is gone there also. I didn't have any problems on any other non Huddler sites either. I have been testing this all day and so far so good.
Also I did not try any other of the add ons from the tracking lists.


Thank you very much. I too am using Windows 7 with IE 9 and that fixed the problem I was having with that Google double click (having to hit back 14 time) what ever it's called.

Fixed the "Google" problem, unfortunately, now there seems to be a "Facebook" problem!

It looks like this and in some cases I have to back click several times when trying to get out of AVS.



Does anyone know how to get rid of this? Also, for some reason, it's also messing up the "forward" button...another words, there does not seem to be a "history" in the forward button when I know very well when going "backwards" there should be pages of where I've clicked from. I have a feeling once the "Facebook" issue is solved, it will hopefully get rid of the "forward" button function.
Edited by Thebarnman - 7/23/12 at 3:32pm
post #90 of 165

New backclick problem this time with Facebook...

This is a follow up from my post about the "Google Doubleclick" issue.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414064/browser-back-button-needs-15-hits-before-executing-windows-7-64-bit/60#post_22243810


Unfortunately, now there seems to be a "Facebook" problem!

It looks like this and in some cases I have to back click several times when trying to get out or move around AVS.





Does anyone know how to get rid of this? Also, for some reason, it's also messing up the "forward" button...another words, there does not seem to be a "history" in the forward button when I know very well when going "backwards" there should be pages of where I've clicked from. I have a feeling once the "Facebook" issue is solved, it will hopefully get rid of the "forward" button function.
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